any difference between child porn and this

[onlyreal]

hi
i look to club17.com today
i see girls seems too younger(15-16)

although they are 18 are there any difference between child porn and this

i think these kind of stuff encourage people tend to child porn
i am not against distrubting photos videos of 18 years old girls having sex but wearing them as 10-15 girls is bad thing
distrubute thier photos in this way encourages child porn

please donot say men wants this we give that to them




[This message has been edited by onlyreal (edited 11-12-2001).]

[NickB.]

Originally posted by onlyreal:
hi
i look to club17.com today
i see girls seems too younger(15-16)

although they are 18 are there any difference between child porn and this

i think these kind of stuff encourage people tend to child porn
i am not against distrubting photos videos of 18 years old girls having sex but wearing them as 10-15 girls is bad thing
distrubute thier photos in this way encourages child porn please donot say men wants this we give that to them
[This message has been edited by onlyreal (edited 11-12-2001).]

Onlyreal, if you say you are only real, please have a good look at club17 and you know all models are 18 years or older!

Don't you think that if the models are younger than 18 year old we won't get busted?

Be real onlyreal!

[NickB.]

club17 is only a brandname which is used for 30 years now.

We can assure all models have the right age!
18 year or older!

[kittykat69]

As a photographer and content provider i come across girls veryday that look like they are too young - I even had an asian girl who looked 12.

As long as you have real ID then it's okay to put there pics ther .
That is what the surfers are paying to see - young looking girls.

If anyone had a problem with that then they should get in contact with you personally and find out about the ID issue.

I think postig it is a bit of a waste of time - we see sites like that all the time.

Hell I am 22 and i still get asked for ID everywhere i go !!!

[NickB.]

Now that's being onlyreal!


best

[ldinternet]

Maybe I'm fucked in the head, but the girls on the Club17.com definately don't look any younger than 18... in fact, some of them look to be in their early twenties.
Keep in mind that I'm 18 myself..... from the perspective of someone in their forties or fifties, then maybe these girls look much younger than intended.

[NickB.]

ldinternet,

You know where you are talking about!
You are being real! only real!

Nice to see these kind of posts!
thanx

[Dualcpu]

From the club17.com site:

"All persons depicted herein were over the age of 18 years at the time they were photographed or filmed."

If you still doubt they are NOT 18 years or older, then why dont you contact them and ask for their records?

Companies like Club17 cant afford to kill their own reputation.

Just my 2 cents ;-)

[NickB.]

Originally posted by Dualcpu:
From the club17.com site:

"All persons depicted herein were over the age of 18 years at the time they were photographed or filmed."

If you still doubt they are NOT 18 years or older, then why dont you contact them and ask for their records?

Companies like Club17 cant afford to kill their own reputation.

Just my 2 cents ;-)

Thank you for your contribution!
Preciate your help!

Thanx

[onlyreal]

read my post carefully i didnot say you models are not 18 i said how you get them to look like childs

how you wear them
if i were a judge i probably close this for encouraging child porn

go highschools look to 18 years old girls then come to your site and look to your girls
your ones look likes 15s(they can be 18 maybe but you try to encourage child pornography)

Originally posted by nickbaauw:

Onlyreal, if you say you are only real, please have a good look at club17 and you know all models are 18 years or older!

Don't you think that if the models are younger than 18 year old we won't get busted?

Be real onlyreal!

[onlyreal]

as i said before i donot have any prob with 18 years old girls

but look at that site

thier aim is to show them as young as possible(14-15s)

this encourages child pornography

Originally posted by kittykat69:
As a photographer and content provider i come across girls veryday that look like they are too young - I even had an asian girl who looked 12.

As long as you have real ID then it's okay to put there pics ther .
That is what the surfers are paying to see - young looking girls.

If anyone had a problem with that then they should get in contact with you personally and find out about the ID issue.

I think postig it is a bit of a waste of time - we see sites like that all the time.

Hell I am 22 and i still get asked for ID everywhere i go !!!

[NickB.]

Man stop posting this,

It doesn't makes any sense at all!
it's just the name, girls are old enough,

It doesn't encourages child pornography, becuz it isn't!

Stop posting this shit!
Have a look at all other teen" sites before you judge anything!

[B.Diker]

okay , onlyreal that is better if you stop the argument

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[Dualcpu]

Originally posted by onlyreal:
as i said before i donot have any prob with 18 years old girls

but look at that site

thier aim is to show them as young as possible(14-15s)

this encourages child pornography

This is the entire purpose of "TEEN" sites - to make the models look young. Are you saying we should shut down all sites which contain models that look younger than 18 but are actually 18? Doesnt make sence to me.

Make me understand please ;-)

[onlyreal]

i looked as this is my job (finding good teen sponsor)

but i can say i donot like your way

and wanna say i think you know what you do

but greens are always good
ethics are not important vs money

please donot write anything anymore
i donot want to decrease this companies reputation anymore

Originally posted by nickbaauw:
Man stop posting this,

It doesn't makes any sense at all!
it's just the name, girls are old enough,

It doesn't encourages child pornography, becuz it isn't!

Stop posting this shit!
Have a look at all other teen" sites before you judge anything!

[dank]

Well.........

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[dank]

I saw the site and love it!!! The girls in it look between the ages of 13-18....most of them look under the age of 18. And I guarantee you that a lot of them are not 18 yet despite the note that says they are.

But I don't care cuz I love to look at at naked girls between the agees of 13-17....and thery're having sex too and giving blow jobs.....Mna, you gotta love it!

So wether the models are 13 or 18......who fucking cares! Besides, it's like you said, this is what surfers want to see!

So what if they are breaking the laws! Laws were made to be broken! especially this one! It goes against everything that is natural.....and it goes against ideas of what most surfers view as good porn on the internet .....(because you know, this is what surfers want to see)

Not to mention the nude pics they show of these girls in classrooms and on park playgrounds....I love it! C'mon....you no it's all good!

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[AaronM]

Originally posted by Dualcpu:
If you still doubt they are NOT 18 years or older, then why dont you contact them and ask for their records?

WTF??? Try asking to see my records and I will tell you to GFY. Who in the hell do you think you are? News flash for those of you who do not know the laws of the US... ONLY the Attorney General has the right to inspect your 2257 stuff. Until this changes, and it will, if the FBI shows up at your door you can tell then to get fucked. Read about it. http://www.execpc.com/~xxxlaw/28CFR75.5.html

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[dank]

Now that is good to know!

[funkmaster]

"So wether the models are 13 or 18......who fucking cares! Besides, it's like you said, this is what surfers want to see!"

... are you trying to be sarcastic, or is this your true opinion ??

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[Dualcpu]

To: AaronM

Sir,

As far as i know Club17 is located in The Netherlands.
If i was a photographer i would certainly provide someone with some sort of proof that my models have reached the age of 18 if they ever asked. I would not want people thinking i had underaged models on my site.

P.

[Due]

I really don't think that Club17 would be able to publish their own magazine for 20+ years if their models where not of legal age. And I really doubt they would be able to run a partnership program for the past few years if they where using illegal models.
But then again that is only what I think

[Lev]

The models definitely don't look under 18, as was said before, they look they are in their early twenties. I just don't understand one thing, why do they call it "club17" if the legal age for pornography is 18?

Lev,

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[Mole]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the age of consent in the Netherlands one of the lowest?

I remember it's like 13 or something and you can legally have sex.

[Theo]

the truth is that the name club17 confuses many webmasters. I have seen posts on AWI in the past telling that girls on club17 are younger than 18. I told them to go and check the site, they came back telling i was right. They're at least 18.y.old The law implies the limit of 18y.old not because they don't look that young at this age, but because at the age of 18 you can decide alone if you want to get nude photos, you can vote and participate to the politics of your country. It doesnt matter how you look, but how you think. Think about it.

[NickB.]

on the index.page:

All persons depicted herein were over the age of 18 years at the time they were photographed or filmed !

There is no discussion about wether the models are younger than 18 years old or not, because they simply are 18 years old or older!

Dear GFY visitors, you all should know that if the models were younger we would simply be out of business.

Please understand that clubseventeen is just a brandname which is used for almost 30 years now!

Best regards,

Nick


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[Ludedude]

As far as I know, the age of consent in the Netherlands is younger than 18 BUT the age you have to be to get PAID for posing nude is 18. I don't see a well established company like Payserve taking a chance on something as stupid as using underage models.

Every single "teen" site out there gives the aura of younger girls...it's a marketing thing for sure. Whether or not this feeds upon the desires of pedophiles or not can be debated forever, but most of those guys aren't interested in teens, be it seventeen or eighteen etc. Not like those "model" sites with the 12 year olds in bikinis etc.

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[titmowse]

onlyreal,

it seems to me your are just plain conflicted about selling teen content. why don't you switch to another niche that will trouble you less?

love,


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[Thricedead]

Onlyreal,
I've got to agree with both nickbaauw and titmowse.
Guess you've never experienced effective advertising.
LOL !

luck




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