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  • OzMan
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    • Sep 2003
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    #1

    If you shot a handgun straight up in the air....

    how high would the bullet go, say a 9mm.

    My 6yo just asked me if it would go "higher than a mountain" so I am googling it to keep up his belief in his all knowing father but thought some gun freaks on here might know or have tried it.
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    • Evil1
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      • Mar 2002
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      #2
      a mile +/-

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        • beemk
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          last time i checked mountains come in different sizes.
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            • Aly
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              #4
              Originally posted by beemk
              last time i checked mountains come in different sizes.
              Not when you're six, silly!
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                • jojo55
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                  • Dec 2004
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                  #5
                  why don't you tie a tape measure to the end of a bullet and find out

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                    • nofx
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                        • Pete
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                          1 mile 27 1/2 feet 3.3 inches.
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                            • Aly
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                              Of course, you might want to remind your six year old that what goes up must also come down... ...somewhere...
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                                • psyko514
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                                  #9
                                  Tell him to mind his business.

                                  Or tell him it depends on the wind.

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                                    • Fucksakes
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                                      #10
                                      when i was hunting i done that and the cool thing is the gun made no noice till like 5 secs later i would hear the noice.

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                                        • Mr Pheer
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by Fucksakes
                                          when i was hunting i done that and the cool thing is the gun made no noice till like 5 secs later i would hear the noice.
                                          wtf? noice?

                                          dumbass.

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                                            • Mike Okitch
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                                              • May 2004
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                                              #12
                                              That's a cute question from your kid OzMan

                                              But would it go higher than a mountain? Who knows really. In my apartment, if I shot, it wouldn't go higher than the butt of my fat bitchy upstairs neighbor
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                                                • SmokeyTheBear
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                                                  http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/que...php?number=617

                                                  might help figure it out
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                                                    • Holly
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                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by MrPheer
                                                      wtf? noice?

                                                      dumbass.
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                                                        • comeplay
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                                                          a handgun bullet can travel around 2 miles
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                                                            • OzMan
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                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
                                                              http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/que...php?number=617

                                                              might help figure it out
                                                              Interesting link, air resistance is a bigger factor than I had thought.

                                                              Thanks for the replies, I also figured about a mile straight up but now thinking maybe it's less.

                                                              Yes I did inform my son that mountains do come in various sizes

                                                              And about the what goes up must come down, haven't you ever wondered with all the guns shot in the air for NY Eve, July 4 or just for the hell of it, why you never hear of them hitting someone when they come down?
                                                              Last edited by OzMan; 01-24-2005, 04:11 PM.

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                                                                • nofx
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by OzMan
                                                                  And about the what goes up must come down, haven't you ever wondered with all the guns shot in the air for NY Eve, July 4 or just for the hell of it, why you never hear of then hitting someone when they come down?
                                                                  LOL are you serious about that?

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                                                                  There's love and hate, theres live or die.
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                                                                    • psyko514
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                                                                      Originally posted by OzMan
                                                                      And about the what goes up must come down, haven't you ever wondered with all the guns shot in the air for NY Eve, July 4 or just for the hell of it, why you never hear of them hitting someone when they come down?
                                                                      It happens all the time, actually.

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                                                                        • OzMan
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                                                                          Originally posted by nofx
                                                                          LOL are you serious about that?
                                                                          deadly serious, I know the chances are very small but I don't remember ever seeing a news report about it.

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                                                                            • hydro
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                                                                              a more intresting question would be if that bullet would be lethal if it came down on somebody

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                                                                                • Chrome
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                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  When i worked for a newspaper south of Denver....

                                                                                  the bullet shot into the air.. did come down. Right into a kids head.

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                                                                                    • swedguy
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                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by hydro
                                                                                      a more intresting question would be if that bullet would be lethal if it came down on somebody
                                                                                      It would make a hole in your head. The speed would be 9.8 meters per second (32 feet per sec).

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                                                                                        • whodarkman
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                                                                                          Give him a gun and tell him to test it out for his next school project.
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                                                                                            • OzMan
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                                                                                              Originally posted by hydro
                                                                                              a more intresting question would be if that bullet would be lethal if it came down on somebody
                                                                                              yeah I am sure it wouldn't be as fast because of air resistance but like chrome said above apparently it is still fast enough to be lethal.

                                                                                              There is that old story about a penny dropped off the Empire State or wherever being as deadly as a bullet by the time it gets to ground level.

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                                                                                                • OzMan
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                                                                                                  Originally posted by swedguy
                                                                                                  It would make a hole in your head. The speed would be 9.8 meters per second (32 feet per sec).
                                                                                                  no that is the acceleration due to gravity without factoring in air resistance

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                                                                                                    • Myst
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                                                                                                      When fired from a Beretta 92S, the standard issue US Army pistol, a 9 mm Parabellum bullet has a muzzle velocity of 335 m/s. (google)

                                                                                                      0 = 335^2 + 2(-9.81)d
                                                                                                      d = 5719m
                                                                                                      = 5.7km

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                                                                                                        • Meta Ridley
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                                                                                                          http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a950414b.html


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                                                                                                            • OzMan
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                                                                                                              Originally posted by Myst
                                                                                                              When fired from a Beretta 92S, the standard issue US Army pistol, a 9 mm Parabellum bullet has a muzzle velocity of 335 m/s. (google)

                                                                                                              0 = 335^2 + 2(-9.81)d
                                                                                                              d = 5719m
                                                                                                              = 5.7km

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                                                                                                                • swedguy
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                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by OzMan
                                                                                                                  no that is the acceleration due to gravity without factoring in air resistance
                                                                                                                  Yeah, I realized that after the 3 minute edit time had passed

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                                                                                                                    • OzMan
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                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Meta Ridley
                                                                                                                      http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a950414b.html


                                                                                                                      Read this
                                                                                                                      thanks

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                                                                                                                        • Myst
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                                                                                                                          the velocity at the distance from the ground where the bullet was fired is the same up as it is down..

                                                                                                                          so if u were standing right under a gun as its fired up, the bullet would go up, come down, and it would strike u with the same speed as though the gun were pointed at your head directly in the first place

                                                                                                                          this is assuming no wind or air friction tho
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                                                                                                                            • swedguy
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                                                                                                                              http://van.hep.uiuc.edu/van/qa/secti...0310160956.htm

                                                                                                                              However, if you shoot a bullet straight up, it will take quite a long time for it to fall again. When the bullet reaches the top of its trajectory and starts to fall again, the speed that it gains is due only to gravity. At some speed, the force of air resistance (which depends on velocity) will equal the force of gravity (which does not depend on velocity). This is what's referred to as 'terminal velocity.' All falling objects have a terminal velocity. The smaller the object is, the higher the terminal velocity. For a bullet, one estimate that I have read for terminal velocity is around 300 ft/sec (about 200 mph). Since that's a lot slower than a bullet leaves a gun nozzle, it seems that the air resistance really will have a big effect on the speed of the falling bullet.
                                                                                                                              300 ft/sec is pretty fast.

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                                                                                                                                • Myst
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                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by OzMan
                                                                                                                                  you live in a vaccuum?
                                                                                                                                  3 mins over and i couldnt edit it

                                                                                                                                  but i dont see how it would be that big a difference
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                                                                                                                                    • JohnW
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                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Fucksakes
                                                                                                                                      when i was hunting i done that and the cool thing is the gun made no noice till like 5 secs later i would hear the noice.
                                                                                                                                      holy fuck man...

                                                                                                                                      "...i done that..." ???
                                                                                                                                      "noice" ???

                                                                                                                                      Jesus fucking christ...I cannot believe you just typed that without thinking that you sound like a complete fucking waste of skin...You ought to be ashamed of yourself...Do you even have a Grade 2 education?

                                                                                                                                      JESUS CHRIST!!! I'm ashamed to be Canadian after reading that...

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                                                                                                                                        • pxxx
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                                                                                                                                          That is pretty good question.

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                                                                                                                                            • desus
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                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by OzMan
                                                                                                                                              And about the what goes up must come down, haven't you ever wondered with all the guns shot in the air for NY Eve, July 4 or just for the hell of it, why you never hear of them hitting someone when they come down?
                                                                                                                                              they do hit people. I know a girls uncle who was killed on new years when a bullet that had been shot in the air came back down and struck him.

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                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by nofx
                                                                                                                                                  feed your kid some Draino tonight and see if he asks you anymore crazy questions you cannot answer.
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                                                                                                                                                    • flashfire
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                                                                                                                                                      I would have to agree with about 1 mile

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                                                                                                                                                        • SleazyDream
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                                                                                                                                                          csi did a show where someone got killed doing a stunt like that.

                                                                                                                                                          how far it would go would depend on a lot. assuming no wind factors elevation would play a big roll, as would the amount of gunpowder in the bullet - the weight of the bullet, the shape, material, and amount of tristing the bullet would get from the barrel, etc.
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                                                                                                                                                            • BV
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                                                                                                                                                              Also explain to him that if you fired that 9mm round straight ahead of you perpindicular with the ground with one hand and at the same time with the other hand dropped a 9mm slug, they would both hit the ground at the same time. (in theory) minus a few variables like earth curvature etc..

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                                                                                                                                                                • wedouglas
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                                                                                                                                                                  im not so sure it would be lethal falling down again....hail falls from much higher up and isnt lethal...also the bullet would have to come straight down on its tip for it to acheive maximum velocity....aerodynamic drag is dependent on surface area in contact with some scientific constants that i dont recall...gamma is one of the varibale i beleive...butanyway...300ft/s im not so sure about that. force = mass x acceleration and its acceleration is roughly 9.8m/s^2 if there is no aero drag and the mass is very very low seeing as Newtons is measure in kgm/s^2. so it may fall fast but i doubt its lethal

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                                                                                                                                                                    • Ron Bennett
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                                                                                                                                                                      Hail can be lethal ... also a bullet is very dense compared to hail - likely experience less air resistance and furthermore likely to do inflict *more* damage/injury than a hail stone of similar size.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • desus
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                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by wedouglas
                                                                                                                                                                          im not so sure it would be lethal falling down again....hail falls from much higher up and isnt lethal...also the bullet would have to come straight down on its tip for it to acheive maximum velocity....aerodynamic drag is dependent on surface area in contact with some scientific constants that i dont recall...gamma is one of the varibale i beleive...butanyway...300ft/s im not so sure about that. force = mass x acceleration and its acceleration is roughly 9.8m/s^2 if there is no aero drag and the mass is very very low seeing as Newtons is measure in kgm/s^2. so it may fall fast but i doubt its lethal
                                                                                                                                                                          it is lethal
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                                                                                                                                                                          that math gave me a killer headache man. lol
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                                                                                                                                                                              If you know the speed of the bullet then there is an equation you can calculate the distance it will travel while it loses 9.8 meters a second. At its peak it will be at a standstill for a split second and then it will start to speed up at 9.8 meters per second as it drops. Assuming the bullet lands in a spot with the exact elevation that it was shot from it will be traveling at the same speed on impact as when it was fired.

                                                                                                                                                                              If the bullet was fired horizontally it would travel at a constant speed it left the chamber at (assuming no wind resistance) until gravity pulls it down to the ground at a rate of 9.8 meters per second.
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                                                                                                                                                                                • wedouglas
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                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by desus
                                                                                                                                                                                  it is lethal
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                                                                                                                                                                                  that math gave me a killer headache man. lol
                                                                                                                                                                                  stray gunfire isnt perfect though. those deaths could by bullets boucning and deflecting off close walls etc. i doubt anyone shoots 100% straight up and if they did i still dont think it would be fatal. most stray bullets arent coming down, they are still going out.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by wedouglas
                                                                                                                                                                                      stray gunfire isnt perfect though. those deaths could by bullets boucning and deflecting off close walls etc. i doubt anyone shoots 100% straight up and if they did i still dont think it would be fatal. most stray bullets arent coming down, they are still going out.
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              very very high

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by OzMan
                                                                                                                                                                                                  deadly serious, I know the chances are very small but I don't remember ever seeing a news report about it.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  It has happened many times.
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by nofx
                                                                                                                                                                                                      feed your kid some Draino tonight and see if he asks you anymore crazy questions you cannot answer.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      dont waste perfectly good draino on his intestines, just mix the draino on a bottle with some tin foil, there's more fun to be had

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