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boneprone · 11-05-2001, 11:18 AM

Looks like Cresent is gunna be having a hard time rebilling their customers now. They have to let them know before the the rebill goes though.. Sucks!

I hope this isnt the wave of the future.
http://money.cnn.com/2001/11/05/news/wires/porn_re/

boneprone · 11-05-2001, 11:21 AM

"Crescent Publishing Group Inc. and 64 affiliated corporations"

Shit I wonder who the other 64 are? 64 is a lot!

Gary · 11-05-2001, 11:23 AM

"The $30 million will be distributed to consumers who have been defrauded by Crescent Publishing.

If that proves impractical, the money will be divided equally between the U.S. Treasury and the State of New York, the FTC said.
"

ROFL!!!

Platinum Dave · 11-05-2001, 11:25 AM

The honest companies will rise to the top,

its becoming more and more that if you play with fire you will get burned.

Alot of programs are playing with Fire, I welcome this move.

Boneprone, I dont think its possible to punish everyone for a few people about the emailing the people for recurring.

Other programs I heard in the same boat.

From what I heard, Max Cash has to do the same thing. This is what someone told me, so I have not confirmed this.

But I hear alot of people bitching about Max Cash conversions lately, maybe that is the reason.

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boneprone · 11-05-2001, 11:31 AM

Isnt it the billing company though? Or is it the company that did this?

Most of us leave this all up to the billing company. Were they doing their own billing?

Or with 64 porn coporations involved, it sounds like a billing compny fucked up and got them all in this mess.

[This message has been edited by boneprone (edited 11-05-2001).]

boneprone · 11-05-2001, 11:38 AM

During the Portland AWE I was talking to the fat Attorney there, and some other webmasters, and we were talking about this one particular billing company.. I forgot which. But I guess they were forced into writng the surfer 2 days before they rebill to let the surfer know that they are gunna be rebilled in 48 hours unless they cancel now..

WTF! There goes a lot of cash.
Im thinking these 64 companies involved here are goign to have to do the same. I think its all on the billing comapny involved here.

Where's Kimmy Kim? Shes the Woman of truth around here! She needs to come speaketh the truth. She always sheds a light of knowlege upon us here.

Let us pray.
Pray that she arrives and shows us the light.

Kimmykim · 11-05-2001, 11:52 AM

I was at the Series, both nites in AZ -- last nite was the most incredible game of anything I've ever seen in my life!

All I can say is read the article closely or go and look at the actual FTC settlement terms if they are up yet.

Y'all know I don't comment directly on other peoples businesses.

sexxx · 11-05-2001, 11:56 AM

If i understood this article right , they have advertised their sites with free memberships , they had a creditcard column just to prove that the customer are of legal age, and they have charged them anyway for 20-90$ recurring. If thats true , then if definitly a big fraud from this company.....

Freeway · 11-05-2001, 12:32 PM

You could see this coming from a mile away.

DarkJedi · 11-05-2001, 12:36 PM

yeah i seen a lot of sponsors claiming that CC will be used ONLY as age verification (which is hard to beleive) - and they bill ppl anyway - thats fucked up.

the indigo · 11-05-2001, 02:41 PM

sounds like porncash... whatever you click in the member area charge you $35...

YoYoBean · 11-05-2001, 02:41 PM

Fuck ppl!!!! have we all forgotten our roots????????? fuck the credit cards...whatever happend to bartering and the gold old reliable honour system?????

BP4L
Family Electee

Theo · 11-05-2001, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by the indigo:
sounds like porncash... whatever you click in the member area charge you $35...

LOL

On-top · 11-05-2001, 03:30 PM

I think Cresent has been dealing with this case for well over a year.

If you had ever visited these sites, it was pretty obvious that these guys were going to run into trouble.

keyko · 11-05-2001, 03:40 PM

I heard A lot of these big paysites make it really hard for visitors to cancel their accounts. maybe they should make that available too.

funkmaster · 11-05-2001, 04:06 PM

agreed keyko, there should be a 880x640 "CANCEL HERE" button on every membersections frontpage !!

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... giving away mass traffic for free !!

MrBrian · 11-05-2001, 10:25 PM

this is WAY OLD news...cresent = vestals

Smitty · 11-06-2001, 12:05 AM

MrBrian - It's about time somebody got in here that knew what they were talking about. I know you know a lot about this as well.

Crescent is NOT a billing company. They are a company who setup a large network of paysites that were completely misleading. You had to enter your credit card # to prove you were over 21 so you could enter the 'free' tour. Then without you knowing they started billing you. Crescent had the largest Adult marketing campaign ever launched. They were doing tens of millions of hits a day.

Trust me here. Them settling for $30 million was a steal. I'm sure they made 100 times that.

Jeff Smith
ICQ#: 7127736

11-05-2001, 11:18 AM	#1
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	CNN Porn News Looks like Cresent is gunna be having a hard time rebilling their customers now. They have to let them know before the the rebill goes though.. Sucks! I hope this isnt the wave of the future. http://money.cnn.com/2001/11/05/news/wires/porn_re/

11-05-2001, 11:21 AM	#2
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	"Crescent Publishing Group Inc. and 64 affiliated corporations" Shit I wonder who the other 64 are? 64 is a lot!

11-05-2001, 11:23 AM	#3
Gary Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kimmykims couch Posts: 6,110	"The $30 million will be distributed to consumers who have been defrauded by Crescent Publishing. If that proves impractical, the money will be divided equally between the U.S. Treasury and the State of New York, the FTC said. " ROFL!!!

11-05-2001, 11:25 AM	#4
Platinum Dave Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,441	The honest companies will rise to the top, its becoming more and more that if you play with fire you will get burned. Alot of programs are playing with Fire, I welcome this move. Boneprone, I dont think its possible to punish everyone for a few people about the emailing the people for recurring. Other programs I heard in the same boat. From what I heard, Max Cash has to do the same thing. This is what someone told me, so I have not confirmed this. But I hear alot of people bitching about Max Cash conversions lately, maybe that is the reason. ------------------ Platinum Bucks Platinum Dialers Cash4Blind VP, Marketing & Operations

11-05-2001, 11:31 AM	#5
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Isnt it the billing company though? Or is it the company that did this? Most of us leave this all up to the billing company. Were they doing their own billing? Or with 64 porn coporations involved, it sounds like a billing compny fucked up and got them all in this mess. [This message has been edited by boneprone (edited 11-05-2001).]

11-05-2001, 11:38 AM	#6
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	During the Portland AWE I was talking to the fat Attorney there, and some other webmasters, and we were talking about this one particular billing company.. I forgot which. But I guess they were forced into writng the surfer 2 days before they rebill to let the surfer know that they are gunna be rebilled in 48 hours unless they cancel now.. WTF! There goes a lot of cash. Im thinking these 64 companies involved here are goign to have to do the same. I think its all on the billing comapny involved here. Where's Kimmy Kim? Shes the Woman of truth around here! She needs to come speaketh the truth. She always sheds a light of knowlege upon us here. Let us pray. Pray that she arrives and shows us the light.

11-05-2001, 11:52 AM	#7
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	I was at the Series, both nites in AZ -- last nite was the most incredible game of anything I've ever seen in my life! All I can say is read the article closely or go and look at the actual FTC settlement terms if they are up yet. Y'all know I don't comment directly on other peoples businesses.

11-05-2001, 11:56 AM	#8
sexxx Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: P Posts: 101	If i understood this article right , they have advertised their sites with free memberships , they had a creditcard column just to prove that the customer are of legal age, and they have charged them anyway for 20-90$ recurring. If thats true , then if definitly a big fraud from this company.....

11-05-2001, 12:32 PM	#9
Freeway Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: EU Posts: 441	You could see this coming from a mile away.

11-05-2001, 12:36 PM	#10
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	yeah i seen a lot of sponsors claiming that CC will be used ONLY as age verification (which is hard to beleive) - and they bill ppl anyway - thats fucked up.

11-05-2001, 02:41 PM	#11
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	sounds like porncash... whatever you click in the member area charge you $35...

11-05-2001, 02:41 PM	#12
YoYoBean Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Back Shed Where Kermit, Elmo and Big Bird Get Stoned! Posts: 429	Fuck ppl!!!! have we all forgotten our roots????????? fuck the credit cards...whatever happend to bartering and the gold old reliable honour system????? BP4L Family Electee

11-05-2001, 03:30 PM	#14
On-top Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: IN Posts: 2,283	I think Cresent has been dealing with this case for well over a year. If you had ever visited these sites, it was pretty obvious that these guys were going to run into trouble.

11-05-2001, 03:40 PM	#15
keyko Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: not telling you Posts: 13	I heard A lot of these big paysites make it really hard for visitors to cancel their accounts. maybe they should make that available too.

11-05-2001, 04:06 PM	#16
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	agreed keyko, there should be a 880x640 "CANCEL HERE" button on every membersections frontpage !! ------------------ Don't innovate - imitate! ... giving away mass traffic for free !!

11-05-2001, 10:25 PM	#17
MrBrian Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,215	this is WAY OLD news...cresent = vestals

11-06-2001, 12:05 AM	#18
Smitty Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Glenwood Springs, Colorado Posts: 10	MrBrian - It's about time somebody got in here that knew what they were talking about. I know you know a lot about this as well. Crescent is NOT a billing company. They are a company who setup a large network of paysites that were completely misleading. You had to enter your credit card # to prove you were over 21 so you could enter the 'free' tour. Then without you knowing they started billing you. Crescent had the largest Adult marketing campaign ever launched. They were doing tens of millions of hits a day. Trust me here. Them settling for $30 million was a steal. I'm sure they made 100 times that. Jeff Smith ICQ#: 7127736