SEO Friendly Affiliate Programs - Part II - GoFuckYourself.com

baddog · 01-16-2005, 07:13 PM

As announced the other day, AdultSEM.com has launched their Adult SEO Blog.

Today we present part two of a continuing series, SEO Friendly Affiliate Programs. - Learn how to make your links more effective, and for affiliate program owners, how to help your affiliates help you as well as themselves.

If you have not read part one, The SEO "Rebound Effect" you owe it to yourself to read it now.

This is one blog I recommend bookmarking and checking back daily.

goodgirl · 01-16-2005, 08:20 PM

Thanks again

jt420 · 01-16-2005, 08:29 PM

excellent page if i say so again.

XPays · 01-16-2005, 08:30 PM

http://XPays.com affiliate links are search engine friendly.

radical · 01-16-2005, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

As announced the other day, AdultSEM.com has launched their Adult SEO Blog.

Today we present part two of a continuing series, SEO Friendly Affiliate Programs. - Learn how to make your links more effective, and for affiliate program owners, how to help your affiliates help you as well as themselves.

If you have not read part one, The SEO "Rebound Effect" you owe it to yourself to read it now.

This is one blog I recommend bookmarking and checking back daily.

Some good info on the blog

goodgirl · 01-16-2005, 08:38 PM

Thank you

I plan on keeping up with this series for a little longer. Try to give out as much help as I can to both Affiliate Programs and Affiliates.

Kevsh · 01-16-2005, 08:49 PM

Great read, thanks!

I have a related question from this article: Do any sponsors or programs exlude hits from Flash apps or other automated links? Can they?

The reason I ask is that I have a Flash app that automates a click to a sponsor. It is not misleading - it takes the visitor exactly where they want. I just started this a week or so ago and it seems for a few programs the hit count is down, others unchanged. I don't know enough about various sponsors software (there are many, a lot proprietary) to conclude whether it's possible to exclude or not?

For example, in a typical log file a "hit" coming from a standard link on a web page shows up with the referrer, etc., but what about "virtual" clicks from a Flash or Java app? If a logging program handles and reports it differently, I assume so can aff. programs ...

(Oh, I do have a plain text link for those that don't have Flash so I don't see that being a big factor in a reduced hit count.)

Anyone know for certain?

(And for the curious, the Flash app was put in as a test to recored outbound hits on free hosts ... i know there are many ways to do this, but that's for another thread)

goodgirl · 01-16-2005, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays

http://XPays.com affiliate links are search engine friendly.

Yes they are. That could be good and bad. Depends on the affiliate ;)

If you make each landing page unique some how, that would make it REALLY good for your sites.

Pornwolf · 01-16-2005, 08:54 PM

Very nice Baddog!

baddog · 01-16-2005, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Very nice Baddog!

Thanks, but all credit goes to goodgirl on this one. She is the brains behind this operation. I just try to look pretty.

goodgirl · 01-16-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevsh

Great read, thanks!

I have a related question from this article: Do any sponsors or programs exlude hits from Flash apps or other automated links? Can they?

The reason I ask is that I have a Flash app that automates a click to a sponsor. It is not misleading - it takes the visitor exactly where they want. I just started this a week or so ago and it seems for a few programs the hit count is down, others unchanged. I don't know enough about various sponsors software (there are many, a lot proprietary) to conclude whether it's possible to exclude or not?

For example, in a typical log file a "hit" coming from a standard link on a web page shows up with the referrer, etc., but what about "virtual" clicks from a Flash or Java app? If a logging program handles and reports it differently, I assume so can aff. programs ...

(Oh, I do have a plain text link for those that don't have Flash so I don't see that being a big factor in a reduced hit count.)

Anyone know for certain?

(And for the curious, the Flash app was put in as a test to recored outbound hits on free hosts ... i know there are many ways to do this, but that's for another thread)

Seems to me that would depend on each system and their rules. Xpays (which I just signed up at to check out). Says on the sign up page that they pay on all hits no matter what domain they come from.

Which is good, if you rank high in SE's with that affiliate link, the surfer clicks straight through from Google.

It would suck if it was an affiliate program that only paid on clicks from your domain you used at sign up.

goodgirl · 01-16-2005, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Thanks, but all credit goes to goodgirl on this one. She is the brains behind this operation. I just try to look pretty.

You are pretty hot to me

XPays · 01-16-2005, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by goodgirl

Thank you

I plan on keeping up with this series for a little longer. Try to give out as much help as I can to both Affiliate Programs and Affiliates.

Much appreciated and available to assist you anytime

baddog · 01-16-2005, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by goodgirl

Seems to me that would depend on each system and their rules. Xpays (which I just signed up at to check out). Says on the sign up page that they pay on all hits no matter what domain they come from.

Which is good, if you rank high in SE's with that affiliate link, the surfer clicks straight through from Google.

It would suck if it was an affiliate program that only paid on clicks from your domain you used at sign up.

I was just going to say the same thing, it depends entirely upon the program.

Always best to read their TOS closely.

pxxx · 01-16-2005, 09:00 PM

I have bookmarked it. Thanks for the link BD.

pxxx · 01-16-2005, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I was just going to say the same thing, it depends entirely upon the program.

Always best to read their TOS closely.

Hey BD, can i get with you on ICQ? I would like to ask you something about Sexpicturepass. If you have time, i would really appreciate it.

baddog · 01-16-2005, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pxxx

Hey BD, can i get with you on ICQ? I would like to ask you something about Sexpicturepass. If you have time, i would really appreciate it.

always . . . . 16075497

baddog · 01-16-2005, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by goodgirl

You are pretty hot to me

XPays · 01-16-2005, 09:05 PM

baddog - create an xpays account please and we will tag pamporn and goodgirl to your downline

lmk

xclusive · 01-16-2005, 09:05 PM

very nice

pxxx · 01-16-2005, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

always . . . . 16075497

Thanks man. Appreciate it, i will hit you up now.

WiredGuy · 01-16-2005, 09:26 PM

My suggestion, use program that allow link to join pages. That way you control the editorial, the link formats and exits.

WG

baddog · 01-16-2005, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by XPays

baddog - create an xpays account please and we will tag pamporn and goodgirl to your downline

lmk

Done, thanks

baddog · 01-16-2005, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Done, thanks

I have to follow up by saying that I really like the tips you provide on your welcome email.

Nice touch.

Relish XXX · 01-16-2005, 09:40 PM

Jesus I just read your prices:

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Full Services $3000/month PER SITE + 20% of product/membership sales. 15% of all ad invoices not paid in advance.

So we would have to pay approx $23,000 for you to help us out per month?

goodgirl · 01-16-2005, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

My suggestion, use program that allow link to join pages. That way you control the editorial, the link formats and exits.

WG

Was this the guy AaronM wanted me to meet up with in Vegas? I can't remember, just remember him saying I could have some good SEO conversations at the convention.

I just thought he was trying to get me there for other reasons

WG by landing pages I mean join pages. With each sponsor the links they give are indexed or not indexed by search engines.

How do you control the editorial if they just give you a link?

What happens if their join page is SEO Friendly?

goodgirl · 01-16-2005, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

Jesus I just read your prices:

So we would have to pay approx $23,000 for you to help us out per month?

I usually give several proposals on prices and it really depends on what I'm hired to do.

baddog · 01-16-2005, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Relish XXX

Jesus I just read your prices:

So we would have to pay approx $23,000 for you to help us out per month?

no, the 20% would be on pages we create and generate sales on (performance based), it isn't based on your entire sales from all your affiliates.

If you are interested you can contact me direct and I will give you a detailed breakdown on our rates.

ICQ 16075497 or [email protected]

baddog · 01-16-2005, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by goodgirl

Was this the guy AaronM wanted me to meet up with in Vegas? I can't remember, just remember him saying I could have some good SEO conversations at the convention.

I just thought he was trying to get me there for other reasons

Most likely, yes. However Aaron was trying to get you there for me

goodgirl · 01-16-2005, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Most likely, yes. However Aaron was trying to get you there for me

Well that is what I thought. But I didn't know for sure, he was talking romatic times at one point. He did say in CA though. So I assume you as well

swami · 01-16-2005, 09:54 PM

Ahemm.Cough!
If I may butt in here affiliate program SE optimising was my idea months ago and I have still yet to see someone do it better than me.
I only charge $400 per site and I have a proven record.

goodgirl · 01-16-2005, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by swami

Ahemm.Cough!
If I may butt in here affiliate program SE optimising was my idea months ago and I have still yet to see someone do it better than me.
I only charge $400 per site and I have a proven record.

So you optimize the affiliate systems to get hit with a dupe filter and have less listings? Make it to where only 1 affiliate has a chance of ranking? Just like the example? Makes me wonder if your the one affiliate that ranks for it too.

Great job. I'm not trying to be mean, just pointing out the problems I see.

baddog · 01-16-2005, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pxxx

Thanks man. Appreciate it, i will hit you up now.

If you are requesting authorization, I am not getting it

swami · 01-16-2005, 10:36 PM

With the utmost respect I am not sure that you have grasped the concept fully on why aff links can have great positions in the search engines.There is a basic thing that is missing from your fine article and I am not about to spell it out here.
Anyway, its a waste of time getting SE traffic.

It doesn't convert.
WG is right .
There is no money in SEO.

goodgirl · 01-16-2005, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swami

With the utmost respect I am not sure that you have grasped the concept fully on why aff links can have great positions in the search engines.There is a basic thing that is missing from your fine article and I am not about to spell it out here.
Anyway, its a waste of time getting SE traffic.

It doesn't convert.
WG is right .
There is no money in SEO.

I'm not saying they can't. I'm saying SEO friendly affiliate systems that do not provide unique landing pages for the affiliates will not be getting great ranks.

The ones that do that, will have much more listings in the SERP's.

If your don't give a shit about pages being bunched together as the same, then hey a SEO Friendly affiliate system is great.

swami · 01-16-2005, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by goodgirl

I'm not saying they can't. I'm saying SEO friendly affiliate systems that do not provide unique landing pages for the affiliates will not be getting great ranks.

The ones that do that, will have much more listings in the SERP's.

If your don't give a shit about pages being bunched together as the same, then hey a SEO Friendly affiliate system is great.

As I said,there is a basic flaw in your theory which shows you haven't grasped the whole idea..Optmising a program is definitely a good idea but your thoery has holes in it after that.
Best wishes

goodgirl · 01-17-2005, 12:08 AM

Okay. Let me lay it out for you in a way you can grasp it.

Let's say you turned Adult Friend Finders into a kick ass SEO Friendly Affiliate system. And Sleazy Dreams has links into Adult Friend Finders using the keyword "fuck buddy".

Everything is perfect right? His Adult Friend Finders affiliate link Ranks # 1 for this term. He is making 10k a day just for this keyword.

Now Adult Friend Finder's servers get a really bad virus. This virus hits their whole system. They are going to be down for 24 hours.

Sleazy Dreams is now losing 10K a day just on that 1 keyword.

Sure he can change links, but since his site isn't ranking for that spefic term and the SEO Friendly Affiliate Programs site is, he is going to wait for his site to get back in the SERP's.

Now you were the one that recommended this to him on top of making it SEO Friendly.

You explain to him why he just lost his $$$. Because I'm sure the hell not.

fr8 · 01-17-2005, 12:11 AM

should make for some good reading. book marked.

goodgirl · 01-17-2005, 12:20 AM

Oh and sorry SleazyDreams, I didn't mean to get you fucked. I will try not to use you to much.

baddog · 01-17-2005, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by goodgirl

Oh and sorry SleazyDreams, I didn't mean to get you fucked. I will try not to use you to much.

I am sure it was purely coincidental.

goodgirl · 01-17-2005, 12:34 AM

By the way I do see problems with AFF. It is SEO Friendly and passes PR through.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...oogle+Se arch

Only 1 affiliate ranks #1 for the term "Adult Friend Finders". Yes others can rank with content pages on their own domains. But there are some leaks.

Besides that, like I said if their servers go down. Then that affiliate is going to lose out for awhile.

Do you see the problem now? I know there is good and bad. Just need to seal up some leaks

swami · 01-17-2005, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by goodgirl

By the way I do see problems with AFF. It is SEO Friendly and passes PR through.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...oogle+Se arch

Only 1 affiliate ranks #1 for the term "Adult Friend Finders". Yes others can rank with content pages on their own domains. But there are some leaks.

Besides that, like I said if their servers go down. Then that affiliate is going to lose out for awhile.

Do you see the problem now? I know there is good and bad. Just need to seal up some leaks

WTF are we talking about here.!!??
I'll don't want to be rude or condescending but its more dangerous halving half a clue than no clue.
I am tempted to let you know where you are mistaken but I will let you and your followers dance to your own tune.
Cheers and Kind Regards.

Trax · 01-17-2005, 02:52 AM

Swami is indeed the king of the affiliate code linking and he is also right about the fact that there is a big factor missing in the article.
believe me guys... it is not as easy as 90% of you guys think it is lol.

jazzll · 01-17-2005, 02:55 AM

interestinggg

Rui · 01-17-2005, 03:26 AM

great site, thanks for sharing ;)

goodgirl · 01-17-2005, 04:04 AM

Ok, it is pretty easy to say I'm not right without proving why.

So let me throw some other things out for you experts to think about. Remember SERPs change often so what you see might not be exactly the same. But there are still many things that will be.

Search on Google for Adult Friend Finders. Ok, you see one really good Affiliate on top at #1. Now lets look at other results. 2 Friend Finders. Who most likely has a powerful network of sites and can hold their rank. Sometimes you may see other sites if there has been a shift in the SERPs.

Results 3-10 these results are often newer pages, or pages not high quality. (Newbie?s built them). I mean you can tell banners everywhere. Site doesn't look very nice, probably not getting much click through traffic from these sites to the affiliate system. But they are ranked.

Here is an example of one: http://www.geocities.com/sinergy_us/adult.html Ranked on page one of Google for "Adult Friend Finders".

Scroll down that page and click through the "SEO Friendly Affiliate Link"
This affiliate link passed no PR. The value of this affiliates page ranked higher then the landing page.

So this is what is going on. A little over a year ago Google changed. Since then and before then, Affiliate Systems were changing.

Everyone comes screaming on GFY how much Google sucks. Can you believe all these low PR sites that are ranking on the front page? Man this is fucking bullshit.

Why did all these quality sites stop ranking? Well if you were watching, if you had links out there like that, you could see.

The "Good Old Boys" that had the best sites were now competing with each other instead of just the newbie?s. More, why?

Dupe Filter + SEO Friendly Links = FUCKED. There can be only one Good Old Boy.

Example. Say Sleazy and Thumbzilla are both linking to Adult Friend Finders with the same Anchor text. Also they both have powerful sites to link from. So they both transfer PR over to AFF's landing page. But since the landing page is exactly the SAME. Only one can rank.

So Sleazy and Thumbzilla both go back and forth as #1. They disappear and then reappear. Newbie affiliates get nice spots on the front page easily.

Now if one of them change the way they link to that affiliate site or if that affiliate site made the landing page more UNIQUE so a filter wouldn't hide dupes, then they would both be back on top.

Personally, I would rather have the "Good Old Boys" getting the traffic and knowing they can convert it. Then to get 1 of them and 9 so-so affiliates that are sure how their PR2-3 site is ranking.

Another twist. What if AFF is buying these text links from both Sleazy and Thumbzilla? How effective is their linking methods? I know they want to track how each site converts and how each keyword converts. So they use separate links. Could they use one to increase their ROI? Or should they customize these landing pages so they are not the same?

I say not the same. Why? 2 unique pages not being filtered. 2 unique pages that now will rank on Page 1. Now they have control over where the traffic lands with their Paid Text Ads they bought. Instead of leaving it to a brand new affiliate that is still learning and not as effective in marketing "their" product.

But then again, I could have not watched this happen. I wasn't apart of it. Anyone that knows me knows I have never ranked for shit. Visa rules have never changed, globill has never closed their doors, and Shemp is not sexy.

But really if you are so sure I'm wrong, show me why because I will evaluated everything I have seen and tested over the last 18 months.

goodgirl · 01-17-2005, 04:14 AM

Correction:
Then to get 1 of them and 9 so-so affiliates that are not sure how their PR2-3 site is ranking.

Pornopat · 01-17-2005, 04:19 AM

Bookmarking this for future reference.

goodgirl · 01-17-2005, 04:23 AM

One more thing. There are variables in all this. Affiliate Programs and Affiliates can only look at what has gone on with them.

And I'm not saying SEO Friendly Affiliate Systems are bad. I'm just saying some things can be adjusted by either affiliates or the systems to make them better.

goodgirl · 01-17-2005, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

My suggestion, use program that allow link to join pages. That way you control the editorial, the link formats and exits.

WG

And I think I understand what you are saying. Use a sponsor that gives you a full page ad that you can use? This way ou can control the editorial, the link formats and exits. That is a very good idea.

If the FPA has seo friendly links, you would have to plan out how your going to deal with if they get indexed or not. Would have to decide which way would work best for you.

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	SEO Friendly Affiliate Programs - Part II As announced the other day, AdultSEM.com has launched their Adult SEO Blog. Today we present part two of a continuing series, SEO Friendly Affiliate Programs. - Learn how to make your links more effective, and for affiliate program owners, how to help your affiliates help you as well as themselves. If you have not read part one, The SEO "Rebound Effect" you owe it to yourself to read it now. This is one blog I recommend bookmarking and checking back daily.

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Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	Great read, thanks! I have a related question from this article: Do any sponsors or programs exlude hits from Flash apps or other automated links? Can they? The reason I ask is that I have a Flash app that automates a click to a sponsor. It is not misleading - it takes the visitor exactly where they want. I just started this a week or so ago and it seems for a few programs the hit count is down, others unchanged. I don't know enough about various sponsors software (there are many, a lot proprietary) to conclude whether it's possible to exclude or not? For example, in a typical log file a "hit" coming from a standard link on a web page shows up with the referrer, etc., but what about "virtual" clicks from a Flash or Java app? If a logging program handles and reports it differently, I assume so can aff. programs ... (Oh, I do have a plain text link for those that don't have Flash so I don't see that being a big factor in a reduced hit count.) Anyone know for certain? (And for the curious, the Flash app was put in as a test to recored outbound hits on free hosts ... i know there are many ways to do this, but that's for another thread)

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swami Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: vanuatu Posts: 1,989	Ahemm.Cough! If I may butt in here affiliate program SE optimising was my idea months ago and I have still yet to see someone do it better than me. I only charge $400 per site and I have a proven record.

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swami Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: vanuatu Posts: 1,989	With the utmost respect I am not sure that you have grasped the concept fully on why aff links can have great positions in the search engines.There is a basic thing that is missing from your fine article and I am not about to spell it out here. Anyway, its a waste of time getting SE traffic. It doesn't convert. WG is right . There is no money in SEO.

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goodgirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Behind the monitor since 1988 Posts: 1,679	Okay. Let me lay it out for you in a way you can grasp it. Let's say you turned Adult Friend Finders into a kick ass SEO Friendly Affiliate system. And Sleazy Dreams has links into Adult Friend Finders using the keyword "fuck buddy". Everything is perfect right? His Adult Friend Finders affiliate link Ranks # 1 for this term. He is making 10k a day just for this keyword. Now Adult Friend Finder's servers get a really bad virus. This virus hits their whole system. They are going to be down for 24 hours. Sleazy Dreams is now losing 10K a day just on that 1 keyword. Sure he can change links, but since his site isn't ranking for that spefic term and the SEO Friendly Affiliate Programs site is, he is going to wait for his site to get back in the SERP's. Now you were the one that recommended this to him on top of making it SEO Friendly. You explain to him why he just lost his $$$. Because I'm sure the hell not. __________________ Got Web Host providing Website Hosting since 2002.

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goodgirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Behind the monitor since 1988 Posts: 1,679	By the way I do see problems with AFF. It is SEO Friendly and passes PR through. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...oogle+Se arch Only 1 affiliate ranks #1 for the term "Adult Friend Finders". Yes others can rank with content pages on their own domains. But there are some leaks. Besides that, like I said if their servers go down. Then that affiliate is going to lose out for awhile. Do you see the problem now? I know there is good and bad. Just need to seal up some leaks __________________ Got Web Host providing Website Hosting since 2002.

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Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	Swami is indeed the king of the affiliate code linking and he is also right about the fact that there is a big factor missing in the article. believe me guys... it is not as easy as 90% of you guys think it is lol.

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01-17-2005, 04:04 AM	#46
goodgirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Behind the monitor since 1988 Posts: 1,679	Ok, it is pretty easy to say I'm not right without proving why. So let me throw some other things out for you experts to think about. Remember SERPs change often so what you see might not be exactly the same. But there are still many things that will be. Search on Google for Adult Friend Finders. Ok, you see one really good Affiliate on top at #1. Now lets look at other results. 2 Friend Finders. Who most likely has a powerful network of sites and can hold their rank. Sometimes you may see other sites if there has been a shift in the SERPs. Results 3-10 these results are often newer pages, or pages not high quality. (Newbie?s built them). I mean you can tell banners everywhere. Site doesn't look very nice, probably not getting much click through traffic from these sites to the affiliate system. But they are ranked. Here is an example of one: http://www.geocities.com/sinergy_us/adult.html Ranked on page one of Google for "Adult Friend Finders". Scroll down that page and click through the "SEO Friendly Affiliate Link" This affiliate link passed no PR. The value of this affiliates page ranked higher then the landing page. So this is what is going on. A little over a year ago Google changed. Since then and before then, Affiliate Systems were changing. Everyone comes screaming on GFY how much Google sucks. Can you believe all these low PR sites that are ranking on the front page? Man this is fucking bullshit. Why did all these quality sites stop ranking? Well if you were watching, if you had links out there like that, you could see. The "Good Old Boys" that had the best sites were now competing with each other instead of just the newbie?s. More, why? Dupe Filter + SEO Friendly Links = FUCKED. There can be only one Good Old Boy. Example. Say Sleazy and Thumbzilla are both linking to Adult Friend Finders with the same Anchor text. Also they both have powerful sites to link from. So they both transfer PR over to AFF's landing page. But since the landing page is exactly the SAME. Only one can rank. So Sleazy and Thumbzilla both go back and forth as #1. They disappear and then reappear. Newbie affiliates get nice spots on the front page easily. Now if one of them change the way they link to that affiliate site or if that affiliate site made the landing page more UNIQUE so a filter wouldn't hide dupes, then they would both be back on top. Personally, I would rather have the "Good Old Boys" getting the traffic and knowing they can convert it. Then to get 1 of them and 9 so-so affiliates that are sure how their PR2-3 site is ranking. Another twist. What if AFF is buying these text links from both Sleazy and Thumbzilla? How effective is their linking methods? I know they want to track how each site converts and how each keyword converts. So they use separate links. Could they use one to increase their ROI? Or should they customize these landing pages so they are not the same? I say not the same. Why? 2 unique pages not being filtered. 2 unique pages that now will rank on Page 1. Now they have control over where the traffic lands with their Paid Text Ads they bought. Instead of leaving it to a brand new affiliate that is still learning and not as effective in marketing "their" product. But then again, I could have not watched this happen. I wasn't apart of it. Anyone that knows me knows I have never ranked for shit. Visa rules have never changed, globill has never closed their doors, and Shemp is not sexy. But really if you are so sure I'm wrong, show me why because I will evaluated everything I have seen and tested over the last 18 months. __________________ Got Web Host providing Website Hosting since 2002.

01-17-2005, 04:14 AM	#47
goodgirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Behind the monitor since 1988 Posts: 1,679	Correction: Then to get 1 of them and 9 so-so affiliates that are not sure how their PR2-3 site is ranking. __________________ Got Web Host providing Website Hosting since 2002.

01-17-2005, 04:19 AM	#48
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01-17-2005, 04:23 AM	#49
goodgirl Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Behind the monitor since 1988 Posts: 1,679	One more thing. There are variables in all this. Affiliate Programs and Affiliates can only look at what has gone on with them. And I'm not saying SEO Friendly Affiliate Systems are bad. I'm just saying some things can be adjusted by either affiliates or the systems to make them better. __________________ Got Web Host providing Website Hosting since 2002.