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Slick · 11-10-2001, 08:50 PM

Hey people, I have a tech support question for all of you, he he he.

Ok now, I'm currently tossing around upgrading to a new computer and keeping my old one. Right now I have a 1-ghz athlon with 512-megs 133-mhz ram and a killer sound system.

Everything is decent except for the video card. I only have a Geforce DDR card in it now. I'd like to step up to a Geforce 3, but the thing is that my damn motherboard only supports 2X, which the card that I'm looking at will work on my system just fine, BUT that brings me to my question.

Would the difference between running a Geforce 3 card on a system with a 2X AGP slot be that much difference than a 4X AGP slot ?? I'm sure that there'd be some difference, but would it be that noticable.

I'm thinking about jumping on an 1800 Thunderbird, but if for a couple hundred, I can drag more time outta this sytem, then I will.

Amputate Your Head · 11-10-2001, 08:53 PM

Depends on how graphic intense your work is. Here I run the fastest shit I can get for my money... cuz time is everything.

Slick · 11-10-2001, 08:56 PM

Work ??? ha ha ha, I'm looking for gaming. I gotta get ready for Wolfenstein, Medal Of Honor, and Ghost Recon, ha ha ha.

Whatta think ??

[Labret] · 11-10-2001, 09:10 PM

Just for gaming? I grabbed the AGP 2

Good stuff.

wiZd0m · 11-11-2001, 12:35 AM

Even if you had a 8X AGP, you would not see much an improvement*, because your bottleneck is your MOBO 200Mhz FSB and 133Mhz.

you would get a much greater performance with a new Motherboard like Abit K7G (2x133 FSD => 266FSB) and DDR-SDRAM.

* exept for the new passes that are done hardware

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Slick · 11-11-2001, 07:42 AM

Thanks for the comments everyone ! I think that I came to a conclusion. I'll just go out and get the video card for now, then I'll go ahead and pop in a new motherboard/cpu/ram in the near future.

That's a good idea Wisdom. I thought about tinkering with replacing my motherboard, I think that I'll just have to do that.

Is it hard to change out a motherboard ? Is it pretty much, disconnect everything on your old board, yank it out, pop in the new board, load everything back on, and you're good to go ?? I've done upgrades and stuff to my computer, but never dealt with motherboards before. I just wouldn't wanna bone anything up.

Osholio · 11-11-2001, 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by Slick:

Is it hard to change out a motherboard ? Is it pretty much, disconnect everything on your old board, yank it out, pop in the new board, load everything back on, and you're good to go ?? I've done upgrades and stuff to my computer, but never dealt with motherboards before. I just wouldn't wanna bone anything up.

Changing motherboards is relatively painless. The trick is to install the CPU, CPU Fan and memory before you put the board in (and make sure all the jumpers are in the correct position). Once that's done, put the mobo in and reconnect everything. If you're running a reasonably modern operating system, like Win2k or 98/ME, it should redetect everything and carry on working. Don't forget to install any drivers specific to the board.

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wiZd0m · 11-11-2001, 10:04 AM

When you change Mobo, the only thing you have to do, really, is to read the little manual that comes with it from the first page to the last one. While you do that, have your board handy so you can locate all the important things you'll have to play with, if any.

If you remove the fan from your cpu to move it to the new board, don't forget to put thermal paste again before you put the fan back, or you will be able to watch first hand what happens to a cpu who which his heat is not propagated to the alluminum properly

Here is some nice reviews with different chipset you might want to look at and compare the <a href="http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q3/010806/index.html">AMD760 Chipset</a> to the <a href="http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q3/010808/index.html">VIA KT266</a>

Personally, I opted for the AMD chipset, but you have enough reading to make up your own mind

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Slick · 11-11-2001, 01:26 PM

Hey, thanks guys, I appreciate it. It's good to hear that changing it out isn't gonna be much of a pain.

Wish me luck when the time comes for the new motherboard. I just ordered a nice new Geforce 3 Ti500 video card, so I'll be rocking with that, in the next couple of weeks, I should have the cash to drop on a new motherboard, CPU, and memory.

Wisdom, thanks for the links ! Very informative.

[This message has been edited by Slick (edited 11-11-2001).]

HQ · 11-12-2001, 12:02 AM

www.madonion.com is a good place to find out shit like this slick.

plus u can also figure out how to overclock your system way more than you probably can first imagine.

PLUS their benchmark programs kick ass. and usual every benchmark they have has a separate graphic/music demo in it that rocks.

download 3dmark2000/3dmark2001/xl-r8r to see what i mean!

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HQ · 11-12-2001, 12:03 AM

oh,

i guess this is the link u want: http://gamershq.madonion.com/
u can access it from the mainpage link above however.

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11-12-2001, 12:07 AM

A good place to gather some info on hardware is the www.hardforum.com

It's full of guys who know what they're talking about.

The frontpage www.hardocp.com is a great review site as well.

11-10-2001, 08:50 PM	#1
Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	2X AGP VS. 4X AGP Hey people, I have a tech support question for all of you, he he he. Ok now, I'm currently tossing around upgrading to a new computer and keeping my old one. Right now I have a 1-ghz athlon with 512-megs 133-mhz ram and a killer sound system. Everything is decent except for the video card. I only have a Geforce DDR card in it now. I'd like to step up to a Geforce 3, but the thing is that my damn motherboard only supports 2X, which the card that I'm looking at will work on my system just fine, BUT that brings me to my question. Would the difference between running a Geforce 3 card on a system with a 2X AGP slot be that much difference than a 4X AGP slot ?? I'm sure that there'd be some difference, but would it be that noticable. I'm thinking about jumping on an 1800 Thunderbird, but if for a couple hundred, I can drag more time outta this sytem, then I will.

11-10-2001, 08:53 PM	#2
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	Depends on how graphic intense your work is. Here I run the fastest shit I can get for my money... cuz time is everything.

11-10-2001, 08:56 PM	#3
Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	Work ??? ha ha ha, I'm looking for gaming. I gotta get ready for Wolfenstein, Medal Of Honor, and Ghost Recon, ha ha ha. Whatta think ??

11-10-2001, 09:10 PM	#4
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	Just for gaming? I grabbed the AGP 2 Good stuff.

11-11-2001, 12:35 AM	#5
wiZd0m Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,526	Even if you had a 8X AGP, you would not see much an improvement, because your bottleneck is your MOBO 200Mhz FSB and 133Mhz. you would get a much greater performance with a new Motherboard like Abit K7G (2x133 FSD => 266FSB) and DDR-SDRAM. exept for the new passes that are done hardware ------------------ wiZd0m Thunder Free Adult Hosting - Fastest servers in the industry Fortune Pussy Adult Links - The best in adult links

11-11-2001, 07:42 AM	#6
Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	Thanks for the comments everyone ! I think that I came to a conclusion. I'll just go out and get the video card for now, then I'll go ahead and pop in a new motherboard/cpu/ram in the near future. That's a good idea Wisdom. I thought about tinkering with replacing my motherboard, I think that I'll just have to do that. Is it hard to change out a motherboard ? Is it pretty much, disconnect everything on your old board, yank it out, pop in the new board, load everything back on, and you're good to go ?? I've done upgrades and stuff to my computer, but never dealt with motherboards before. I just wouldn't wanna bone anything up.

11-11-2001, 10:04 AM	#8
wiZd0m Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,526	When you change Mobo, the only thing you have to do, really, is to read the little manual that comes with it from the first page to the last one. While you do that, have your board handy so you can locate all the important things you'll have to play with, if any. If you remove the fan from your cpu to move it to the new board, don't forget to put thermal paste again before you put the fan back, or you will be able to watch first hand what happens to a cpu who which his heat is not propagated to the alluminum properly Here is some nice reviews with different chipset you might want to look at and compare the <a href="http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q3/010806/index.html">AMD760 Chipset</a> to the <a href="http://www6.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q3/010808/index.html">VIA KT266</a> Personally, I opted for the AMD chipset, but you have enough reading to make up your own mind ------------------ wiZd0m Thunder Free Adult Hosting - Fastest servers in the industry Fortune Pussy Adult Links - The best in adult links [This message has been edited by wiZd0m (edited 11-11-2001).]

11-11-2001, 01:26 PM	#9
Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	Hey, thanks guys, I appreciate it. It's good to hear that changing it out isn't gonna be much of a pain. Wish me luck when the time comes for the new motherboard. I just ordered a nice new Geforce 3 Ti500 video card, so I'll be rocking with that, in the next couple of weeks, I should have the cash to drop on a new motherboard, CPU, and memory. Wisdom, thanks for the links ! Very informative. [This message has been edited by Slick (edited 11-11-2001).]

11-12-2001, 12:02 AM	#10
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	www.madonion.com is a good place to find out shit like this slick. plus u can also figure out how to overclock your system way more than you probably can first imagine. PLUS their benchmark programs kick ass. and usual every benchmark they have has a separate graphic/music demo in it that rocks. download 3dmark2000/3dmark2001/xl-r8r to see what i mean! ------------------ HQ Daily Nude Trade Traffic w/HQ Eraser Cash Oliver Klozov Amateur Pages

11-12-2001, 12:03 AM	#11
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	oh, i guess this is the link u want: http://gamershq.madonion.com/ u can access it from the mainpage link above however. ------------------ HQ Daily Nude Trade Traffic w/HQ Eraser Cash Oliver Klozov Amateur Pages

11-12-2001, 12:07 AM	#12
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	A good place to gather some info on hardware is the www.hardforum.com It's full of guys who know what they're talking about. The frontpage www.hardocp.com is a great review site as well.