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01-17-2005, 08:28 AM

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I have no idea why, but I woke up thinking about roulette (a game I never played).

I opened this thread with interest until I read this first sentence and I knew not to read any farther....Whatever scheme you have to win at Roulette won't work because I've already tried my own roulette scheme years ago and I've actually played Roulette. So I won't even bother reading your strategy.

And whatever strategy you offered would be cancelled if you hit one of the green zero slots, therefore cancelling any even money bets with red or black that you may have thought up in your head.

And by the way, 50 Roulette suckers.

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01-17-2005, 08:29 AM

I worked with Martingale a bit on pricing derivatives - will do some work on it and post back in this thread
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01-17-2005, 08:30 AM

I will tell you this, the system uses the odds of the board to achive that samething as the Martingale System... Only you are not doubeling your bet every time...
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01-17-2005, 08:31 AM

Originally posted by Pornopat

On the long run you will lose. With or without a table limit.A matter of mathematiacs and odds.

lol thats not true at all

with an unlimited bankroll and no table limit, there is no chance you will lose......on a fair wheel.......

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01-17-2005, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by studio

I will tell you this, the system uses the odds of the board to achive that samething as the Martingale System... Only you are not doubeling your bet every time...

If your system really worked, you woudn't be posting here now.
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01-17-2005, 08:39 AM

Ok, Just for my GFY friends... Here is the Deal... If 50 of you will agree to join my program and promote my site pineapplepink.com for a month to see how it does for you. I will put the system on a webpage and share it with all that agree to promote my site.

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01-17-2005, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by BVF

I opened this thread with interest until I read this first sentence and I knew not to read any farther....Whatever scheme you have to win at Roulette won't work because I've already tried my own roulette scheme years ago and I've actually played Roulette. So I won't even bother reading your strategy.

And whatever strategy you offered would be cancelled if you hit one of the green zero slots, therefore cancelling any even money bets with red or black that you may have thought up in your head.

And by the way, 50 Roulette suckers.

Well in a way, the same idea could be applied to other games. I never played roulette and probably never will, but let's take blackjack.

Now unless you are a bad player, you can normally win one hand in five. Out of all the blackjack I've played, I've never lost more than 3 hands in a row. OFCOURSE it is possible, just it's never happened to me.

So, assuming table limits allow it, if you use the same idea I wrote, you will come out a winner in BJ too.

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01-17-2005, 08:42 AM

Whatever scheme you have to win at Roulette won't work because I've already tried my own roulette scheme years ago

hahahaha this made me laugh so much......

that probably isnt the reason why it wont work

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01-17-2005, 08:42 AM

Martingale systems I googled seem just basic double ups - not generated processes...

Problem for roulette is that the Expected Value (EV) of your return is lower anything you lay on the board due to the table's margin.

For example betting on black vs white.

Return 2:1
Odds of winning 0.47 (say...)

EV on a $100 bet is therefore $94 (200 x .47) which is less than what u paid. Betting strategies can't get around this as you can resolve any betting strategy down to individual bets. Blackjack betting boils down to counting cards until the EV of your bet is higher than your stake and then uping your bet dramatically - but you still need that odds advantage.

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01-17-2005, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by studio

Ok, Just for my GFY friends... Here is the Deal... If 50 of you will agree to join my program and promote my site pineapplepink.com for a month to see how it does for you. I will put the system on a webpage and share it with all that agree to promote my site.

Start a list in this thread...

dont you know when to give up, either post it or fuck off. People arent going to waste their time when the likelyhood is the sytem doesnt work.....

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01-17-2005, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by dudus

For example betting on black vs white.

I dont think you have much of a chance betting on white

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01-17-2005, 08:47 AM

OK, You winers... I'll put it on a Fucking web page for you all... All I'm asking is If it works... Join my Program and send some fucking traffic to the Girls of Pineapplepink!

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01-17-2005, 08:47 AM

Oops! You got me dude... that's why I always get creamed
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01-17-2005, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by studio

OK, You winers... I'll put it on a Fucking web page for you all... All I'm asking is If it works... Join my Program and send some fucking traffic to the Girls of Pineapplepink!

I'll post a link here in a little bit...

thats more like

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01-17-2005, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by DarkJedi

Wrong.
On roulette, you always get a 50/50 chance.

It's very possible to get 20 blacks in a row.
It's always a 50/50 chace.

Wrong, the 0 and 00 lower it off a 50/50 chance for a black or red to come up

Also here's the major flaw with the system in this thread. Ask yourself this, Are you willing to loose 31k (in the mentioned example) to win 1,000?

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01-17-2005, 08:51 AM

This thread give anyone else a boner?
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01-17-2005, 08:54 AM

well i hear alotta ppl throwing systems in the trash, and with the exception of the ones who actually tried it they just think it cant be done without any reason. I like that playing on the 3rds one.. when i got enough cash im gonna try some shit
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01-17-2005, 09:16 AM

I think Dostoievski came up with that theory when he wrote "The Gambler" (I'm not sure if that's the name in english).

I'm just a newbie.
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01-17-2005, 09:18 AM

That's a Martingale system. That's why casino limits the max bet.

You can't win without just a luck, forget about it...
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01-17-2005, 09:23 AM

nico-t,

Don't try it... I'm telling you it will not work...

Almost done with the webpage with the only system that will work...
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01-17-2005, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by nico-t

well i hear alotta ppl throwing systems in the trash, and with the exception of the ones who actually tried it they just think it cant be done without any reason.

Totally wrong. What is actually happening is they have the intelligence to know the reason(s) already.

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01-17-2005, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by DarkJedi

Wrong.
On roulette, you always get a 50/50 chance.

It's very possible to get 20 blacks in a row.
It's always a 50/50 chace.

Exactly... it has nothing to do with how many turns you keep trying... odds don't work that way... it's always 48% it will hit black or red.

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01-17-2005, 09:31 AM

Sigh, this thread is for the mathematically challenged, and it's got nothing to do with table limits.

The series of bets boils down to betting whether your colour will come up BEFORE you run out of money. It boils down to this bet here: You have $15 in your pocket. You bet 15$ ($1-$2-$4-$8) that in the next 4 spins red will come up (at least once). If it does you win $1 (wow!), if 4 non-reds come up, you lose $15.

Do you take the bet? Answer: No, of course not.

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01-17-2005, 09:33 AM

OK, should I put the link to the system in the affiliates area of pineapplecash...? Or will you all hold up your end and join and send traffic to my site...
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01-17-2005, 09:37 AM

Originally posted by studio

OK, should I put the link to the system in the affiliates area of pineapplecash...? Or will you all hold up your end and join and send traffic to my site...

i will join if it seems like it might work...

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01-17-2005, 09:39 AM

i dont think I would try, i like my sports betting

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01-17-2005, 09:40 AM

The martingale system. I've used this method three times online. First time I lost 1+2+4+8+16+32+64 for a total of $127 after just a few minutes of playing. I tried the method again online two more times and came away up over $300 both times before I quit. Both winning days took many, many hours of play though since the original unit was only $1.

The speed of a physical casino prevents you from using this system with small bets, so you need the speed of online casinos. It's certainly not solid enough to take to the high rollers table either.

I wrote a program once that simulated this system, and over the long term you'll ALWAYS be the loser.
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01-17-2005, 09:41 AM

I know it works... took 3 years of wed. nights after work and a lot of beer to figure it out... This is the simples version... We call it the Denric23 I have others versions that you win more on... but those not 100% bullet proof like Denric23.
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01-17-2005, 09:45 AM

It's up loading now....
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01-17-2005, 09:48 AM

Maybe I'll post it in a new thread?
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01-17-2005, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by studio

I know it works... took 3 years of wed. nights after work and a lot of beer to figure it out... This is the simples version... We call it the Denric23 I have others versions that you win more on... but those not 100% bullet proof like Denric23.

Roulette is just grade 12 math guys - do the math, the house wins - no "system" involving changing the size of your bets (or the colour) at certain times can change that.

The only "system" that works with roulette involves high speed cameras that capture where and when the ball is released and at what speed, and then a computer to calculate the most likely area the ball will stick. Now that's a fucking "system".
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01-17-2005, 10:02 AM

I don't know roulette. Here's what I do know.

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01-17-2005, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by Varius

Well in a way, the same idea could be applied to other games. I never played roulette and probably never will, but let's take blackjack.

Now unless you are a bad player, you can normally win one hand in five. Out of all the blackjack I've played, I've never lost more than 3 hands in a row. OFCOURSE it is possible, just it's never happened to me.

So, assuming table limits allow it, if you use the same idea I wrote, you will come out a winner in BJ too.

You've obviously havent played much blackjack. I've spent hundreds upon hundreds of hours in casinos playing, can count most dealers, been asked to leave a few casinos, and 75% of the time I can walk away up and there have been PLENTY of times I've lost more than 3 hands in a row. Probably hundreds of times.

To settle this, BETTING STRATEGIES DO NOT WORK (unless you're counting cards on BJ), especially in roulette. The game has no memory from one spin to the other. Your probabilities of winning/losing are the same from one spin to the next, same thing with dice. BTW, besides slot machines and that dumbass money wheel, the roulette tables have the worst odds of any game in the casino.
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01-17-2005, 10:52 AM

i always walk into Ceasars Palace, The Bellagio or Mandalay Bay, thinking "gee, know something no one else knows because i am smarter than everyone else and there are no brighter mathematicians over the last 50 years who had the idea to try to win money in Vegas by beating the casino with a "system". i am really lucky to be me"

get real people.
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01-17-2005, 10:55 AM

rule number 1 of gambling:

"All casinos are stupid. anyone can beat them, and you certainly can... just be persistent and keep trying to refine your "system"
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01-17-2005, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by CoolE

Roulette is just grade 12 math guys - do the math, the house wins - no "system" involving changing the size of your bets (or the colour) at certain times can change that.

The only "system" that works with roulette involves high speed cameras that capture where and when the ball is released and at what speed, and then a computer to calculate the most likely area the ball will stick. Now that's a fucking "system".

and a certain way to get thrown out of any casino, and beaten up for hours for the trouble

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01-17-2005, 11:08 AM

Originally posted by Varius

Well in a way, the same idea could be applied to other games. I never played roulette and probably never will, but let's take blackjack.

Now unless you are a bad player, you can normally win one hand in five. Out of all the blackjack I've played, I've never lost more than 3 hands in a row. OFCOURSE it is possible, just it's never happened to me.

So, assuming table limits allow it, if you use the same idea I wrote, you will come out a winner in BJ too.

Not at all. You're comparing a game that is solely based on random chance vs. a game that is based on strategy and math and chance. Everybody that knows gambling knows that BJ is the ONLY game in the whole fucking casino where somebody that is good at math or card counting can beat the casino because the player is only at a 1% and change disadvantage with Blackjack.

Tell me some of this after you've actually hit a table and won some money...It sounds great sitting at home on your computer...But go in that casino and start losing some money and then come back.

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01-17-2005, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by Varius

turn1: -$1000
turn2: -$2000
turn3: -$4000
turn4: -$8000
turn5: +$16000
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total: +$1000

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01-17-2005, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by evanmorgan

hahahaha this made me laugh so much......

that probably isnt the reason why it wont work

It is the reason because I've played roulette and he hasn't...And I wasted countless brain hours on trying to figure out a system to beat roulette and you can't do it. No matter what you think or how smart you think you are because your brain has nothing to do with roulette.

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01-17-2005, 11:10 AM

even with a big bankroll to handle long losing streaks, the fact remains that you are putting down huge sums to overcome losing that first bet. laying down $16,000 or $32K or $64K to get back your original $1K bet is stupid.

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01-17-2005, 11:12 AM

You can get 5-6 blacks in a row while betting on red

I read about this 2 years ago

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01-17-2005, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by DarkJedi

If you have a system that "works" why do you need to make a site and sell memberships ?

To cover the money he lost in a casino
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01-17-2005, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by simple simon

1 word

GREEN

irrelevant. Green = losing. So you double up.

But here's a clue: CASINO'S KNOW. They'll kick you out. Especially at the point where you're down a lot.
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01-17-2005, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by hyper

play the thirds

$100 1st 3rd
$100 2nd 3rd
pays 2 to 1 so u get $200 + $100 = $300

play the opposite if where the ball lands on the previous spin

This is what i do... I made 5k in one night doing this in Vegas. But then I came back home and tried again on a casino boat and lost my ass!
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01-17-2005, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by BVF

Not at all. You're comparing a game that is solely based on random chance vs. a game that is based on strategy and math and chance. Everybody that knows gambling knows that BJ is the ONLY game in the whole fucking casino where somebody that is good at math or card counting can beat the casino because the player is only at a 1% and change disadvantage with Blackjack.

Tell me some of this after you've actually hit a table and won some money...It sounds great sitting at home on your computer...But go in that casino and start losing some money and then come back.

Actually, everytime I played BJ in Vegas I walked away with cash. I didn't lose a cent at even one session of BJ all week.

I didn't use the above system at all, but I think it would do well in BJ...especially because I was playing single-deck, which I find is the easiest of all BJ to win

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01-17-2005, 04:56 PM

I gotta come in here on the roulette system, I tried all systems their is on that game and sooner or later you loose. Double up on evens - call it whatever you want, will always get you. You either get to the house limit before your color comes in, or worse you hit a zero (only 1 in rapid roulette) and they take half your stake on the even colors. This is about the worst fucking system their is, for a game that is about the worst game in the house from the point of view of the player. My advise,is play it for fun, with small stakes, you can actually win alot really fast. Their is NO system at all with roulette. I have seen black come up 12 or 15 times in a row. The mugs pile their money on red thinking "it has to come in" it doesent. Each spin is totally independant of the other. If you wanna win and have alot of time to spare stiick to bjack, or learn to play a good hand of poker. Even then with all the luck in world, everyone who enters a casino is soon or later doomed.
Myself these days I play the dogs, grey hound racing. N over all im up around 16k over the past 6 months. Plus I love the way those fuckers run.
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01-20-2005, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by solonline

I gotta come in here on the roulette system, I tried all systems their is on that game and sooner or later you loose. Double up on evens - call it whatever you want, will always get you. You either get to the house limit before your color comes in, or worse you hit a zero (only 1 in rapid roulette) and they take half your stake on the even colors. This is about the worst fucking system their is, for a game that is about the worst game in the house from the point of view of the player. My advise,is play it for fun, with small stakes, you can actually win alot really fast. Their is NO system at all with roulette. I have seen black come up 12 or 15 times in a row. The mugs pile their money on red thinking "it has to come in" it doesent. Each spin is totally independant of the other. If you wanna win and have alot of time to spare stiick to bjack, or learn to play a good hand of poker. Even then with all the luck in world, everyone who enters a casino is soon or later doomed.
Myself these days I play the dogs, grey hound racing. N over all im up around 16k over the past 6 months. Plus I love the way those fuckers run.

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01-20-2005, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by [illnet]-Romeo

Wrong, the 0 and 00 lower it off a 50/50 chance for a black or red to come up

Also here's the major flaw with the system in this thread. Ask yourself this, Are you willing to loose 31k (in the mentioned example) to win 1,000?

You got a very valid point there, it isn't worth the risk at all.

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01-20-2005, 09:48 AM

So where is this casion site you wanted to post mr pink? ;)

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01-20-2005, 09:49 AM

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Ok, Just for my GFY friends... Here is the Deal... If 50 of you will agree to join my program and promote my site pineapplepink.com for a month to see how it does for you. I will put the system on a webpage and share it with all that agree to promote my site.

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For someone who knows the secret to unlimited money you seem quite desperate for new affiliates.

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