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baddog 01-21-2005 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui
baddog - is this the new stuff you said you were going to release very soon?


No, I have other tricks up my sleeve as well, :)

FightThisPatent 01-21-2005 11:22 AM

My thesis and mantra about SE traffic and linking relationships:


My viewpoint on search engines as a whole, is they are increasing becoming less relevant as SEO folks do their tweaking to try and gain a position in the first 1,000 results (SE limit results to only 1,000 URL) and more importantly, the race to be in the top 25.

Alot of search results are having links at the top that when you click and view them, you wonder "how the f*ck did this page get ranked so high?" ALot of pages aren't even trying to be SE optimized, but are up there.

With my work at t3report.com , i see that traffic flows from website to website as webmasters send traffic around. So when a surfer clicks on a link on a SE result, they have left the SE world and now entered the world of linking relationships. If the surfer doesn't like what you have, you show them banners and links to go elsewhere, you do exit consoles and popups to send them elsewhere.

Webmasters build their linking relationships with other websites in order to move traffic around. This is exacty what t3report.com documents... to show who has those linking relationships. What you do with that information is up to you.

Those that are playing the SEO game have suggested that the report can help them to identify who might be good to establish a linking relationship in order to bolster their PR.

My position is that SE traffic is fine because it is free ,but it's way too competitive for millions of webpages to compete for just the first 25 spots, let alone the top 1,000 results. I see more goldmines in traffic from the hundres of thousands of websites that are getting traffic and you could mine that traffic if you knew where to look.


Fight the being the 1001st SE result!

baddog 01-21-2005 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LeeNoga
So I am the type of affiliate manager where I am always looking to help webmasters who are not converting well, sometimes it is because they are still learning the art of matching their traffic to the best genre site.

I would be interested in the T3 report more so to help webmasters make more sales...and I do not think that is invading anything...


I am willing to bet you are very good at your job.

LeeNoga 01-21-2005 11:44 AM

FTP.

I want to focus on this tool for me...and to help me be the best I can be. I care about webmasters, always have, always will and I really want tools to help them make more sales.

I am sure T3 has alot of benefits from affiliate managers all the way up to management but I am here and I am now wanting to know all the things the report can do for me and my webmasters...

Am I correct that this tool will help me match webmaster traffic better our our site genre's? Have I missed any other benefits?

I am very interested in this.

FightThisPatent 01-21-2005 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeNoga

Am I correct that this tool will help me match webmaster traffic better our our site genre's? Have I missed any other benefits?



We have an upcoming feature that you can give us keywords, and wherever those keywords are found in your t3report, it will be highlighted.

This will allow you to see focus on the niches you are looking to maximize by seeing the webpages that have keywords you want, that drive traffic to your affiliates.

Given this information, you can certainly help your affiliate to promote your other niche sites. You will have more info than they do on their traffic.

They may not have realized that a site linking to them had alot of keywords like "asian girls", and if that affiliate went back to tap into those pages, he could get traffic flowing to him, and from there, he could drive that traffic to one of your "asian girls" paysites.

This feature is about a month away, since we have to integrate our internal search engine with the t3report results.

But for now, you can see which websites are sending traffic to your affiliates, even visit them and check out their pages, as well as seeing where your affiliates are sending there traffic elsewhere (when not sending to you), and be able to use that information to suggest to them where else they can link to.

As Affiliate Managers realize the amount of data that t3report can show them, the more that they can better help their affiliates. Sitting back and letting the affiliates do there own thing is certainly one way to "manage" the affiliates, but being active in helping them to better promote your programs is exactly what i think an Affiliate Manager should be doing.... they just didn't have the tools until now.

Affiliates themselves can order their own t3report on their free sites, and tgp, as well as on some competitors or people that they might want to exchange links with, to get a better view of where traffic is coming from and what traffic could they tap into.


Fight the Traffic, Traffic, Traffic!

LeeNoga 01-21-2005 12:12 PM

FTP & Baddog,

I am very interested in this tool, and see it as a great asset for me to help make webmasters more money. We opened up a tech support Vbulletin at XBangCash, and I can offer them some anaytical feedback if they want it @ ...[xbcwebmasters.com]

Let me review your website, and I will email you.

I am definately "in".

Have a great weekend! :thumbsup

baddog 01-21-2005 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LeeNoga
FTP & Baddog,

I am very interested in this tool, and see it as a great asset for me to help make webmasters more money. We opened up a tech support Vbulletin at XBangCash, and I can offer them some anaytical feedback if they want it @ ...[xbcwebmasters.com]

Let me review your website, and I will email you.

I am definately "in".

Have a great weekend! :thumbsup


Thank you Lee, I think I speak for both of us (FTP and me) when I say we look forward to hearing from you.

You have a great weekend also. :)

gkremen 01-21-2005 01:52 PM

Sex.Com loves T3 reports
 
We have been using these reports. They really help us get clean traffic. They are well worth the subscription price.

FightThisPatent 01-21-2005 02:49 PM

Affiliate Managers or Program owners, feel free to hit me up on ICQ: 52741957 and I can further explain how t3report can help you maximize your existing affiliate wembaster relationships as well as find new sources of affiliates.

Fight the 1-on-1!

SureFire 01-21-2005 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
You are not paying attention. It would be $250 if you get a report on a site other than your own. However, I am afraid that you either don't get it, or have convinced yourself that there is no way that this report can help you. So be it.

The offer Brandon made is on the table, should you change your mind and decide that just maybe there might be something out there you don't know, and you want to see what it is, contact him od me and we will hook you up. :)

Thanks and I sent a client your way...I am not interested and just took the stance of an honest person....contact me if this tool can be applied to mainstream sites.

info AT utraclass.com

SureFire 01-21-2005 10:41 PM

mistake above ^ info At ultraclass.com

baddog 01-21-2005 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire
Thanks and I sent a client your way...I am not interested and just took the stance of an honest person....contact me if this tool can be applied to mainstream sites.

info AT utraclass.com

The T3Report is set up for adult sites, and thanks for the referral.

SureFire 01-21-2005 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
The T3Report is set up for adult sites, and thanks for the referral.

If you get this tool/software to work with mainstream let me know. I have a few clients that would beta test and pay.

Today, when trying to I find things to talk about with my clients, I mentioned a program that could track their competition that was in beta. I was shocked that they were all interested.

I guess there is 99 ways to presents this tool/software. :)

baddog 01-22-2005 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SureFire
If you get this tool/software to work with mainstream let me know. I have a few clients that would beta test and pay.

Today, when trying to I find things to talk about with my clients, I mentioned a program that could track their competition that was in beta. I was shocked that they were all interested.

I guess there is 99 ways to presents this tool/software. :)


ummmm, we have like 90 million URLs in our database. Google has what? 8 BILLION. Yeah, the Internet is huge, I don't know that he has the servers to handle that just yet. But who knows, he will see this thread.

SureFire 01-22-2005 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog
ummmm, we have like 90 million URLs in our database. Google has what? 8 BILLION. Yeah, the Internet is huge, I don't know that he has the servers to handle that just yet. But who knows, he will see this thread.


Sorry if I missed that your tool/software is just a clone of search engine traffic :)

baddog 01-22-2005 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SureFire
Sorry if I missed that your tool/software is just a clone of search engine traffic :)


Not at all, it spiders from a given spot out. I guess if you were talking about a business that wasn't like a pizza chain it would be doable.

But I have my doubts he would do it for $250.

BlueQuartz 01-22-2005 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hung Like Bull
I'll bump this useless thread for baddog!
Maybe he can fleece enough program owners so he can get out of that $1000 ghetto car he drives and buy a honda civic or somethin'. lol


hung like bull has brain like mouse



good look with this guys looks very interesting indeed

:pimp

TheMob 01-22-2005 07:21 PM

sounds very good, but i'm surprised there's no contest!

baddog 01-22-2005 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMob
sounds very good, but i'm surprised there's no contest!


we already had at least one

wargames 01-23-2005 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog
I just wanted to take this opportunity to make sure you were all aware that the special introductory pricing for the T3Report ends on January 31. 2005.

For the low introductory price of only $150, you will get a monthly report showing you not only every site that has a link to you, but who has a link to them. You will also discover who else they are linking to.

"So what?" you might say, "I have traffic logs, I know who is sending me traffic."

This may be true, but did it occur to you that you have affiliates that have great potential, but because of their linking relationship to you it is not being realized?

You can also find virtual goldmines of potential affiliates when you find out who is sending traffic to your affiliates. You can go after that second level traffic source and perhaps get them to sign up and send their traffic directly to you.

Every month for a year you will get an email report showing all the new links that are discovered. With close to 2.5 million unique domains, and more than 90 million URLs in our database we are providing a service that would take you 100's if not 1,000's of hours to research on your own.

Combine that with the fact that all links are verified before the report is sent to you, T3Report puts all the other options to shame.

Here is another plus. For only $250 we will do the same on any of your competitors.

If you are opening a new sponsor program, or even a new TGP and you want to find out where the big boys are getting their traffic, T3Report is for you.

If you want to purchase or trade traffic with someone, you can verify the quality of their traffic.

We even have special options available where you can provide us with a list of your affiliates and we will spider them for you and will guarantee through a confidentiality agreement to not provide the information to your competitors.

Now is the time, get in early before the prices go up on February 1, 2005. This is data that would take you forever to retrieve on your own. Check out our Domain Lookup, and the sample report provided at T3Report.com

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me direct at [email protected] or ICQ 16075497.

It will be one of your best investments of 2005.

Looks good brother. :thumbsup

woj 01-23-2005 01:02 AM

100........

baddog 01-23-2005 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by wargames
Looks good brother. :thumbsup


Thanks, and I am still working on that. One prospect bailed, the second is historically slow :winkwink:

Paul Markham 01-23-2005 04:17 AM

I got bored reading this as there is too much arguing and flaming.

What I'm wondering is the legality of it all.

If site A orders a report on site B too use the information to compete, how close is that to industrial espinage and how long before someone sues somebody?

Looking at their site is fine, SE spiders following the chain seems fine, but ordering that information to use it against a rival company might be a bit too much.

And we know how keen people are to sue each other in the States.

baddog 01-23-2005 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by charly
I got bored reading this as there is too much arguing and flaming.

What I'm wondering is the legality of it all.

If site A orders a report on site B too use the information to compete, how close is that to industrial espinage and how long before someone sues somebody?

Looking at their site is fine, SE spiders following the chain seems fine, but ordering that information to use it against a rival company might be a bit too much.

And we know how keen people are to sue each other in the States.


Do you think Google, MSN, or Alexa should be warming up their attorneys?

FightThisPatent 01-23-2005 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire
Today, when trying to I find things to talk about with my clients, I mentioned a program that could track their competition that was in beta. I was shocked that they were all interested.


The board has been so chatty last couple of days that this thread fell off my screen and i missed your post.

There is a mainstream application here for t3report, though it works a little bit differently.

The concept is called "traffic shaping". One way to apply this is to go advertising agencies like Organic who already have the clients who have a web presence. Let's say Jeep (one of their clients) is the focus of the "traffic shaping".

Organic would provide us with keywords that describe the type of surfer they would be looking to attract (ie. outdoors, rugged, etc).

We do our scouring to pick up websites, blogs, etc... build up a t3report that shows the linking relationships of sites that have those keywords (those that have keywords and link to other related sites, etc).

This analysis then becomes a "map" where organic can advise their client Jeep about where to advertise. The map shows locations of websites that qualitatively match what they are looking for, and by getting a banner or link on those pages (ie. blogs), they tap into the traffic that the website receives, and sends it to them (hence the "traffic shaping" terminology).

The same is true with adult space. The next upgrade to t3report will be to highlight pages and linking relationships where provided words are found. This allows a person to filter/focus on just those traffic flows that have the keywords they are looking to tap into.

The evolution of t3report in the adult space is just like the mainstream offering (which is a couple months away since the focus right now is adult) where rather than having the t3report based on a domain, it's based on keywords, and the resulting report is a "map" of all the linking relationships with the desired keywords.

Already got mainstream interest in the mainstream version of t3report, and will definitely be going in that direction.. for now, proving out the concept in adult to build up the data to show mainstream how traffic flows if they can tap into linking relationships, rather then thinking websites are islands unto themselves, and that SE or type-in traffic is the only way to get people to their website.

Fight the Links!

FightThisPatent 01-23-2005 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by charly
What I'm wondering is the legality of it all.


It's all legal. There are plenty of examples of databases that collect information, where that information is used for many purposes, including competitive intelligence. Hoovers can give you information about a competitor that includes financials, news, executives, etc. Insurance companies gather data about you and sell to others.

If you have a website on the internet, you are allowing visitors to view your publically accessible data. The difference is, most people don't have the technical capability of gathering and synthesizing all the data, which is why t3report.com has been created to help with data gathering to help companies increase revenue.

Affiliate managers can certainly use this tool for "good" in helping to maximize their traffic relationships with existing affiliates.

Competitors could use if for "bad" to entice affiliates to promote a competing website.

How people use this tool is up to them.


Fight the Guns!

baddog 01-23-2005 10:43 PM

FTP and I were talking tonight and came up with something that we had not thought about before.

Say you have a link on thehun, when you get your T3Report you are going to find out every site linked to him by default.

Damn good value for $150

FightThisPatent 01-24-2005 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Say you have a link on thehun, when you get your T3Report you are going to find out every site linked to him by default.


This will change starting on Feb 1st with price increases (end of introductory pricing) and product offering tweaking, to be announced on Feb 1st.

Those that ordered before then will be "grandfathered".


Fight the Countdown!

Paul Markham 01-24-2005 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog
Do you think Google, MSN, or Alexa should be warming up their attorneys?

Google do not spider sites to compete with them, they spider them to show what is on the site.

Yes you can get that information form Google, not sure if it is to the same depth as the T3report.

However ordering a spider on a competitor and using that info to damage his business might just get some lawyer looking at ways to make money.

<sarcasm>We all know how Americans hate litigation.</sarcasm>

Me I would not care, come sue me here. :1orglaugh


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