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BlueWire · 01-12-2005, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk

if the company is fucking them over why not cut them out and pay them 500 a month to work for you directly when their contract expires?

Many people do that..its just often their work isnt as good...most these guys have VERY LITTLE experience....they were trained for a couple weeks and released....so they're great for free sites and stuff...beyond that....you're taking your chances....

...also, if you're caught poching and you've worked with these companies before then there is an element of your contract that makes them able to sue the shit out of you and your company....

BRISK · 01-12-2005, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueWire

Many people do that..its just often their work isnt as good...most these guys have VERY LITTLE experience....they were trained for a couple weeks and released....so they're great for free sites and stuff...beyond that....you're taking your chances....

...also, if you're caught poching and you've worked with these companies before then there is an element of your contract that makes them able to sue the shit out of you and your company....

AOS didn't have any contract

Pete · 01-12-2005, 05:54 PM

Yet another horror story....that sucks

BlueWire · 01-12-2005, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

AOS didn't have any contract

...Well, they do have an agreement...but thats right, they dont make you sign it...they assume you read it and hold you to it...I've experienced that first hand.....

X3 actually makes you sign and fax it back

BRISK · 01-12-2005, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueWire

...Well, they do have an agreement...but thats right, they dont make you sign it...they assume you read it and hold you to it...I've experienced that first hand.....

X3 actually makes you sign and fax it back

I never saw any agreement with AOS, and I certainly never signed anything.

VeriSexy · 01-12-2005, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bootyologist

$200 a month? what the ....

Yeah I was told they use to get only $250 a month while webmasters pay $850 a month. I was like WTF!!!!!!!!!

VeriSexy · 01-12-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mrthumbs

BlueWire sounds upset :2cents

I would be too, I know one of the employees of a AOS company and I was amazed how much work they got and how much they were paid. Anyway, most of the real talent left the companys. Big skill drain...........

PureTotty · 01-12-2005, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hyperdrive

hmm.. i've been a team leader here, with 10 members.. and earned only $240 a month.. it really sucks..

Ah you and your team should hit me up I might have work for you too... ICQ 209076205

BlueWire · 01-12-2005, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

I never saw any agreement with AOS, and I certainly never signed anything.

I'm certain you got one in the email that had the name and overview of your employee

BRISK · 01-12-2005, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueWire

I'm certain you got one in the email that had the name and overview of your employee

How did you "experienced that first hand"

Lawsuit?

DesignWise · 01-12-2005, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VeriSexy

I would be too, I know one of the employees of a AOS company and I was amazed how much work they got and how much they were paid. Anyway, most of the real talent left the companys. Big skill drain...........

and those skilled persons are now earning descend income..

DesignWise · 01-12-2005, 09:41 PM

**** descent

BlueWire · 01-12-2005, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BRISK

How did you "experienced that first hand"

Lawsuit?

No worries...its taken care of....its amazing how much more intimidating American lawyers are

BRISK · 01-12-2005, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueWire

No worries...its taken care of....its amazing how much more intimidating American lawyers are

So they threatened you with a lawsuit, but then dropped it?

SmokeyTheBear · 01-12-2005, 09:55 PM

This is a great pr thread for outsourcing

If you put your own country's workers at risk by outsourcing why would you care if the workers are being abused ??

pxxx · 01-12-2005, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Twe Russ

Thats some raw shit. Oh well.

You couldn't have said it any better.

Nickless · 01-12-2005, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Basic_man

Outsourcing is bad, we have the proof right here !

outsourcing is GREAT when done with the right people, i pay my employees 2x what they could earn in any local IT related job, flexible hours, relaxed work enviroment, i do all project management with 5+ years of experience in the industry, constant training and bonus incentives, some greedy fucks may do it the wrong way but there's no need really.

Nickless · 01-12-2005, 10:13 PM

and my team would kill for me. period.

cold_ice · 01-12-2005, 10:18 PM

Damn these guys really sux, but why in the fuck would people work for them?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-12-2005, 10:25 PM

Its fucken sad, and one of the reasons why I have been fairly outspoken against outsourcing from the beginning. Not to mention a solid punch to my bottom line in some cases but it goes beyond that, concerning the talent of creative people working for a peanut shell. Its just wrong.

hyperdrive · 01-12-2005, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza

$200 a month is about the same as the minimum waige here in Brazil. My maid earns more than that.

now that would make every employee on webcom wanna cry.. maids are earning more than us!

VeriSexy · 01-13-2005, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DesignWise

and those skilled persons are now earning descend income..

I hope so.............

MetaMan · 01-13-2005, 12:34 AM

i have no respect for any fucker who uses outsourcing, cheap bastards need to get what is coming to them, use local services, there is plenty of local people who are easily worth the $.

fuck you to for using them.

theFeTiShLaDy · 01-13-2005, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueWire

Phillipines....cost of living is way less...but its still kinda ridulous...

I WANT TO MAKE SOMETHING CLEAR....

I'M NOT LUMPING XXXOUTSOURCING IN WITH THIS AT ALL....I HAVE KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY PAY THEIR EMPLOYEES ATLEAST DOUBLE OF AOS...AND TREAT THEM BETTER AS WELL...

GREG AND MAC ARE STAND UP GUYS

The problem here was the guy who was running AOS (JOEL AQUINO) who is LIAR AND GREEDY! I feel sorry for James.

Huggles · 01-13-2005, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by shageman

its biz, welcome to the real world

If everything was "biz" then nobody would ever donate to a charity. Oh wait... for the write offs...

BRISK · 01-13-2005, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

i have no respect for any fucker who uses outsourcing, cheap bastards need to get what is coming to them, use local services, there is plenty of local people who are easily worth the $.

fuck you to for using them.

I use outsourcing, it's awesome.

It's unfortunate that you don't understand economics, business, or reality.

webcrawler · 01-13-2005, 04:17 AM

I agree with you Brisk. You have to consider other factors here. If my co-employees here in AOS find that salary way too low, then they shouldn't have worked here in the first place. We all have choices here.

Entropy · 01-13-2005, 04:21 AM

Wow...what a fucked up situation...hope it gets better

$5 submissions · 01-13-2005, 04:40 AM

As a Filipino-American owner of my own outsourcing company here in the Philippines, I just want to assure online businessmen that read this that MOST Filipino business partners do not engage in the behavior alleged in this thread. It's just the few that give the rest a black eye. I was born in the Philippines but spent most of my life in the United States. A big reason I came back to the Philippines was to give jobs to Filipinos through outsourcing. If done right, outsourcing can help American companies compete better. Unfortunately, the recent AOS situation puts a cloud on the many mutual benefits that outsourced solutions provide. Don't let this situation give you a jaded view of ALL Filipinos or of outsourcing in general.

I know James and I know he'll spring back from this. I definitely will give him whatever help he needs to get back on track. Hang in there, man!

Gene aka $5 Submissions

andrej_NDC · 01-14-2005, 11:26 AM

thanks for this thread, I will never pay an Adult Outsourcing company in my life, only employees directly.

chowda · 01-14-2005, 11:05 PM

talk about getting in the bad end. let me see who on my icq is from adultoursourcing :D

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$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	As a Filipino-American owner of my own outsourcing company here in the Philippines, I just want to assure online businessmen that read this that MOST Filipino business partners do not engage in the behavior alleged in this thread. It's just the few that give the rest a black eye. I was born in the Philippines but spent most of my life in the United States. A big reason I came back to the Philippines was to give jobs to Filipinos through outsourcing. If done right, outsourcing can help American companies compete better. Unfortunately, the recent AOS situation puts a cloud on the many mutual benefits that outsourced solutions provide. Don't let this situation give you a jaded view of ALL Filipinos or of outsourcing in general. I know James and I know he'll spring back from this. I definitely will give him whatever help he needs to get back on track. Hang in there, man! Gene aka $5 Submissions __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

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