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pr0view · 11-05-2001, 04:16 AM

did you get some "weird" experience with TB this period? i mean, the conversions got down 2,5 times and they seem to be counting less hits than before...

any input? thanks in advance

jimmy3way · 11-05-2001, 05:24 AM

State of the art shaving software.

And that pesky World Series.

pr0view · 11-05-2001, 05:38 AM

just as i thought... but i wanted to hear an un-biased opinion <sigh>

thanks

ez12 · 11-05-2001, 06:05 AM

they all shave, so that includes TopBucks but I gotta say that they convert great for me !

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Chris R · 11-05-2001, 10:25 AM

Of the three bigger accounts I have about this same this period and last -

1:114 last 1:121 this period.
1:279 last 1:187 this period.
1:165 last 1:213 this period.

Overall 1:181.56 last 1:180.14 this.

TopBucks paid for my rent the entire year last month - so I am pretty happy with them. I seem to be doing better this month with iTeens and worse with UltraVideos, but I know why that is. iTeens and Gaydome are my best overall.

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SleazyDream · 11-05-2001, 02:20 PM

Topbucks throws a bitchin party at Vegas

Allison · 11-05-2001, 02:21 PM

Hi,

I'd like to bring up a couple of points in regards to all these topics mentioned here.

ProOview- there can be various reasons for changes in stats (ie, changes made to site tours, the need to change up the tours, improper linking codes, etc). If you get in touch with me with your account # I can look into your account with more detail and get back to you. Our support team looks into every webmaster question in regards to stats.

Also, it's not fair to say the Jimmy3way's opinion is unbiased. One good reason for his negative opinion may be the fact that he was fired from TopBucks/TopCash.

ez12- TopBucks does not shave. All sales and hits are tracked and included in the stats

Chris R- Thanks for including your opinion. You mentioned that Ultravideos isnt doing so well. Did you try the newest tour? We now have 4 different tours for Ultravideos. The last one we released I think will be our best converter.

Again, please feel free to contact me or [email protected] if anyone would like more info.

Thanks,
Alli

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Marketing & Public Relations
TopBucks.com/TopCash.com
[email protected]

Allison · 11-05-2001, 02:23 PM

Hey SleazyDream,

You up for another party in Vegas?

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Marketing & Public Relations
TopBucks.com/TopCash.com
[email protected]

Chris R · 11-05-2001, 05:39 PM

No - UltraVideos does great for me (it is my best selling TopBucks site) - I simply meant that it wasn't converting as well vs. last period, but that there was a reason for it - the traffic that I am sending is not as good as before (nothing I can do about it at this moment). The traffic I am sending to iTeens is better than it was last month.

Things go up and down, sometimes just because that is the way the cookie crumbles - sometimes other reasons. I love the second tour of UltraVideos and am afraid to switch. I might give it a try. I think I have had at least one sale from every top bucks site except the fetish site (haven't promoted it). The more sites I promote (and this seems to be true for all my sponsors) - the more steady the conversions are overall. I might do worse this month (conversion wise) on UltraVideos, but will do better on iTeens. As long as I make lots of money in the end - that is all I care about.

My conversions overall are very stable - and best of all the sales are great.

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TopBucks.com - Converting at better than 1:130
David Lace Content - Highest Quality Teen Content
ConversionCash.com - Make Money off your WebTV Traffic

jimmy3way · 11-05-2001, 11:34 PM

Duh...everybody on this board knows my ass got booted from TopCash.

Sleazy- You know that last party in Vegas? That was mine. I put that 'ho together from step one. It was my idea, I planned the bitch and I'm happy that it went off well. Did you know there was a write up of that party in SALON.COM? Unfortunately it was two weeks after I got canned, but it was still cool.

Allison - Weren't you the one who was in tears in Vegas? Don't talk to me, I don't even think you really know how TopCash works.

As for shaving...Topcash shaves. They do. They shave, admit it. Be at peace with it. It's a fact. Do you think that sly pop under console shit is legit? Hell no. That was a SHAVE. Those clicks went to DON'S accounts. I know they do, but not more than other programmes.

But the fact is I could give a shit about Topcash, in fact it was a pretty cool place to work. I met a lot of cool people, but more importantly I learned just about all the in's and out's of adult webmastering.

Bottom line: would I rather work at Topcash from 9-5 or sit around my house collecting sponsor checks in my undies...duh. Anyone on this board can answer that question.

Anyway Allison, is it true you only get paid two thirds of my salary for the same job?

[This message has been edited by jimmy3way (edited 11-05-2001).]

SNOW · 11-06-2001, 04:22 AM

Yo jimmy get a hold of me

[email protected]

Topbucks party was cool.. Ws there with da Boneprone children..

the indigo · 11-06-2001, 05:25 AM

jimmy is right. all pps shave anyway, so what's the problem if your stats are up and down like a rollercoaster? You'll NEVER be paid $40 per trial with ANY sponsor. Period. Allison has no idea if topbucks shave or not because barely no one at topbucks or any big sponsor know the scripts used.

The bottom line IS: If you can't get stats directly from the credit card processor: ibill or ccbill, they are shaving.

If the sponsors really wanted to stop this "shaving" thread, they would only give l/p to cc processors sites. But no, they will never do that, because the majority of the webmasters are still thinking they get paid per trial.

pay per click, pay per signup, it's all the same thing: 40-50% shaving in pay per clicks, and 40-50% shaving in pay per signups.

But who gives a fuck if you THINK you're paid per trial... the bottom line is that you will make almost the same money on a dishonest $40 pps or a honest $15-$20 pps.

pr0view · 11-06-2001, 05:32 AM

look, i never meant that to be a pissing match... that's an ugly thing about the GFY board... you ask sth and ppl use your thread to start fighting...

i just wanted another opinion...

allison, i don't have a problem with my account and there is no need that you take time to investigate it closely... it's a matter of conversions, not of missing SUs or sth... thanks anyway

11-05-2001, 04:16 AM	#1
pr0view Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 270	TopBucks? did you get some "weird" experience with TB this period? i mean, the conversions got down 2,5 times and they seem to be counting less hits than before... any input? thanks in advance

11-05-2001, 05:24 AM	#2
jimmy3way Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Top Secret Hideout Posts: 2,508	State of the art shaving software. And that pesky World Series.

11-05-2001, 05:38 AM	#3
pr0view Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 270	just as i thought... but i wanted to hear an un-biased opinion <sigh> thanks

11-05-2001, 06:05 AM	#4
ez12 Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: 388 753 309 Posts: 2,438	they all shave, so that includes TopBucks but I gotta say that they convert great for me ! ------------------ ez12, proud member of the deluxefamily http://www.deluxegirls.com Looking 4 some free content: DeluxeFreeContentPage

11-05-2001, 10:25 AM	#5
Chris R Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 1,151	Of the three bigger accounts I have about this same this period and last - 1:114 last 1:121 this period. 1:279 last 1:187 this period. 1:165 last 1:213 this period. Overall 1:181.56 last 1:180.14 this. TopBucks paid for my rent the entire year last month - so I am pretty happy with them. I seem to be doing better this month with iTeens and worse with UltraVideos, but I know why that is. iTeens and Gaydome are my best overall. ------------------ TopBucks.com - Converting at better than 1:130 David Lace Content - Highest Quality Teen Content ConversionCash.com - Make Money off your WebTV Traffic

11-05-2001, 02:20 PM	#6
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	Topbucks throws a bitchin party at Vegas

11-05-2001, 02:21 PM	#7
Allison Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: http://www.topbucks.com Posts: 2,068	Hi, I'd like to bring up a couple of points in regards to all these topics mentioned here. ProOview- there can be various reasons for changes in stats (ie, changes made to site tours, the need to change up the tours, improper linking codes, etc). If you get in touch with me with your account # I can look into your account with more detail and get back to you. Our support team looks into every webmaster question in regards to stats. Also, it's not fair to say the Jimmy3way's opinion is unbiased. One good reason for his negative opinion may be the fact that he was fired from TopBucks/TopCash. ez12- TopBucks does not shave. All sales and hits are tracked and included in the stats Chris R- Thanks for including your opinion. You mentioned that Ultravideos isnt doing so well. Did you try the newest tour? We now have 4 different tours for Ultravideos. The last one we released I think will be our best converter. Again, please feel free to contact me or [email protected] if anyone would like more info. Thanks, Alli ------------------ Allison Marketing & Public Relations TopBucks.com/TopCash.com [email protected]

11-05-2001, 02:23 PM	#8
Allison Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: http://www.topbucks.com Posts: 2,068	Hey SleazyDream, You up for another party in Vegas? ------------------ Allison Marketing & Public Relations TopBucks.com/TopCash.com [email protected]

11-05-2001, 05:39 PM	#9
Chris R Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Baltimore, MD USA Posts: 1,151	No - UltraVideos does great for me (it is my best selling TopBucks site) - I simply meant that it wasn't converting as well vs. last period, but that there was a reason for it - the traffic that I am sending is not as good as before (nothing I can do about it at this moment). The traffic I am sending to iTeens is better than it was last month. Things go up and down, sometimes just because that is the way the cookie crumbles - sometimes other reasons. I love the second tour of UltraVideos and am afraid to switch. I might give it a try. I think I have had at least one sale from every top bucks site except the fetish site (haven't promoted it). The more sites I promote (and this seems to be true for all my sponsors) - the more steady the conversions are overall. I might do worse this month (conversion wise) on UltraVideos, but will do better on iTeens. As long as I make lots of money in the end - that is all I care about. My conversions overall are very stable - and best of all the sales are great. ------------------ TopBucks.com - Converting at better than 1:130 David Lace Content - Highest Quality Teen Content ConversionCash.com - Make Money off your WebTV Traffic

11-05-2001, 11:34 PM	#10
jimmy3way Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Top Secret Hideout Posts: 2,508	Duh...everybody on this board knows my ass got booted from TopCash. Sleazy- You know that last party in Vegas? That was mine. I put that 'ho together from step one. It was my idea, I planned the bitch and I'm happy that it went off well. Did you know there was a write up of that party in SALON.COM? Unfortunately it was two weeks after I got canned, but it was still cool. Allison - Weren't you the one who was in tears in Vegas? Don't talk to me, I don't even think you really know how TopCash works. As for shaving...Topcash shaves. They do. They shave, admit it. Be at peace with it. It's a fact. Do you think that sly pop under console shit is legit? Hell no. That was a SHAVE. Those clicks went to DON'S accounts. I know they do, but not more than other programmes. But the fact is I could give a shit about Topcash, in fact it was a pretty cool place to work. I met a lot of cool people, but more importantly I learned just about all the in's and out's of adult webmastering. Bottom line: would I rather work at Topcash from 9-5 or sit around my house collecting sponsor checks in my undies...duh. Anyone on this board can answer that question. Anyway Allison, is it true you only get paid two thirds of my salary for the same job? [This message has been edited by jimmy3way (edited 11-05-2001).]

11-06-2001, 04:22 AM	#11
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	Yo jimmy get a hold of me [email protected] Topbucks party was cool.. Ws there with da Boneprone children..

11-06-2001, 05:25 AM	#12
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	jimmy is right. all pps shave anyway, so what's the problem if your stats are up and down like a rollercoaster? You'll NEVER be paid $40 per trial with ANY sponsor. Period. Allison has no idea if topbucks shave or not because barely no one at topbucks or any big sponsor know the scripts used. The bottom line IS: If you can't get stats directly from the credit card processor: ibill or ccbill, they are shaving. If the sponsors really wanted to stop this "shaving" thread, they would only give l/p to cc processors sites. But no, they will never do that, because the majority of the webmasters are still thinking they get paid per trial. pay per click, pay per signup, it's all the same thing: 40-50% shaving in pay per clicks, and 40-50% shaving in pay per signups. But who gives a fuck if you THINK you're paid per trial... the bottom line is that you will make almost the same money on a dishonest $40 pps or a honest $15-$20 pps.

11-06-2001, 05:32 AM	#13
pr0view Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 270	look, i never meant that to be a pissing match... that's an ugly thing about the GFY board... you ask sth and ppl use your thread to start fighting... i just wanted another opinion... allison, i don't have a problem with my account and there is no need that you take time to investigate it closely... it's a matter of conversions, not of missing SUs or sth... thanks anyway