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Casino strategy to win $1000 easily, can you see any flaws?

01-17-2005, 07:24 AM

I have no idea why, but I woke up thinking about roulette (a game I never played).

The thought was this:

Table limits - $1000 min, $100000 max (do such tables exist?)

Pick your color, red or black.

Bet $1000 on that color. If you lose, bet double the amount, again on that color. If you lose, bet double on that color again. Keep doing this until your color comes up and you win $1000 overall.

Example, let's say you pick black and black hits on the 5th bet:

turn1: -$1000
turn2: -$2000
turn3: -$4000
turn4: -$8000
turn5: +$16000
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total: +$1000

Now if the table max is $100,000 that means you can only get 7 turns though (your 7th bet will be $64000).

I'd say your odds on hitting your color in 7 turns are almost as good as you can get though compared to any casino game. If there are tables with $1000 min and higher max, then you can get maybe an 8th or 9th turn as well.

The two issues I see with this theory are the following:

1) You have to have enough cash to keep doubling
2) You can still lose if your color never comes up in 7+ turns

What do you guys think ?

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01-17-2005, 07:26 AM

It sounds too easy !!! Pretty sure there is something wrong in this !

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01-17-2005, 07:26 AM

Isn't there some odd color on the roulette wheel that skews the odds against that method?

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01-17-2005, 07:28 AM

Exactly for this reason there are always table limits
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01-17-2005, 07:30 AM

You will win in the beginning but end up losing everything you got AT LEAST if you think you have a system... I've seen people who wait for 3 or 4 blacks or reds to come out in a row and only then start betting against it. There are many ways to go about it, and I can tell you that everyone who plays the game has some sort of a winning system. Problem is, most of the times it ends up being a very advanced LOSING SYSTEM for most people
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01-17-2005, 07:31 AM

Most tables have a green Zero and Double Zero space, so your odds are actually less than 50/50, they are more like about a 42% chance you'll win with just guessing a color. So, while in 7 turns you are still likely to hit it once, there is plenty of chance you won't too. But I'd love to try it and see how it worked out!

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01-17-2005, 07:31 AM

well of course, but you have to have nerves of steel and a massive bank roll. I tried a system like that on the greyhounds once, just back the favourite until it wins, keep doubling your stake and adding your previous losses or something. It won at first, but i had one night where 7 in a row didnt win, by the 8th i had no money left......

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01-17-2005, 07:32 AM

Just don't try this online.
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01-17-2005, 07:33 AM

This is the exact strategy I use, I pick a color before I go inside and never change my
decision. The thing is, you can be taken for a long ride, so make sure you come with
alot of money if you are hoping to hit it.

I went from:

50.00 on black - lost
100.00 on black - lost
200.00 on black - lost
400.00 on black - lost
800.00 on black - lost
1,600.00 on black - lost

I didnt have enough to double up so i was taken for over 3k

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01-17-2005, 07:38 AM

In theory, it works, but most casinos put low limits on roulette tables for this very reason.

Also, with roulette, if the house has ANY way of rigging the outcome of a spin, you can bet yer ass they will do it when a huge amount of $ is on the line. so it may just be more likely than not to "spin" red 15 times in a row, if you get my drift.
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01-17-2005, 07:40 AM

you have to remember it isnt dependant on each other so your probability doesnt rise.

Some wheels have one non black or red slot, some have 2.

With 1 non red or black slot there is 48.64864 chance that you will win

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01-17-2005, 07:41 AM

Originally posted by psili

Isn't there some odd color on the roulette wheel that skews the odds against that method?

Yep, 0, and 00 are green.

Table limits too.
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01-17-2005, 07:41 AM

That will not work! You will lose your ass and the farm... There is only one system that will beat the wheel... and that is not it...
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01-17-2005, 07:41 AM

I'd rather play a game where i get to think a little and have more control over winning like poker or blackjack vs. a ball rolling around a wheel and randomly falling on a color or number. There is a reason why roulette has the worst odds of any casino game.
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01-17-2005, 07:42 AM

On the long run you will lose. With or without a table limit.A matter of mathematiacs and odds.

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01-17-2005, 07:44 AM

I have been thinking of doing a site to teach the only system that will work... would your guys promote it?
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01-17-2005, 07:47 AM

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01-17-2005, 07:47 AM

Originally posted by DarkJedi

In theory, it works, but most casinos put low limits on roulette tables for this very reason.

Also, with roulette, if the house has ANY way of rigging the outcome of a spin, you can bet yer ass they will do it when a huge amount of $ is on the line. so it may just be more likely than not to "spin" red 15 times in a row, if you get my drift.

I dont think that casinos have to rig anyting to get your money even if a lot is at stake. The house edge will almost always win out. These "beat the house" type of schemes is what keeps them in business. Its all about quitting while your ahead.
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01-17-2005, 07:47 AM

I have played this system in the casino a few times, just to try it out.

Results were not good, roulette is too much of an unpredictable game to do this. I ended up with a fucked system as it hit 11 times black in a row

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01-17-2005, 07:47 AM

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01-17-2005, 07:48 AM

I'm willing to bet if you talked to a casino, they would let you go over 100k mark... because at some point the 0 would get you...

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01-17-2005, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by Varius

I have no idea why, but I woke up thinking about roulette (a game I never played).

The thought was this:

Table limits - $1000 min, $100000 max (do such tables exist?)

Pick your color, red or black.

Bet $1000 on that color. If you lose, bet double the amount, again on that color. If you lose, bet double on that color again. Keep doing this until your color comes up and you win $1000 overall.

Example, let's say you pick black and black hits on the 5th bet:

turn1: -$1000
turn2: -$2000
turn3: -$4000
turn4: -$8000
turn5: +$16000
-------------------
total: +$1000

Now if the table max is $100,000 that means you can only get 7 turns though (your 7th bet will be $64000).

I'd say your odds on hitting your color in 7 turns are almost as good as you can get though compared to any casino game. If there are tables with $1000 min and higher max, then you can get maybe an 8th or 9th turn as well.

The two issues I see with this theory are the following:

1) You have to have enough cash to keep doubling
2) You can still lose if your color never comes up in 7+ turns

What do you guys think ?

This does NOT work... trust me on this.

A few years ago one of my brilliant friends tried this exact thing and nearly lost his shirt. He started at $5 and after a few wins it went black (he was betting red obviously) for something like 9 times in a row. When you do the math that was $2500 approx he had on the table.

Theories like this always sound good on paper, but in reality each roll/game is 50/50 red/black (ok, not exactly 50/50 with the 2 green squares) ... so the odds of it going red or black 9 or 10 times in a row isn't nearly as hard as the math would suggest.

Just walk around a few roulette tables one night and you'll see it going one way 6,7,8 times in a row pretty frequently.

The ONLY way to do this is to have a HUGE bankroll when you start and begin with a $5 bet .. that way if it goes 10 in a row against you, you have at least $5000+ ready. The logic of the casino is, no one with $5-10K available is going to waste time on $5 bets...

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01-17-2005, 07:52 AM

What an dumb ass idiot,
on some tables there is no maximum bet so it would make you strategy even better right?
The only thing is that one color can come up 15-20 times or why not 30 times. there have been wise guys losing millions on that strategy.

That's the oldest strategy in the gambling bizz, thank you genius!

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01-17-2005, 07:53 AM

FAR too high a chance of hitting a long losing streak of the wrong colour. The theory sounds good until you start multiplying things by two for long enough. You'd need more or less an infinite bank roll for this to make a profit over any length of time.

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01-17-2005, 07:53 AM

play the thirds

$100 1st 3rd
$100 2nd 3rd
pays 2 to 1 so u get $200 + $100 = $300

play the opposite if where the ball lands on the previous spin
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01-17-2005, 07:54 AM

try it out, i was scream double 0 at the mgm during internext and ppl loved it

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01-17-2005, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by Kevsh

This does NOT work... trust me on this.

A few years ago one of my brilliant friends tried this exact thing and nearly lost his shirt. He started at $5 and after a few wins it went black (he was betting red obviously) for something like 9 times in a row. When you do the math that was $2500 approx he had on the table.

Theories like this always sound good on paper, but in reality each roll/game is 50/50 red/black (ok, not exactly 50/50 with the 2 green squares) ... so the odds of it going red or black 9 or 10 times in a row isn't nearly as hard as the math would suggest.

Just walk around a few roulette tables one night and you'll see it going one way 6,7,8 times in a row pretty frequently.

The ONLY way to do this is to have a HUGE bankroll when you start and begin with a $5 bet .. that way if it goes 10 in a row against you, you have at least $5000+ ready. The logic of the casino is, no one with $5-10K available is going to waste time on $5 bets...

Of course it not work, how smart you have to be to invent strategy like that. Like I said thats the oldest strategy in the bizz. Only newbies are still inventing it.

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01-17-2005, 07:58 AM

There's a version where you only set out to make $x per roll that's more effective but even that suffers from the same problem ie a long losing streak making stakes HUGE.

Here's a question for you...if it were really that simply don't you thing that all the casions would be bankrupt and everyone would be using it?

Amazes me that people think any roulette, be it online or 'real', would need to cheat. The odds are so good for the house especially considering the way many bet that it's far more profitable to be honest. That way you sucker them in with the odd win and they come back for more and more.

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01-17-2005, 07:58 AM

Sorry Guys, you will lose your ass with this system too...

play the thirds

$100 1st 3rd
$100 2nd 3rd
pays 2 to 1 so u get $200 + $100 = $300

play the opposite if where the ball lands on the previous spin

I'm sorry there is only one system that will work... Will you guys promote the site if I reviel the system in it and have an affiliate program?
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01-17-2005, 08:00 AM

Table limits kill it!

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01-17-2005, 08:01 AM

Thanks for the input guys....I never bothered playing roulette, I stick to Blackjack and Poker, so I've never been witness to a single color hitting 5-10 times in a row.

I know its possible, since each spin your odds are always ~48% (I'm not one fo those thinking if it hit red 3 times it has higher odds to hit black now), but I figrued I'd see what people here think.

Also the key is to stop as soon as you hit it, so you walk away a winner. If you just win once per day, that $1000 isnt too bad for maybe 30 mins of your time.

I figured that casinos must set the table limits according with these kinds of strategies though.

Blackjack is still the best winner for me

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01-17-2005, 08:02 AM

Its just stats. The basic bet you suggested boils down to

3 % you lose $32,000

97% you win $1,000

Acutally its a couple of percent worse as its not a true 50:50 bet (the casino has a margin)

Doesn't sound like a bet I'd take.

Also - because of the casino's margin if you replay this bet enough you are guaranteed to lose.
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01-17-2005, 08:02 AM

Table limits don't affect my system... and you don't need thousands of dollars to use it.
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01-17-2005, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by studio

Sorry Guys, you will lose your ass with this system too...

play the thirds

$100 1st 3rd
$100 2nd 3rd
pays 2 to 1 so u get $200 + $100 = $300

play the opposite if where the ball lands on the previous spin

I'm sorry there is only one system that will work... Will you guys promote the site if I reviel the system in it and have an affiliate program?

If you have a system that "works" why do you need to make a site and sell memberships ?
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01-17-2005, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by DarkJedi

If you have a system that "works" why do you need to make a site and sell memberships ?

I was thinking the same

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01-17-2005, 08:08 AM

Originally posted by dudus

Its just stats. The basic bet you suggested boils down to

3 % you lose $32,000

97% you win $1,000

Wrong.
On roulette, you always get a 50/50 chance.

It's very possible to get 20 blacks in a row.
It's always a 50/50 chace.
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01-17-2005, 08:09 AM

Originally posted by Varius

Casino strategy to win $1000 easily, can you see any flaws?

The problem? Confusing 'statistical probability' with 'certainty'.

eg. One in Fifty could take 10,000 cycles to average out and there is always the chance of a long streak which defies the odds (at least long enough till your wallet is empty).

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01-17-2005, 08:09 AM

Well, it's like this... With the system you win back ever thing you lost, plus a profit of between $67.00 and $103.00 every time you win. You would have to spend a lot of time in the casinos. I use the system when ever I go to Vegas, It paid for my trip to internext. I just feel I could make more with the site...
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01-17-2005, 08:09 AM

studio - there is most definitely no system that works with roulette
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01-17-2005, 08:12 AM

No wonder my post count don't go up... Look at my post counts in this thread...
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01-17-2005, 08:13 AM

dudus, Care to put your money where your mouth is?
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01-17-2005, 08:14 AM

Now here is something interesting to add:

In school once, we had to flip a coin and record the heads or tails (do this 500 times). Results came out almost even (I think it was 48% and 52%). Now it is possible one or the other could have came up much more than the other, since each flip is individual odds.

ie. heads could have come up 50 times in a row, but as I remember it didnt. I just tried now in 10 times, got heads 6 tails 4. The most that came up was heads 3 times in a row.

Anyhow just adding this to the thread, I know it still doesnt make the above have any better odds to win heh ;p

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01-17-2005, 08:16 AM

Damn right I'd put my money there - u gotta show that it has a statistical edge. Blackjack, with work and a team - yes.l Roulette - no no no
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01-17-2005, 08:17 AM

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01-17-2005, 08:18 AM

How much do you want to loose?
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01-17-2005, 08:19 AM

your shout big fella
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01-17-2005, 08:25 AM

Dudus, How much traffic could you send my site if I win? Maybe we can bet my money against your traffic? I'd rather have your traffic than your money...
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01-17-2005, 08:25 AM

BTW, it's called the Martingale System. Google it.
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01-17-2005, 08:26 AM

common dude post the damn thing. Not trying to piss on you, I love running stats on gambling strategies - haven't done it for ages so I got blue balls here!
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01-17-2005, 08:28 AM

Gotta say my traffic sucks was doing $9k per month on Google until the algo changed in Sept now fucking zilch - I just log in for a laugh now and again.
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