Im not even sure what the definition of 'winning it' would be......

We went in to get rid of WMDs..... as there are no WMDs, how can we 'win' anything?

WMD was on the list of reasons...and though it became the most public reason...it was far from being the primary reason...and in fact was not even close to being the primary reason. We win...if we can change the face of the middle east...it is an extention on the declared "global war" on "terrorism"/enemies of the USA.

This is your friend?
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Iran is a clear and present danger. :2 cents:

Yeah right, but that was what was used to persuade the public. They used fear yet again to wage their war, now that they've been proven wrong you guys find excuses.

You're a pathetic brainwashed fool, you spent your life obeing orders mindlessly and it shows

I do not find excuses. I posted on this board prior to the invasion...the reasons...for invading Iraq and WMD/WMD material was but one of the reasons I presented and it was certaintly not at the top of my list of reasons or even of any concern.

But yes...WMD was the primary reason presented to the public...but for anyone with understanding and insight to events...it certainly was not the primary reason for the invasion.

Being a soldier was the profession that I freely chose...and yes...as a soldier...I took an oath to obey...all legal orders...but it does not in anyway mean that I have ever been brainwashed.

How would you know if you've been brainwashed or not?
To most normal people you sound pretty brainwashed.(not trying to insult you... just stating an observation :2 cents: )

BTW...it was not President Bush that first avocated the overthrow of Saddam and the Baathist party...it was the Congress during President Clinton's term of office. In other words President Clinton could have chosen to invade with Congressional approval...just as Congress provided President Bush with Congressinal approval.

Only the weak...can be brainwashed (much the same as only weak people can be hynotized)...and I have never been weak (mentally or physically)...in fact I am quiet the opposite.

You obviously know nothing about hypnosis.

I know that I cannot be hynotized...and I know that the weak can be hynotized...and I suspect that you have zero expertise in the subject of hypnosis.

You guys always devolve these conversations into sandbox arguments, wtf?

if this happens i wont believe it

This really shows your ignorance. Hate to break this to ya but everytime you watch television, watch someone speak, drive, etc you are under a state of hypnosis. Apparently your only knowledge on the subject was derived from old Dick Van Dyke shows. You have no clue what you're talking about.

FYI, I possess a degree in psychology, have studied and practiced hypnosis extensively, and have found that lower IQ's without a doubt were more difficult to place into deeper states of hypnosis. As a matter of fact the only person that I was unable to place into any type of state was a 25 year old with downs syndrome.

Good for you. Now try learning word definitions.

weak ( P ) Pronunciation Key (wk)
adj. weak·er, weak·est
Lacking physical strength, energy, or vigor; feeble.
Likely to fail under pressure, stress, or strain; lacking resistance: a weak link in a chain.
Lacking firmness of character or strength of will.
Lacking the proper strength or amount of ingredients: weak coffee.
Lacking the ability to function normally or fully: a weak heart.
Lacking aptitude or skill: a weak student; weak in math.
Lacking or resulting from a lack of intelligence.
Lacking persuasiveness; unconvincing: a weak argument.
Lacking authority or the power to govern.
Lacking potency or intensity: weak sunlight.
Linguistics.
Of, relating to, or being those verbs in Germanic languages that form a past tense and past participle by means of a dental suffix, as start, started; have, had; bring, brought.
Of, relating to, or being the inflection of nouns or adjectives in Germanic languages with a declensional suffix that historically contained an n.
Unstressed or unaccented in pronunciation or poetic meter. Used of a word or syllable.
Designating a verse ending in which the metrical stress falls on a word or syllable that is unstressed in normal speech, such as a preposition.
Tending downward in price: a weak market for oil stocks.


intelligence quotient
n. Abbr. IQ
The ratio of tested mental age to chronological age, usually expressed as a quotient multiplied by 100

If you're getting hypnotized, you're supposedly willing since you can't hypnotize someone against their will. Now you want to get hypnotised, thus are pressured to respond positively.
What else are you gonna come up with now? :1orglaugh

Tough talk! cause they know we are not gonna do shit! thanks to the mess in Iraq! :2 cents:

Bush does not care how many people die to protect his oil. He wants the money. He does not care if he has to draft people to fight a war that he started for pride and money.

Bush does not care!

Nothing. I will repeat what I originally stated...which is a correct statement.

Don't you think your opinion on that subject is majorly biased?

Declaring yourself to be mentally strong is like declaring yourself to be the world's greatest lover.

Well it is fact that I am mentally and physically strong...as I have been put to the test many times...and in fact I am put to the test 24/7...as I live with mind numbing pain.

I'm guesstimating 8 months before we gather our guns for the first strike.

I've been put to the test many times in bed with many women, I guess that proves the fact that I'm the world's greatest lover.

Oh man, what is it this time? :(

This is called karmic payback. :1orglaugh

One question for the Bush supporters out there...
US budget deficit pushes toward a record US$427,000,000,000

What has all this money done for America?

Well for one it helped to hypnotize theking into believing Bush's bullshit. :1orglaugh

And then you will have to deal with the insurgency and American soldiers get blown to pieces on a daily basis by an invisible enemy. Yeah dude, thanks to bad leadership the US army is doing just fine in Iraq right now...
The US will be bankrupt if it creates another war. And terrorism is only growing under Bush

I am not a fan of...nor have I ever voted for President Bush. As regards the take down of Iraq...I was an advocate of taking down Iraq ever since '91 when Iraq began to abuse the cease fire agreements that they signed. Thus their is not any of "Bush's" bullshit for me to believe. He thinks as he does...I think as I do...and the twain seldom meets.

the war is neva gonna end, its gonna be like a constant gorrila war.

Fields of flowers..

Pay attention...he said from the air...and he is correct. From the air...using conventional weapons...the US can make them ask Allah why he has forsaken them.