Attention Affiliate Program Owners and Affiliate Managers - GoFuckYourself.com

baddog · 01-20-2005, 05:58 PM

I just wanted to take this opportunity to make sure you were all aware that the special introductory pricing for the T3Report ends on January 31. 2005.

For the low introductory price of only $150, you will get a monthly report showing you not only every site that has a link to you, but who has a link to them. You will also discover who else they are linking to.

"So what?" you might say, "I have traffic logs, I know who is sending me traffic."

This may be true, but did it occur to you that you have affiliates that have great potential, but because of their linking relationship to you it is not being realized?

You can also find virtual goldmines of potential affiliates when you find out who is sending traffic to your affiliates. You can go after that second level traffic source and perhaps get them to sign up and send their traffic directly to you.

Every month for a year you will get an email report showing all the new links that are discovered. With close to 2.5 million unique domains, and more than 90 million URLs in our database we are providing a service that would take you 100's if not 1,000's of hours to research on your own.

Combine that with the fact that all links are verified before the report is sent to you, T3Report puts all the other options to shame.

Here is another plus. For only $250 we will do the same on any of your competitors.

If you are opening a new sponsor program, or even a new TGP and you want to find out where the big boys are getting their traffic, T3Report is for you.

If you want to purchase or trade traffic with someone, you can verify the quality of their traffic.

We even have special options available where you can provide us with a list of your affiliates and we will spider them for you and will guarantee through a confidentiality agreement to not provide the information to your competitors.

Now is the time, get in early before the prices go up on February 1, 2005. This is data that would take you forever to retrieve on your own. Check out our Domain Lookup, and the sample report provided at T3Report.com

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me direct at [email protected] or ICQ 16075497.

It will be one of your best investments of 2005.

Nader · 01-20-2005, 05:59 PM

sounds good. good luck with it

freeadultcontent · 01-20-2005, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You can also find virtual goldmines of potential affiliates when you find out who is sending traffic to your affiliates. You can go after that second level traffic source and perhaps get them to sign up and send their traffic directly to you.

Ok now that is just a fucked up suggestion, who is greedy enough to fuck their affiliates that way?

MikeHawk · 01-20-2005, 06:02 PM

Baddog, that is so very cool, I remember when you showed me this way back ...think we might grab this soon.

MaDalton · 01-20-2005, 06:10 PM

baddog and brandon are a really sexy couple

it sounds like a really cool idea and it has the potential to affect the whole adult business. so with that a trained monkey could run a webmaster program (or let me say it that way: he can also be successful now).

FightThisPatent · 01-20-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

baddog and brandon are a really sexy couple

You trying to flatter your way to some free reports?

Having a report on a competitor to where they get their traffic from, doesn't make it easy, you still have to do something with that information. The t3report makes it so you now know who has traffic and who to contact.

For some people, it will validate their traffic, to show they have done a very good job in having traffic coming to them, so by working a deal with that website, you can tap into their traffic.

For others, it may expose that they have crap traffic.. seeing a bunch of foreign websites linking to a website, might reveal or explain the quality of traffic that you have tapped into.

The anticipated upgrade to the report is the ability to identify which pages/links have keywords that you are looking to target.. so that you can then focus in on just the websites and linking traffic that could potential point to you.

Yes, t3report is disruptive technology, but it is a tool that doesn't replace webmasters, it gives you knowledge to help you make business decisions about where your traffic comes from, and where to look for traffic.

Ordering a report on your own domain or a competitor answers the big question for newbies and experienced webmasters, where can i get traffic?

Fight the Long Posts!

MaDalton · 01-20-2005, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

You trying to flatter your way to some free reports?

did it work?

RP Fade · 01-20-2005, 06:23 PM

T3 is really awesome, detailed and useful. Thanks BD for our report and good luck with it. I'm sure it will do well

baddog · 01-20-2005, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by freeadultcontent

Ok now that is just a fucked up suggestion, who is greedy enough to fuck their affiliates that way?

How do you figure it is fucking their affiliates? If the affiliate isn't sending you as much traffic as they could, either out of laziness, or they are concentrating on other programs more than yours, why shouldn't you be able to approach that party and make their traffic profitable to you?

baddog · 01-20-2005, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

did it work?

I think he wants dinner first, then possibly

freeadultcontent · 01-20-2005, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

How do you figure it is fucking their affiliates? If the affiliate isn't sending you as much traffic as they could, either out of laziness, or they are concentrating on other programs more than yours, why shouldn't you be able to approach that party and make their traffic profitable to you?

I may still be in a nyquil daze, yet it sounded like it meant for you to see where the affiliate gets their traffic, then go to that source and try to get them to sign up and send directly to you, bypassing the affiliate.

ShaneRyale · 01-20-2005, 06:43 PM

Sounds pretty sweet. I'm going to check it out and hit you up.

MaDalton · 01-20-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I think he wants dinner first, then possibly

was that the way you both hooked up?

FightThisPatent · 01-20-2005, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

was that the way you both hooked up?

It was actually at the Women In Adult mixer (cybernet)? And has been blissful ever since.

Fight the Secure in Ones Heterosexuality!

baddog · 01-20-2005, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by freeadultcontent

I may still be in a nyquil daze, yet it sounded like it meant for you to see where the affiliate gets their traffic, then go to that source and try to get them to sign up and send directly to you, bypassing the affiliate.

To be honest, there are probably a 100 different uses for this tool that I have not even thought of. My personal favorite use is to find out where affiliates that might have questionable traffic are getting it.

Supposing you have a teen program, and you have one affiliate that sends an inordinate number of signups, but a great number of them are CB's or never go past the trial. So you get a report on them, and you find out that they are actually scrubbing their traffic, and two levels down they have galleries catering to CP types. You don't know it thru your traffic logs, because two levels down they are telling them to go to some site, and click a link there that will take them to a site that is loaded with CP.

They follow all the links as instructed, sign up for your site and discover that there is no CP on it so they cancel the trial or CB.
T3Report will help you find that.

There are many uses for T3Report - how you decide to use it is entirely up to you.

baddog · 01-20-2005, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

It was actually at the Women In Adult mixer (cybernet)? And has been blissful ever since.

Fight the Secure in Ones Heterosexuality!

True story. WIA mixers are good for meeting business types.

d00t · 01-20-2005, 07:05 PM

interesting tool....

dcortez · 01-20-2005, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You can also find virtual goldmines of potential affiliates when you find out who is sending traffic to your affiliates. You can go after that second level traffic source and perhaps get them to sign up and send their traffic directly to you.

1) Knowing where your traffic comes from is SE 101 but doing a 'family tree' of links to your site (which can be done with a few free SE searches) does not give ANY indication of their relative impact on your traffic or value to your web endeavours.

2) The spirit of actively trying to circumvent your own affiliates' traffic models (and hard work) is a very bad faith gesture (sleezeball tactic).

3) Do NOT quote me and use my comments/content in your blog (as you have in the past) - get your own material!

-Dino

baddog · 01-20-2005, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dcortez

3) Do NOT quote me and use my comments/content in your blog (as you have in the past) - get your own material!

-Dino

I did not quote you. However, when questions are posed by anyone, there is a good chance that at least 10 others have the same question but are not going to make the effort to post it. So, it only makes sense to respond to it so that not only the person asking, but others that might be thinking the same thing will be addressed.

If you don't want people quoting you, I suggest you stop posting on a public forum.

FightThisPatent · 01-20-2005, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dcortez

1) Knowing where your traffic comes from is SE 101 but doing a 'family tree' of links to your site (which can be done with a few free SE searches) does not give ANY indication of their relative impact on your traffic or value to your web endeavours.

2) The spirit of actively trying to circumvent your own affiliates' traffic models (and hard work) is a very bad faith gesture (sleezeball tactic).

1) There is alot of qualitative analysis that can be done. Google's own PR algorithm applies linking relationships to determine ranking. The report can't show metrics like actual visitors, but you can gain some inferences of looking at where the traffic is coming from, along with number of linking relationships. On the simple surface, more linking relationships can mean potential flows of traffic.

You can try mining search engines for data, but each result only gives you 1,000 results.. and you have to do alot of keyword toying to be able to get additional results, and then you have to be able to create the linking relationships.

Your observation seems to be very SE-centric..and t3report is looking at things from the flipside, where linking relationships are the gold mine of traffic. Rather than competing with SEO to get one of the top 1000 query results, a website can tap into traffic that is accumulated from however they get it and looking to direct it elsewhere.

T3report's analysis shows benefit, the second a person leaves a SE result. That first website can then direct people to additional places.

2) How an Affiliate Manager uses this tool is up to them.. if they do this "sleaze ball tactic", how is that any different than "shaving" or other deceptive practices? Some affiliate managers will use the report in to order to encourage existing affiliates who aren't sending alot of traffic, to send more traffic if through the analysis, they see potential of their traffic from where they are receiving the traffic.

Fight the Analysis!

baddog · 01-20-2005, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dcortez

1) Knowing where your traffic comes from is SE 101 but doing a 'family tree' of links to your site (which can be done with a few free SE searches) does not give ANY indication of their relative impact on your traffic or value to your web endeavours.

2) The spirit of actively trying to circumvent your own affiliates' traffic models (and hard work) is a very bad faith gesture (sleezeball tactic).

1. This is not SE 101. In fact is has nothing to do with SEO/SEM. Knowing the linking relationships between you and your affiliates only makes sense.

2. We are not suggesting that anyone try to circumvent their affiliates, but with the information provided with the T3Report you can help your affiliates better utilize the linking relationships they have with you and with others.

As stated above, there are many uses for this tool, how you choose to use it is up to you.

XpressMedia · 01-20-2005, 08:09 PM

Good luck with it

dcortez · 01-20-2005, 08:18 PM

A:

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Originally Posted by baddog

We are not suggesting that anyone try to circumvent their affiliates

B:

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Originally Posted by baddog

...You can go after that second level traffic source and perhaps get them to sign up and send their traffic directly to you.

Which is it - A or B?

Promoting bad faith use of potentially good tools is not a very good way to introduce them.

baddog · 01-20-2005, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dcortez

A:
B:
Which is it - A or B?

Promoting bad faith use of potentially good tools is not a very good way to introduce them.

You are absolutely correct. The fact is that I was trying to do three things at once when I wrote that post, and I was coming up with uses that have been brought to my attention as everytime I show it to someone else a new use is brought to my attention.

I try to make my posts different instead of rattling off the same mundane comments each and every time, so in my haste I used a suggestion that could obviously be taken the wrong way. You will be happy to know that the press release I am writing now will replace that paragraph with a more user friendly example.

I take it that since you did describe the T3Report as a potentially good tool that you do see the potential, so I would like to make this offer to you.

How about I have a snapshot report done for you on a site that you would find relevant and you come back with an honest evaluation on it? Deal?

SureFire · 01-20-2005, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

To be honest, there are probably a 100 different uses for this tool that I have not even thought of. My personal favorite use is to find out where affiliates that might have questionable traffic are getting it.

Supposing you have a teen program, and you have one affiliate that sends an inordinate number of signups, but a great number of them are CB's or never go past the trial. So you get a report on them, and you find out that they are actually scrubbing their traffic, and two levels down they have galleries catering to CP types. You don't know it thru your traffic logs, because two levels down they are telling them to go to some site, and click a link there that will take them to a site that is loaded with CP.

They follow all the links as instructed, sign up for your site and discover that there is no CP on it so they cancel the trial or CB.
T3Report will help you find that.

There are many uses for T3Report - how you decide to use it is entirely up to you.

Wow! Let me get this right your tracking program is designed to spy on affiliates sending traffic to spot out a Ch*ld P*rn promoter so charge backs won?t happen or help the affiliate to use his traffic more wisely to the sponsor that is using your services or spots that ones traffic is going to another sponsor.

Either way it seems a bit invasive. I thought an affiliate was an independent contractor and at anytime breaking the TOS, the company could cancel the account and the affiliate would forfeit all monies due.

It sounds like your program is the ?patriotic act? for porn. Can?t wait for version 2.

baddog · 01-20-2005, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire

Wow! Let me get this right your tracking program is designed to spy on affiliates sending traffic to spot out a Ch*ld P*rn promoter so charge backs won?t happen or help the affiliate to use his traffic more wisely to the sponsor that is using your services or spots that ones traffic is going to another sponsor.

Either way it seems a bit invasive. I thought an affiliate was an independent contractor and at anytime breaking the TOS, the company could cancel the account and the affiliate would forfeit all monies due.

It sounds like your program is the ?patriotic act? for porn. Can?t wait for version 2.

You have a great imagination, but I will let FTP respond.

dcortez · 01-20-2005, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I take it that since you did describe the T3Report as a potentially good tool that you do see the potential...

I did NOT say that. I made a general comment/criticism about the spirit of bad natured product introductions.

I don't know anything about this tool, but I do know that if you are involved with this project in any way, I want nothing to do with it (and I will advise my clients accordingly).

-Dino

(and, please, don't start making quotes about Enron.)

SureFire · 01-20-2005, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You have a great imagination, but I will let FTP respond.

Naw, I just read your responses and assumed. But thanks for saying I have a great imagination, most people say I am to logical.

FightThisPatent · 01-20-2005, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire

Wow! Let me get this right your tracking program is designed to spy on affiliates sending traffic to spot out a Ch*ld P*rn promoter so charge backs won?t happen or help the affiliate to use his traffic more wisely to the sponsor that is using your services or spots that ones traffic is going to another sponsor.

Either way it seems a bit invasive. I thought an affiliate was an independent contractor and at anytime breaking the TOS, the company could cancel the account and the affiliate would forfeit all monies due.

It sounds like your program is the ?patriotic act? for porn. Can?t wait for version 2.

Remember who the user of this report is.. the PAYSITE (in your example)... they are the ones that want to know what their affiliates are doing and if there is bad stuff going on, they are responsible for what happens, despite the 1099 issue (ie. RICO) .

Paysite Owners are telling us that they want to know if bad words are being used by affiliates or traffic being driven to the affiliates.

What's intrusive unless you are promoting CP stuff?? The way it works is a CP website will become an affiliate to a paysite. They will have a website that links clean. They will send out email with a link to a website that describes the CP offering, and tell people that in order to join the CP website, they must go to a webpage that has the affiliate link to a paysite.

once they join, then are told to email the user/pass to the CP website. They will logon to verify for valid account, and then email the person the CP website. The CP website doesn't need CC processing, they use paysite programs to fund their operations.

So with this structure, the affiliate webpage (something that can be scanned by a paysite based on referrers) looks clean, but this webpage washes the traffic, the CP based words are on a web page that link to it.

On the positive side, you could be interested in keywords of "BBW", so the upcoming feature to t3report will allow you to submit keywords that will have webpages and links highlighted that have those keywords.

So whether the subscriber to the report is looking for "child porn or lolita" or looking for "bbw" or "amateur", it's a tool for them.

Fight the CP!

FightThisPatent · 01-20-2005, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dcortez

I don't know anything about this tool, but I do know that if you are involved with this project in any way, I want nothing to do with it (and I will advise my clients accordingly).

hmmm..reminds me of saying that one will cut off their nose to spite their face.

You have a very interesting sense of ethics... whatever your personal issues with baddog, you overshadow the greater good of a business tool designed to help a business maximize their traffic and revenue.

I have faith in business minded people that they will make up their own minds to see the value of a tool or service. Having people recommend something is always a plus, having someone not recommend a product that they admit to know nothing about, solely because they didn't like one of the marketers of the product is sad.

Fight the Issues!

baddog · 01-20-2005, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire

Naw, I just read your responses and assumed. But thanks for saying I have a great imagination, most people say I am to logical.

I get the same complaint, but after over 1,000 hours of logic training it really isn't my fault.

The post where I discussed CP and affiliates that might be scrubbing their traffic sources was a real life situation. But T3Report was not designed specifically to track down affiliates sending fraudulent traffic, it just happened to be one use that I immediately saw for it.

It just so happens that some other major affiliate program owners agreed that this was definitely one way the tool could be put to use.

baddog · 01-20-2005, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dcortez

I don't know anything about this tool, but I do know that if you are involved with this project in any way, I want nothing to do with it (and I will advise my clients accordingly).

Yeah, I can see it now. "I don't know anything about the product, but baddog is somehow involved, so you should stay away."

Not to brag, but I have a sneaky feeling that a lot more people know and trust me than even know you . . . and that includes those that do and do not trust you.

Fight the Idiots With No Noses!!

dcortez · 01-20-2005, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

You have a very interesting sense of ethics...

Thanks. Those who count on me to give them a heads when trouble is potentially around the corner value it as well.

No need to worry about me though - I'm a just small fish in this big pond. Good luck with your tool.

-Dino

baddog · 01-20-2005, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dcortez

Thanks. Those who count on me to give them a heads when trouble is potentially around the corner value it as well.

Would you recognize sarcasm if it knocked you upside the head? He wasn't complimenting you.

I hope your vast stable of "clients" are reading this thread so they know what little value your opinion really holds.

Obviously it is based on personal grudges, rather than knowledge.

BTW, you will be happy to know that I am opening a new blog tomorrow, and I am going to make you a star. You will be quoted a couple times a week most likely.

You do come up with some great material.

Fight the Supreme Court Ruling on Blogs!

dcortez · 01-20-2005, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You do come up with some great material.

Thanks baddog, I do my best.

-Dino

Not Working · 01-20-2005, 09:52 PM

Dino, have you taken them up on their offer to do a free report for you?

I think that this technology is very disruptive for the industry. Imagine this. You're Silvercash and you have a great converting site (Wicked Wendy) and you order this report on your own site. You see that one of your primary affiliates is not only sending traffic to you but he is sending traffic to Lightspeed, your direct competition.

You contact him, offer him more per join and ask him to take the link off of his site for Lightspeed.

What is so dishonest about that?

If you are an affilliate manager and you havent ordered this report on your own sites, you are doing a disservice to your company. Dont you think that the competition has done it already and is probably ordering it on your site as well!

Fight the apathy!

Hung Like Bull · 01-20-2005, 09:59 PM

I'll bump this useless thread for baddog!
Maybe he can fleece enough program owners so he can get out of that $1000 ghetto car he drives and buy a honda civic or somethin'. lol

baddog · 01-20-2005, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by numbersguy

If you are an affilliate manager and you havent ordered this report on your own sites, you are doing a disservice to your company. Dont you think that the competition has done it already and is probably ordering it on your site as well!

Fight the apathy!

hehe - good point there numbersguy.

We actually considered posting a list of companies that have ordered reports on their competitors . . . but did not feel like rustling too many feathers just yet.

However, you can expect some T3Report drama in the very near future.

Fight the Storm Clouds!

FightThisPatent · 01-20-2005, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Hung Like Bull

Maybe he can fleece enough program owners..

I must have missed something here.. how is baddog fleecing program owners when he is promoting *MY* product?

If I don't deliver on the product and runaway with their money, then *I* would be the one fleecing people and baddog would be coming after me to run me over on his Harley.

Fight the Insinuations!

FightThisPatent · 01-20-2005, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

We actually considered posting a list of companies that have ordered reports on their competitors . . . but did not feel like rustling too many feathers just yet.

Many have asked that when a competitor orders a report on them, that if we could notify them.. the answer is no, won't happen.

Fight the Secrets!

Crypt · 01-20-2005, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by numbersguy

Dino, have you taken them up on their offer to do a free report for you?

I think that this technology is very disruptive for the industry. Imagine this. You're Silvercash and you have a great converting site (Wicked Wendy) and you order this report on your own site. You see that one of your primary affiliates is not only sending traffic to you but he is sending traffic to Lightspeed, your direct competition.

You contact him, offer him more per join and ask him to take the link off of his site for Lightspeed.

What is so dishonest about that?

If you are an affilliate manager and you havent ordered this report on your own sites, you are doing a disservice to your company. Dont you think that the competition has done it already and is probably ordering it on your site as well!

Fight the apathy!

The problem is not the tool, ppl can be honest or dishonest with it , like every tools.

The prob is HOW he try to sell it, like fuck your affiliates you dont need them. You can spy your affiliates traffic, and bypass them. You will know from where and how they convert their traffic.

baddog · 01-20-2005, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hung Like Bull

I'll bump this useless thread for baddog!
Maybe he can fleece enough program owners so he can get out of that $1000 ghetto car he drives and buy a honda civic or somethin'. lol

FYI, that is my work truck.

pxxx · 01-20-2005, 10:07 PM

Great idea Baddog, got a lot going on man.

Not Working · 01-20-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Crypt

The problem is not the tool, ppl can be honest or dishonest with it , like every tools.

The prob is HOW he try to sell it, like fuck your affiliates you dont need them. You can spy your affiliates traffic, and bypass them. You will know from where and how they convert their traffic.

I think Baddog backed off of that statement, but none the less, there are program managers/affilliate programs who could chose to use it that way. No affilliate program manager is going to go around a good affiliate and the bad affiliates arent worth going around.

SureFire · 01-20-2005, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FightThisPatent

Remember who the user of this report is.. the PAYSITE (in your example)... they are the ones that want to know what their affiliates are doing and if there is bad stuff going on, they are responsible for what happens, despite the 1099 issue (ie. RICO) .

Paysite Owners are telling us that they want to know if bad words are being used by affiliates or traffic being driven to the affiliates.

What's intrusive unless you are promoting CP stuff?? The way it works is a CP website will become an affiliate to a paysite. They will have a website that links clean. They will send out email with a link to a website that describes the CP offering, and tell people that in order to join the CP website, they must go to a webpage that has the affiliate link to a paysite.

once they join, then are told to email the user/pass to the CP website. They will logon to verify for valid account, and then email the person the CP website. The CP website doesn't need CC processing, they use paysite programs to fund their operations.

So with this structure, the affiliate webpage (something that can be scanned by a paysite based on referrers) looks clean, but this webpage washes the traffic, the CP based words are on a web page that link to it.

On the positive side, you could be interested in keywords of "BBW", so the upcoming feature to t3report will allow you to submit keywords that will have webpages and links highlighted that have those keywords.

So whether the subscriber to the report is looking for "child porn or lolita" or looking for "bbw" or "amateur", it's a tool for them.

Fight the CP!

Maybe this is how you should of announced your tracking software. FIGHT THE Chi** P**n Pushers who are using your site to make money and get away with it plus some added features unlike the first post.

I know I don't promote CP and I honor all TOS with sponsors. However, I do find it intrusive that a sponsor is/can track my moves to where I sending traffic. Funny that when I submit a gallery a bot scans everything submitted and says approved or not, but sponsors need a tool to weed out the bad and monitor the good people.

JMO, I would hire more people to weed out the bad and not rely on a script... From my understanding if a company knows and acts accordingly with independent contractor who is doing wrong, there are no fines or lawsuit issues. However playing dumb is another matter while accepting revnue and paying out...

Good luck and it is not fighting this or that, in this venture your are fighting to take rights away from honest people promoting porn.

baddog · 01-20-2005, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by numbersguy

. No affilliate program manager is going to go around a good affiliate and the bad affiliates arent worth going around.

Bingo . . . .

Crypt · 01-20-2005, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by numbersguy

I think Baddog backed off of that statement, but none the less, there are program managers/affilliate programs who could chose to use it that way. No affilliate program manager is going to go around a good affiliate and the bad affiliates arent worth going around.

Some affiliates manager already fuck affiliates and track adwords campaign from them and do the same. Was already posted there many times.

Like i said, its not a bad tool, its a great tool, but dont say NO ONE will use to fuck affiliates hehe

I think ill order the ifriends report myself, just to look a bit what they do

FightThisPatent · 01-20-2005, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire

1) Maybe this is how you should of announced your tracking software. FIGHT THE Chi** P**n Pushers who are using your site to make money and get away with it plus some added features unlike the first post.

2) I know I don't promote CP and I honor all TOS with sponsors. However, I do find it intrusive that a sponsor is/can track my moves to where I sending traffic. Funny that when I submit a gallery a bot scans everything submitted and says approved or not, but sponsors need a tool to weed out the bad and monitor the good people.

3) JMO, I would hire more people to weed out the bad and not rely on a script... From my understanding if a company knows and acts accordingly with independent contractor who is doing wrong, there are no fines or lawsuit issues. However playing dumb is another matter while accepting revnue and paying out...

4) Good luck and it is not fighting this or that, in this venture your are fighting to take rights away from honest people promoting porn.

1) thanks for the marketing advice, but that's not how this product is positioned, it is a tool, and baddog showed one example, there are many examples

2) if a sponsor wants to spider you, they can do so and has nothing to do with t3report. If t3report spiders the adult web, and brings back collected data that is used by a paysite to do whatever they want with it, that's the Sponsors perogative, so you would have issues with them for using such tools.

3) You must not be a paysite owner then.. hiring more people means spending more money... it makes sense to use technology that is cheaper than hiring more people. You are incorrect about the liabilty as an independent contractor.. if an affiliate is promoting CP, then the federal government could come in with RICO to follow the money trail and take back money that was "ill gotten" from the paysite, so it is a real concern.

4) actually it's the opposite of your viewpoint, a paysite that uses analysis tools like t3report will weed out the bad apples. So if you are running an ethical business, you have nothing to fear, so your concerns seem more conspiracy theory then business reality.

Fight the Conspiracy Theories!

SureFire · 01-20-2005, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Bingo . . . .

I agree but did you read your announcement? A competior who uses your services is not a Bingo.

baddog · 01-20-2005, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire

Maybe this is how you should of announced your tracking software. FIGHT THE Chi** P**n Pushers who are using your site to make money and get away with it plus some added features unlike the first post.

I know I don't promote CP and I honor all TOS with sponsors. However, I do find it intrusive that a sponsor is/can track my moves to where I sending traffic. Funny that when I submit a gallery a bot scans everything submitted and says approved or not, but sponsors need a tool to weed out the bad and monitor the good people.

JMO, I would hire more people to weed out the bad and not rely on a script... From my understanding if a company knows and acts accordingly with independent contractor who is doing wrong, there are no fines or lawsuit issues. However playing dumb is another matter while accepting revnue and paying out...

Good luck and it is not fighting this or that, in this venture your are fighting to take rights away from honest people promoting porn.

With all due respect, you are not getting it. This tool was not built to track down purveyors of CP, it is there to show linking realtionships between sites.

There are literally dozens of uses. It was built for one thing, but as soon as Brandon (FTP) approached me about this, I started coming up with additional uses. Every time either of us talks to a potential client they give us another possible use, or they ask for an additional feature. Some were added immediately, some will be added in the future, and some were wishful thinking on the requestor's part.

The primary purpose for most will be to find out who has links to them that are not sending traffic.

Say you have a link to my AVS buried in some long ago forgotten TGP gallery. I get a report done, and I see you have a link to my AVS, but are not sending me any traffic. I can then approach you and find out what it will take to get you to start promoting me again.

I could also get a report on Cyber-Age. Find out who is linking to them. Usually I will find that the person linked to them is linking to several different AVS's. If I find out they are linking to everyone but me, I can approach them and maybe make them aware of my AVS.

01-20-2005, 05:58 PM	#1
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Attention Affiliate Program Owners and Affiliate Managers I just wanted to take this opportunity to make sure you were all aware that the special introductory pricing for the T3Report ends on January 31. 2005. For the low introductory price of only $150, you will get a monthly report showing you not only every site that has a link to you, but who has a link to them. You will also discover who else they are linking to. "So what?" you might say, "I have traffic logs, I know who is sending me traffic." This may be true, but did it occur to you that you have affiliates that have great potential, but because of their linking relationship to you it is not being realized? You can also find virtual goldmines of potential affiliates when you find out who is sending traffic to your affiliates. You can go after that second level traffic source and perhaps get them to sign up and send their traffic directly to you. Every month for a year you will get an email report showing all the new links that are discovered. With close to 2.5 million unique domains, and more than 90 million URLs in our database we are providing a service that would take you 100's if not 1,000's of hours to research on your own. Combine that with the fact that all links are verified before the report is sent to you, T3Report puts all the other options to shame. Here is another plus. For only $250 we will do the same on any of your competitors. If you are opening a new sponsor program, or even a new TGP and you want to find out where the big boys are getting their traffic, T3Report is for you. If you want to purchase or trade traffic with someone, you can verify the quality of their traffic. We even have special options available where you can provide us with a list of your affiliates and we will spider them for you and will guarantee through a confidentiality agreement to not provide the information to your competitors. Now is the time, get in early before the prices go up on February 1, 2005. This is data that would take you forever to retrieve on your own. Check out our Domain Lookup, and the sample report provided at T3Report.com If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me direct at [email protected] or ICQ 16075497. It will be one of your best investments of 2005.

01-20-2005, 06:02 PM	#4
MikeHawk Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In bed with Harley Girl....Not sleepin Posts: 6,683	Baddog, that is so very cool, I remember when you showed me this way back ...think we might grab this soon. __________________ THE AMBUSH INTERVIEW

01-20-2005, 06:10 PM	#5
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,829	baddog and brandon are a really sexy couple it sounds like a really cool idea and it has the potential to affect the whole adult business. so with that a trained monkey could run a webmaster program (or let me say it that way: he can also be successful now). __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

01-20-2005, 06:23 PM	#8
RP Fade Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,343	T3 is really awesome, detailed and useful. Thanks BD for our report and good luck with it. I'm sure it will do well __________________ HomemadeCash.com - Homemade & GF sites powered by NScash.com HomemadeVideoPass.com - The only all homemade mega site OurHomemadePorno.com - Real couples fucking on camera Contact ICQ: 400-786-531 Email: fade AT nscash.com

01-20-2005, 06:43 PM	#12
ShaneRyale Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 961	Sounds pretty sweet. I'm going to check it out and hit you up. __________________ Shane - Affiliate Manager [email protected] ICQ: 170164556 See Who I Am At AdultWhosWho.com!

01-20-2005, 05:59 PM	#2
Nader Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Los Angeles, Ca Posts: 5,086	sounds good. good luck with it

01-20-2005, 07:05 PM	#17
d00t Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your mind Posts: 3,766	interesting tool....

01-20-2005, 08:09 PM	#22
XpressMedia Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: On Some Beach. Posts: 690	Good luck with it __________________

01-20-2005, 09:52 PM	#36
Not Working Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: L.A. Posts: 225	Dino, have you taken them up on their offer to do a free report for you? I think that this technology is very disruptive for the industry. Imagine this. You're Silvercash and you have a great converting site (Wicked Wendy) and you order this report on your own site. You see that one of your primary affiliates is not only sending traffic to you but he is sending traffic to Lightspeed, your direct competition. You contact him, offer him more per join and ask him to take the link off of his site for Lightspeed. What is so dishonest about that? If you are an affilliate manager and you havent ordered this report on your own sites, you are doing a disservice to your company. Dont you think that the competition has done it already and is probably ordering it on your site as well! Fight the apathy!

01-20-2005, 09:59 PM	#37
Hung Like Bull So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 235	I'll bump this useless thread for baddog! Maybe he can fleece enough program owners so he can get out of that $1000 ghetto car he drives and buy a honda civic or somethin'. lol

01-20-2005, 10:07 PM	#43
pxxx First African GFY Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 12,114	Great idea Baddog, got a lot going on man.