Best Recurring Revenue!? - GoFuckYourself.com

theseeker · 11-12-2001, 09:26 PM

I've been a webmaster for 2 yrs but it's been only three months since I started to use adult revshare programs. They say the monthly revenue is going up since it's partnership and they are sharing all the recurring revenue with partners. But it is simply nothing but lie! My monthly earning's almost the same. How frustrating! So.. Alrighty there's no point beating around the bush. Which programs bring you the best recurring income? (which could be the same question with "which company has the best content and design, so that members never even think of leaving?")

Please feel free to post your own company ONLY IF you are confident enough with your site to give me 30-minute-tour.

Yes, I signed up two paysites at my expense, and found that they shouldn't be a paysite. Too many broken links, way too poor design and content. I don't understand what they are doing with all the money they are making. I hope I just picked wrong sites.

OK, guys.. please help me out!
When it comes to "Recurring", which is the best for you? (preferably celebrity site)

playa · 11-12-2001, 09:55 PM

from my experience on partnership sites i would never sign up with them unless they are a mega sponser site with 5 or more other paysites,,, but there are couple single ones that are googd,,, this is becuase you can always squeeze another rebill by giving a surfer an option to get access to all the sites prior to canceling,,,

but remember it still takes around 3 months for you sign ups to equal per sign up,, which is very important to understand,,,

check www.soulcash.com i highly reccommend them

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11-12-2001, 10:03 PM

W-to-the-izzo, shut up, I'll do it for you

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Snake Doctor · 11-12-2001, 10:05 PM

Playa's right. Its going to take 3 months of sending the same # of joins to a partnership before your $$ will be the same as with a per sign up.
Then depending on who you're promoting, after 3 months you should see a steady increase in your revenue. And you get the added bonus of having a recurring base to get you through the times when the signups just aren't with you. And those happen to everybody.
As far as hold times go, right now I'm really happy with
Oxcash
and you can't forget
Porn Mega Bucks
I'm having good conversions with some new stuff right now, but its too soon to tell how well they'll retain the members.
Hope that helped

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mailman · 11-12-2001, 10:05 PM

ALSO important is that there is no shaving cause mostlikly if it is a partnershit it will use CCBill or IBill wich is good cause then you will know your true ratios

i currently and doing celeb partnership and it honestly is making me the most $$ ever

[Labret] · 11-12-2001, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by mailman:
ALSO important is that there is no shaving cause mostlikly if it is a partnershit it will use CCBill or IBill wich is good cause then you will know your true ratios i currently and doing celeb partnership and it honestly is making me the most $$ ever

I thought giving blowjobs at the truckstop was making you the most $$ ever.

theseeker · 11-12-2001, 10:12 PM

Thanks Playa. Well, considering the charateristics of celebrity sites, no site can't have unique content. I guess I'd better start my paysite rather than being a revshare partner.

I like Gammacash's the most but they don't have celeb sites. I guess they know what they should do and what they shouldn't do.

More input would be appreciated...

theseeker · 11-12-2001, 10:21 PM

You guys are so right. I should wait at least three months (but I already waited 3 moths and 2 days..) Even worse, I already found that how lousy site I'm promoting right now.

theseeker · 11-12-2001, 10:23 PM

Should I just shut up and keep making money with them til starting my own paysite? This is not a handsome money though.

gkk · 11-12-2001, 10:37 PM

Oxcash sounds VERY interesting, but their "terms" link is broken so I won't touch them. There could be a "nasty" about webmasters in Japan, and I'd never know...

mailman · 11-12-2001, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by [Labret]:

I thought giving blowjobs at the truckstop was making you the most $$ ever.

Naw i promote your transvestite mom..

[Labret] · 11-12-2001, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mailman:

Naw i promote your transvestite mom..

Did you signup under my partner ID?

Theo · 11-13-2001, 12:17 AM

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Originally posted by theseeker:
Should I just shut up and keep making money with them til starting my own paysite? This is not a handsome money though.

keep the shut up word and act. On AWI you asked for a celeb program and i suggested you one of a friend because i have seen the member's area and i'm familiar with the work. The only thing you did was to lie and to say that is probably dropped from ccbill and the security of it has expired. Well, since it's drop try get a membership. According to your statement you won't be billed http://www.iwantcelebs.com/
The security of the site is valid from 20/07/2001 to 20/08/2002. You can ask Kimmykim if there was ever any problem with the program. Next in order not to sound like an asshole, don't badmouth programs you don't know.

deluxe · 11-13-2001, 12:30 AM

Try this: ConversionCash it's both a pay per signup as a recurring sponsor. They pay 35 buck per rebilled free trial (above 75% rebills for me) and then 11.66 recurring...

I've been inside there celeb site and it's huge! If you email them and ask for a pass I'm sure they'll give you one.

Good luck with it

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Steve · 11-13-2001, 12:43 AM

Join a recurring programs site, and see the members area first hand. If it has tumbleweeds blowing thru it, you will waste your time - it won't rebill for shit.

For some reason, partnership sites seem to get more trials than a per sign up site. So, if it re-bills to full member, you might wind up ahead after one month, just by the increase in number of trials you get. A hot recurring sponsor is a great thing to have.

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jimmy3way · 11-13-2001, 12:50 AM

This month I paid my entire BW bill with recurring income.

I was a little dubious but I submitted a bunch of galleries, replaced some links and BAM! Money.

Who'da thunk it.

theseeker · 11-13-2001, 01:27 AM

Soul_Rebel,

I'm sorry if I offended you.

I thought the program you mentioned seemed great and tried to join them but it didn't work. Again and again.. for four times. Even worse, back then i also got "the security is expired" message. So I assumed it was not around anymore. What else would I come up with?

Anyway you've recommended me one of your friend's site. Thanks a lot. I will see their member area myself. I'm really in need of a decent site.

theseeker · 11-13-2001, 01:29 AM

I'm a small fish not a moron.

I feel really bad when I see nonqualifying paysites rip off people(This is not TGP traffic!) and make them leave.

50% recurring for LIFE?
Fuck you.

Theo · 11-13-2001, 02:00 AM

50% recurring for LIFE?

two years in the adult industry and obviously you never learnt anything. Straight now. I could run a celeb paysite, shaving you 50% of your sending hits, shaving your signups, offering you my homemade stats and paying you $35/trial. It would be a good deal,right? Who ripped off people and what makes a paysite qualified? Qualified can be a sponsor with some establised paysites, but when they release a new paysite this is not qualified. If you expect to make real money with qualified paysites, better start working on SE traffic.

The following are some examples of sponsors they came in my mind and typed their url on my IE. The shaving i reffered is not related with any of the following sponsors. But it was an example to demonstrate that anyone can do anything in this industry.
What I found:
Soulcash: "The easiest sell in the industry."
Truecash: "Use one code to promote our 12 supersites! Earn 60% recurring forever or now earn money up front in our exciting $35 pay-per-signup program! "
Topbucks:"Which ever program you choose, with Topbucks you make more money from the traffic you already have"
Pornmegabucks:"You Could Make Over $88 OFF ONE CLICK!! "
Each sponsor MUST convince the webmaster that he's the best. If you're the webmaster and you take by word everything you read, then welcome to the DISNEYLAND my boy.

You know this is the adult industry. Fuck you too.

PS. Stop begging for celeb member's areas to check on boards, all of them have a trial, you can join the top 10-15 of them with less than $35 and see for your own. Unless you want to spend a week on this ending up with 3 paysite logins and avoiding $35.

Goodbye my heroe

cheque · 11-13-2001, 03:35 AM

My earnings increased heavily since I use partnership programs. I?m getting very good results with MatrixDollars.com. The conversion rate isn?t very good but the average retention rate is rather high.

I?m also operating my own paysite with a partnership program using the CCBill system. I?m testing for three months now and the result of testing is that you get good retentions with daily updates at least 3000+ pictures divided in at least fifty different pictures sets (different girls, different style). I have tested this in my own membership area and through sending question lists to old members. If you are choosing a partnership program you should check their site on these figures.

But take in mind that this is only a small market research (32 responses). Also the quality of the content is important. There are some content providers offering content CD?s with over 2000 pics for just $100. But this content won?t get a high retention rate.

My paysite is now active for 7 months, but I?m still filling the membership area with new content every week. The retention rate is still climbing, but the average membership rate after the trial membership (conversion rate trial-monthly 36%) is only 1,6 month so I have plenty of work to do for the next months.

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Absolut · 11-13-2001, 10:40 AM

theseeker if you work in niche market you can try our program.

We have 7 pay sites with exclusive only content (we shoot content ourselves) and daily updates. As you understand this means good rebills.

Check my signature.
Good luck

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www.ferrocash.com
Great niche sites to promote!

11-12-2001, 09:26 PM	#1
theseeker Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 9	Best Recurring Revenue!? I've been a webmaster for 2 yrs but it's been only three months since I started to use adult revshare programs. They say the monthly revenue is going up since it's partnership and they are sharing all the recurring revenue with partners. But it is simply nothing but lie! My monthly earning's almost the same. How frustrating! So.. Alrighty there's no point beating around the bush. Which programs bring you the best recurring income? (which could be the same question with "which company has the best content and design, so that members never even think of leaving?") Please feel free to post your own company ONLY IF you are confident enough with your site to give me 30-minute-tour. Yes, I signed up two paysites at my expense, and found that they shouldn't be a paysite. Too many broken links, way too poor design and content. I don't understand what they are doing with all the money they are making. I hope I just picked wrong sites. OK, guys.. please help me out! When it comes to "Recurring", which is the best for you? (preferably celebrity site)

11-12-2001, 09:55 PM	#2
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	from my experience on partnership sites i would never sign up with them unless they are a mega sponser site with 5 or more other paysites,,, but there are couple single ones that are googd,,, this is becuase you can always squeeze another rebill by giving a surfer an option to get access to all the sites prior to canceling,,, but remember it still takes around 3 months for you sign ups to equal per sign up,, which is very important to understand,,, check www.soulcash.com i highly reccommend them ------------------ ------------ Playa icq#38147712 www.NoBSdialer.com My #1 Sponser$50 bonus just for signing up

11-12-2001, 10:03 PM	#3
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11-12-2001, 10:05 PM	#4
Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Playa's right. Its going to take 3 months of sending the same # of joins to a partnership before your $$ will be the same as with a per sign up. Then depending on who you're promoting, after 3 months you should see a steady increase in your revenue. And you get the added bonus of having a recurring base to get you through the times when the signups just aren't with you. And those happen to everybody. As far as hold times go, right now I'm really happy with Oxcash and you can't forget Porn Mega Bucks I'm having good conversions with some new stuff right now, but its too soon to tell how well they'll retain the members. Hope that helped ------------------ 90% of this business is half mental.

11-12-2001, 10:05 PM	#5
mailman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,311	ALSO important is that there is no shaving cause mostlikly if it is a partnershit it will use CCBill or IBill wich is good cause then you will know your true ratios i currently and doing celeb partnership and it honestly is making me the most $$ ever

11-12-2001, 10:12 PM	#7
theseeker Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 9	Thanks Playa. Well, considering the charateristics of celebrity sites, no site can't have unique content. I guess I'd better start my paysite rather than being a revshare partner. I like Gammacash's the most but they don't have celeb sites. I guess they know what they should do and what they shouldn't do. More input would be appreciated...

11-12-2001, 10:21 PM	#8
theseeker Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 9	You guys are so right. I should wait at least three months (but I already waited 3 moths and 2 days..) Even worse, I already found that how lousy site I'm promoting right now.

11-12-2001, 10:23 PM	#9
theseeker Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 9	Should I just shut up and keep making money with them til starting my own paysite? This is not a handsome money though.

11-12-2001, 10:37 PM	#10
gkk Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 169	Oxcash sounds VERY interesting, but their "terms" link is broken so I won't touch them. There could be a "nasty" about webmasters in Japan, and I'd never know...

11-13-2001, 12:30 AM	#14
deluxe Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,434	Try this: ConversionCash it's both a pay per signup as a recurring sponsor. They pay 35 buck per rebilled free trial (above 75% rebills for me) and then 11.66 recurring... I've been inside there celeb site and it's huge! If you email them and ask for a pass I'm sure they'll give you one. Good luck with it ------------------ TGP webmasters - contact me for an intresting deal ICQ:77717734

11-13-2001, 12:43 AM	#15
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	Join a recurring programs site, and see the members area first hand. If it has tumbleweeds blowing thru it, you will waste your time - it won't rebill for shit. For some reason, partnership sites seem to get more trials than a per sign up site. So, if it re-bills to full member, you might wind up ahead after one month, just by the increase in number of trials you get. A hot recurring sponsor is a great thing to have. ------------------ 404 Traffic For Sale $50/20k

11-13-2001, 12:50 AM	#16
jimmy3way Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Top Secret Hideout Posts: 2,508	This month I paid my entire BW bill with recurring income. I was a little dubious but I submitted a bunch of galleries, replaced some links and BAM! Money. Who'da thunk it.

11-13-2001, 01:27 AM	#17
theseeker Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 9	Soul_Rebel, I'm sorry if I offended you. I thought the program you mentioned seemed great and tried to join them but it didn't work. Again and again.. for four times. Even worse, back then i also got "the security is expired" message. So I assumed it was not around anymore. What else would I come up with? Anyway you've recommended me one of your friend's site. Thanks a lot. I will see their member area myself. I'm really in need of a decent site.

11-13-2001, 01:29 AM	#18
theseeker Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 9	I'm a small fish not a moron. I feel really bad when I see nonqualifying paysites rip off people(This is not TGP traffic!) and make them leave. 50% recurring for LIFE? Fuck you.

11-13-2001, 02:00 AM	#19
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	50% recurring for LIFE? two years in the adult industry and obviously you never learnt anything. Straight now. I could run a celeb paysite, shaving you 50% of your sending hits, shaving your signups, offering you my homemade stats and paying you $35/trial. It would be a good deal,right? Who ripped off people and what makes a paysite qualified? Qualified can be a sponsor with some establised paysites, but when they release a new paysite this is not qualified. If you expect to make real money with qualified paysites, better start working on SE traffic. The following are some examples of sponsors they came in my mind and typed their url on my IE. The shaving i reffered is not related with any of the following sponsors. But it was an example to demonstrate that anyone can do anything in this industry. What I found: Soulcash: "The easiest sell in the industry." Truecash: "Use one code to promote our 12 supersites! Earn 60% recurring forever or now earn money up front in our exciting $35 pay-per-signup program! " Topbucks:"Which ever program you choose, with Topbucks you make more money from the traffic you already have" Pornmegabucks:"You Could Make Over $88 OFF ONE CLICK!! " Each sponsor MUST convince the webmaster that he's the best. If you're the webmaster and you take by word everything you read, then welcome to the DISNEYLAND my boy. You know this is the adult industry. Fuck you too. PS. Stop begging for celeb member's areas to check on boards, all of them have a trial, you can join the top 10-15 of them with less than $35 and see for your own. Unless you want to spend a week on this ending up with 3 paysite logins and avoiding $35. Goodbye my heroe

11-13-2001, 03:35 AM	#20
cheque Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 259	My earnings increased heavily since I use partnership programs. I?m getting very good results with MatrixDollars.com. The conversion rate isn?t very good but the average retention rate is rather high. I?m also operating my own paysite with a partnership program using the CCBill system. I?m testing for three months now and the result of testing is that you get good retentions with daily updates at least 3000+ pictures divided in at least fifty different pictures sets (different girls, different style). I have tested this in my own membership area and through sending question lists to old members. If you are choosing a partnership program you should check their site on these figures. But take in mind that this is only a small market research (32 responses). Also the quality of the content is important. There are some content providers offering content CD?s with over 2000 pics for just $100. But this content won?t get a high retention rate. My paysite is now active for 7 months, but I?m still filling the membership area with new content every week. The retention rate is still climbing, but the average membership rate after the trial membership (conversion rate trial-monthly 36%) is only 1,6 month so I have plenty of work to do for the next months. ------------------ Check out this Hot PornstarGarden.com 70% Partnership Program PornstarGarden 70% Partnership Program

11-13-2001, 10:40 AM	#21
Absolut Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 109	theseeker if you work in niche market you can try our program. We have 7 pay sites with exclusive only content (we shoot content ourselves) and daily updates. As you understand this means good rebills. Check my signature. Good luck ------------------ www.ferrocash.com Great niche sites to promote!