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Nismo 01-12-2005 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MBS Auto
how about some Traffic Advice for our Paysite www.SexDegenerates.com Hit me up on ICQ with some inside info 332116915

Do you have the rights from Playboy to use the bernola twins images on your site?

emthree 01-12-2005 02:55 PM

Why do you like whoring your name out so much? =))

Executive Stats 01-12-2005 03:07 PM

BTW, I never liked Ron Levi, but I paid $50k for high rollers software that made me millions.

Juicy D. Links 01-12-2005 03:10 PM

Brad,

Why did god bless me with such good looks?

Rui 01-12-2005 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DonovanPhillips
What can a major sponsor say to me to convince me that if I used your program you wouldn't harvest the email addresses of my members and use them to promote your own programs?

Or is that the incentive to create such software?

LOL that reminded me about the whole "bad list" of email addresses Brad Shaw bough from KB long time ago, and he kept bitching about it on and on and on..lol (it was even posted here)

swedguy 01-12-2005 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Executive Stats
Swedeguy, your sales rep will be in touch. Log in to your stats, there is a phone # and ICQ right there. I do not handle webmaster support.

It has nothing to do with webmaster support!

Jon2 01-12-2005 03:42 PM

Okay...So you sell the source...

How would you know if a sponsor was cheating?

At this point I feel better trusing NATS programs as they don't sell the source...So how can someone modify it to shave?

You say you would kill a license of a shaver...But if they can completely lock you out...How would you know they were shaving?

Isn't the point of all these new admin programs is to prevent cheating on the programs from webmasters and give some confidence to the webmasters using the sponsors? As we all know these days every fucken sponsor will rip ya in a heartbeat if they think they can...

So I've decided at this point to only use NATS sponsors...Tell me why I should use sponsors who use your software? As I don't feel as comfortable knowing they can modify the code...

Jon

emthree 01-12-2005 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon
Okay...So you sell the source...

How would you know if a sponsor was cheating?

At this point I feel better trusing NATS programs as they don't sell the source...So how can someone modify it to shave?

You say you would kill a license of a shaver...But if they can completely lock you out...How would you know they were shaving?

Exactly what I was thinking when I see such claims being made.

IMO NATS is still over rated, and the "no shaving" feature is just a marketing ploy to heighten their existence and heighten such software.

I still believe in trust and strong relationships Vs fancy 3rd party software. :2 cents:

Jon2 01-12-2005 04:35 PM

I am just trying to understand...As I am a programmer...How software companies can back up their claims on the webmaster side of things...If they are "Locked" out of the system once they buy the software...

Jon

BradShaw 01-12-2005 04:40 PM

We have checks and balances in place to watch for affiliates abusing the software (shaving). I will not go into specifics.

99% of the big pps programs use their own code, it is almost impossible to run a large program with the constraints of compiled code. If you really think NATS is shave proof and you only want to send your traffic there, I am not going to argue with your short sidedness.

The average webmaster really does not understand shaving. It is an easy excuse for a shitty sales day. I am not saying people do not shave, look at Perfection Cash, they got caught red handed.

Jon2 01-12-2005 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BradShaw
We have checks and balances in place to watch for affiliates abusing the software (shaving). I will not go into specifics.

99% of the big pps programs use their own code, it is almost impossible to run a large program with the constraints of compiled code. If you really think NATS is shave proof and you only want to send your traffic there, I am not going to argue with your short sidedness.

The average webmaster really does not understand shaving. It is an easy excuse for a shitty sales day. I am not saying people do not shave, look at Perfection Cash, they got caught red handed.

Okay..My short sidedness? I'm fully listening to everything you have to say...You provide at a higher cost the full source code...Which enables them to do whatever they want...From a programmers side of view...What capabilities does your "checks and balances" have when someone can modify anything in the scripts?

I am not really getting a solid answer on this...I would like to be able to trust sponsors using your system...But so far your not providing me with the hard standing that I can...So I will have to rely on using sponsors that have straight biller stats?

So your software is mainly just to provide affiliate programs with fraud protection...Nothing to protect webmasters from fraud? I figured with all these new fancy stats programs you would maybe look out for the industry as well?

Jon

makefuckingmoney 01-12-2005 05:15 PM

We are upgrading to it. My program has gone nuts and the database and structure of my software is having more issues based on our growth. So I chose to use Executive Stats rather than continually upgrading my current software.

I must own the source code of my software, I feel I would be negligent not physically owning it.

If it sucks, you will hear about it.

Im hoping to be live with it next week.


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