the muslim scum amoung us

[12clicks]

anyone just see dateline?
another muslim claiming innocence and sorrow for the 11th while supplying money to terrorist groups.

what will it take for America to kick these killers out of our country?
As I've said all along. ALL of these muslims in the US are giving money directly to the people killing us.
"oh no, its for the mosque"
"no, you've got it wrong, its for the victims of israel"
"no, we don't believe in killing"

They kill for their religion, why wouldn't they lie?

[Theo]

true
god bless you
12 clicks for president

[Steve]

Not all Muslim are scum, or are willing to murder other people because of different religious beliefs. Not everyone is a fanatic. Fanatics of any religion, or political belief, are dangerous.

But yes, I think guys like the character on Dateline should be dealt with in some way.

[jimmyf]

If they supplied money or any kind of support they should go to jail and NO Pass Go.

Send'm to Pelican Bay in California, one of the better hardcore jails in the country.

Screw'm all of them that give any kind of help to the pricks.


Jim

[Theo]

Originally posted by Steve:
Not all Muslim are scum, or are willing to murder other people because of different religious beliefs. Not everyone is a fanatic. Fanatics of any religion, or political belief, are dangerous.

But yes, I think guys like the character on Dateline should be dealt with in some way.

do you want to see a fanatic? read the 1st post

[12clicks]

Originally posted by Steve:
Not all Muslim are scum, or are willing to murder other people because of different religious beliefs. Not everyone is a fanatic. Fanatics of any religion, or political belief, are dangerous.

But yes, I think guys like the character on Dateline should be dealt with in some way.

this guy is free and teaching in florida.

[Theo]

but, i want do anymore post on this, i won't spend another day on debating with 12clicks. We have different opinions and it is stated.

[12clicks]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel:
but, i want do anymore post on this, i won't spend another day on debating with 12clicks. We have different opinions and it is stated.

yeah, I'm against religions that advocate killing and promise paradise for those who commit it.

soulrebel doesn't seem to mind it.

[SNOW]

12clicks i agree with you.But thats so far from preventing which is the real issue.. Were dealing with a society that believes what there doing is right..

How is anyone gonna set a human government in there,let alone all the problems they have with there female population.. There all brainwashed to hell and are being fed bullshit..

[12clicks]

snow, thats why you throw them all out of the country, arrest any more of them on site, and STOP FEEDING THEM.
If we stop feeding the countries that hate us, there will eventually be no countries that hate us.

[CDSmith]

I have a huge admission to make here.....

I've secretly thought that we should find another planet to colonize, and then let all the fanatics go live there. They would have that world all to themselves, with no one to bother them. The question is, would they then be happy and peaceful like their Koran teaches? I doubt it. They'd have to find something to fight about, because they're obviously not happy unless they're declaring a fucking holy war on someone.

Send them to Mars or bomb them out of existance, it's the only way they'll stop their bullshit. They believe that they can excert their will and their beliefs on others through the use of brute force, so let's fucking show them what brute force really means.
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[jimmyf]

Originally posted by 12clicks:
snow, thats why you throw them all out of the country, arrest any more of them on site, and STOP FEEDING THEM.
If we stop feeding the countries that hate us, there will eventually be no countries that hate us.

Am all for this. But the thing is out Govt.
will not do it.

We keep feeding the bastards and they keep letting there people brainwash them that we
are the evel ones and should be killed at any cost, at the cost of there own life if need be. We dam sure should not be sending them food, let'm starve.

Hey if someone creaps up and hits me in the back of the head, I dam sure watch my back when am around him and would not piss on his guts if they were on fire. Screw the cock suckers.

Am with you 12clicker.

Jim

[tha_timinator]

12clicks, two words:

FUCK YOU! (and all your fellow narrow-minded Americans too)

Jeez, when do you Americans finally start to _THINK_ before screaming out such STUPID statements...

(and no, I'm not muslim)


[This message has been edited by tha_timinator (edited 10-28-2001).]

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by tha_timinator:
FUCK YOU!

(and all your fellow narrow-minded Americans)

I'll have you know, asshole... that I happen to be very narrow-minded, and I take extreme offense to that remark!

[Gary]

Originally posted by tha_timinator:
12clicks, two words:

FUCK YOU!

(and all your fellow narrow-minded Americans)

(and no, I'm not muslim)

He's a Muslim

[tha_timinator]

btw; excuse me for the offence but threads like these make me goddamn angry

[corvette]

12 clicks

i understand your concern...what do you suggest we do, realistically?

[Snake Doctor]

12Clicks, are you implying that if we threw all of the muslims out of America that terrorism would go away?

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90% of this business is half mental.

[12clicks]

Originally posted by tha_timinator:
btw; excuse me for the offence but threads like these make me goddamn angry

timmy boy, what SHOULD make you mad is the killing of 6,000 innocent people. Also, if you've been around here at all, you'll know that I find your type irrelevant.

corvett, realistically we round up ALL suspected terrorists, terrorist supporters, and ALL of their associates.(I assure you that the FBI does have a starting point for this) Investigate where ALL money given to mosques goes and close down those sending funds to terrorists and deport ALL members of that mosque who've given money.
These people advocate killing.

Lenny, are you implying that if we throw no more muslims out of the country that terrorism will stop?

[Snake Doctor]

I never claimed to have the answer to stopping terrorism. If there is an answer.
However I think that throwing people out of America based on their religious beliefs is rather un-American. (you know we have that pesky bill of rights thing and all)

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90% of this business is half mental.

[Steve]

Originally posted by 12clicks:
[BInvestigate where ALL money given to mosques goes and close down those sending funds to terrorists and deport ALL members of that mosque who've given money.[/B]

12clicks
The US Govt. has bankrolled it's fair share of murderous scumbags over the last 50 years. Will we round up all senators, congressmen, etc that are responsible?

I say we end all foriegn aid, we close the fucking borders, tax the living shit out of imported goods, and go over all immigration cases with a fine tooth comb. Fix our fucked up school system, rebuild out infrascruture, and basically ignore everyone else's problems. We've got plenty of our own.

[corvette]

If all Muslims wanted to kill Americans, then we should throw all Muslims out of the country.

I am a complete, 100% advocate of throwing people that want to kill us out of the country

Let me add that I do not think that every Muslim in the country is against America, (otherwise, why live here in the land you hate?), and throwing out a Muslim-American based on their religion is not much better than throwing you or I out based on our beliefs)

I think that we are doing the best thing that we can do right now. Scrutinizing what we feel are the biggest dangers to us.

[This message has been edited by corvett (edited 10-28-2001).]

[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by Steve:
12clicks
The US Govt. has bankrolled it's fair share of murderous scumbags over the last 50 years. Will we round up all senators, congressmen, etc that are responsible?

I say we end all foriegn aid, we close the fucking borders, tax the living shit out of imported goods, and go over all immigration cases with a fine tooth comb. Fix our fucked up school system, rebuild out infrascruture, and basically ignore everyone else's problems. We've got plenty of our own.

I didn't know Pat Buchanan was a GFY member



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[12clicks]

Originally posted by Lenny2:

However I think that throwing people out of America based on their religious beliefs is rather un-American. (you know we have that pesky bill of rights thing and all)

Lenny, unfortunately, your thinking kills americans. When a religion is based on killing to get its way, that religion should not have the protection of our constitution.
I feel sorry for you if you think otherwise.

[nemesis]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by tha_timinator:
[B]12clicks, two words:

FUCK YOU! (and all your fellow narrow-minded Americans too)

Jeez, when do you Americans finally start to _THINK_ before screaming out such STUPID statements...

Finally, i see somebody on the board that has some critical thinking skills. Btw, Tha timinator I have been living in the us for two years now. I have many american friends which are not like the people on this board. May be because all of them are going to college and has a life that is not limited to porn.

[12clicks]

[quote]Originally posted by nemesis:
[b]

Originally posted by tha_timinator:
12clicks, two words:

FUCK YOU! (and all your fellow narrow-minded Americans too)

Jeez, when do you Americans finally start to _THINK_ before screaming out such STUPID statements...

Finally, i see somebody on the board that has some critical thinking skills. Btw, Tha timinator I have been living in the us for two years now. I have many american friends which are not like the people on this board. May be because all of them are going to college and has a life that is not limited to porn.

I'd fear me too you student visa punk.

[12clicks]

kids like you fear people that can do the critical thinking in 2 seconds and come up with the critical answer and don't fear that answer.

[nemesis]

in 2 second?

I have written a fucking 6 page essay on critical thinking and reasoning for a final project.
go to this url and buy this book (which we study at the college) and may be this will help you out!
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...255224-7285432

[12clicks]

Originally posted by nemesis:
in 2 second?

I have written a fucking 6 page essay on critical thinking and reasoning for a final project.
go to this url and buy this book (which we study at the college) and may be this will help you out!
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0395959314/qid=1004322595/sr=1 -6/ref=sr_1_11_6/103-2255224-7285432

son, thinking doesn't even START until you're out of college.

you've got a 6 page essay (that's not very big) on critical bullshit.
the problem with youth is that it always thinks its right until it ages. Luckily, by the time you see your wrong, the embarrasment will have subsided.

[SNOW]

This is a classic example of why palestinians and israel cant get along.. At this point I don't think it would be unfair to investigate anyone who seems suspicious. As un-American as that sounds it has to be done.. We suspected the Oklahoma City bombing of a terrorist act, and it was one of our own...

There is no easy solution to this,but what a huge part of the world does'nt realise is that we are for democracy and economics..If it means to preserve oil then hey were there to enhance the economic structure of this country.

Bin laden offered to Saudi Arabia help to defeat the iraqis and they refused them. Then they turn around and say we walked on there holy land... This isnt a muslim thing thats all a front line of bull... True muslims would not have attacked they way they did in NY..

Binladen is more in the lines of Hitler then anything.This is not about religion and we have to do everything we can even if it means to get rid off or scan everyone that had anyting to do with this..

This country is a melting pod of all religions and cultures..Why is it that here in America we are civil about this and overthere there like fucking barbaric animals.. For a country thats over 200 years old compared to countries that are 1000,s of years old it should be the other way around..

I know that good things will result from all of this and we seem to build a good repor with the Russians,Germans and many countries of the world.. Nearly 70 percent said to attack these fuckers...

God Bless this country and if anyone knocks it GET THE FUCK OUT..I'm 100 percent behind the United States..Why sholdnt i be look what she has to offer..

Peace out

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[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by 12clicks:
Lenny, unfortunately, your thinking kills americans. When a religion is based on killing to get its way, that religion should not have the protection of our constitution.
I feel sorry for you if you think otherwise.

Let's not make this personal 12clicks. I don't expect you to agree with me anymore than I expect that I'll agree with you. But this is the sort of thing that forums are for.
The muslim religion as a whole is not based on killing people to get their way. There are of course some factions within Islam that believe this, but there are similar factions within Christianity and probably amongst many other faiths that I'm not familiar with.
Bringing criminals to justice, and hunting down the people responsible for this is something I totally support.
However, saying that we should deport an entire group of people based on their religion, skin color, hair length, their love of really bad music or (insert reason here) is in my opinion, very un-American.


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[12clicks]

lenny, you're wrong.
There is NO proof what so ever that muslims are innocent except for their say so.
I choose to believe actions over words.

[nemesis]

12 clicks;
first of all, i am very serious about the thinks i will write here...

Send your adress to my e-mail. I will send you two books(I don't want anything in return). One of them is this critical thinking book and the other one is DIRECT translation of Quran from arabic to English (I want to mention again, it is the direct translation without any comments from the author)
If you want these books (come on it will not cost you anything) i will send them to you, but of course if you want to read them.

OK?

e-mail: [email protected]

[This message has been edited by nemesis (edited 10-28-2001).]

[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by 12clicks:
lenny, you're wrong.
There is NO proof what so ever that muslims are innocent except for their say so.
I choose to believe actions over words.

Oh I see, so that whole innocent until proven guilty and guilty beyond a reasonable doubt things I've heard about are all wrong.
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
Of course, other than your say so we don't have any proof that you're innocent either do we?



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90% of this business is half mental.

[12clicks]

Originally posted by nemesis:
12 clicks;
first of all, i am very serious about the thinks i will write here...

Send your adress to my e-mail. I will send you two books(I don't want anything in return). One of them is this critical thinking book and the other one is DIRECT translation of Quran from arabic to English (I want to mention again, it is the direct translation without any comments from the author)
If you want these books (come on it will not cost you anything) i will send them to you, but of course if you want to read them.

OK?

e-mail: [email protected]

[This message has been edited by nemesis (edited 10-28-2001).]

you still don't get it.
Most of the islamic world is illiterate. They have no idea what the fuck the koran says. Are you so naive that you really don't understand the danger of that?

[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by 12clicks:
you still don't get it.
Most of the islamic world is illiterate. They have no idea what the fuck the koran says. Are you so naive that you really don't understand the danger of that?

Ouch. That's a good point. Remember the power the vatican had when all of Europe was illiterate? (well you probably don't "remember" but you've read about it I'm sure)
Doesn't change my point of view, but it is a good point.

[CDSmith]

I'll clarify my previous post for the less literate...

My use of the term "fanatics" was not in reference to any particular race or religion. It was more intended towards people of a certain mindset, that being those responsible for terrorism anywhere in the world for any reason. There is NEVER a good reason for car-bombing someone, or flying a full airliner into a building, or shooting a gun into a crowd of children etc etc. My comments are targeted soley at those people that think that it IS somehow okay and noble to commit such acts of human hatred.

Anyone that takes issue with me about this can kiss my fucking ass right now. Don't defend people that are less than dick-cheese-one-a-ritz for fuck sakes. If you people are so educated, then by all means get a fucking clue. The way some of you sound, you'd prefer that the USA just lay down and let the terrorists ass-fuck them to death.
Fuck you.
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[tha_timinator]

Originally posted by 12clicks:
you still don't get it.
Most of the islamic world is illiterate. They have no idea what the fuck the koran says. Are you so naive that you really don't understand the danger of that?

Sorry again and don't feel offended but: HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE!?!?

If there is ONE person on this earth that DOES NOT know what the Koran says then it's YOU!!! So do yourself a favor and stop making yourself ridicilous by selling all this nonsense...

[tha_timinator]

don't misunderstand me; what happend in NY is horrible but the thing that offends me is you saying terrorism equals islam... i think people like you saying crap like this is just as dangerous for the world as terrorists telling muslims to kill americans...

coz you gotta understand that those insane terrorists ABUSE the islam by saying the koran tells them to do what they do! the problem is; you believe them! in fact the koran doesn't tell to kill americans or anything like that... it's just the way in which those terrorists try to get support for their actions in the muslim world...

so in short; please first know what you're talking about before making hard statements on this subject...

[YoYoBean]

I think 12 boy might end up dead from some arab sniper dude! LMAO

[12clicks]

timmy, dopey, you need to smarten up. islam is financing these terrorist. therefore ALL of islam is the problem.
When you get out of high school, you might see the world a little more clearly.

[CDSmith]

If terrorism doesn't equal Islam, then how come we are seeing small children of Afghanistan and Pakistan and other countries being educated to hate the USA? Their daily education revolves around their religion (Islamic,muslim) and as part of that belief system they are taught from an early age that the west and particularly the USA is something to be reviled. This is now becoming common knowledge, and this is what will eventually cause a world war III if anything will. People that want to pussyfoot around and take a soft line on this terrroristic groundswell are just as much a danger to our society as the terrorists themselves.

As G. Dubya says, "if you're not with us, you're against us, and heaven help those that are against us"
Get it? Bozos.
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[nemesis]

12 clicks;

Fucking terrorists who hit the wtc were not illiterate. This does not have much to do with being educated or not. Usama fuck laden is a fucking freak like hitler. Do we blame all germans for the things happened in the past?

Btw, taliban is a terrorist organization in afganistan. They were never elected by the citizens.Basically taliban got power by selling drugs and then they took over the government. They killed fucking so many afganians to keep governing the country. And I will just write a conclusion just because it seems like you do not understand anything..

In conclusion; Even blaming people from afganistan is totally wrong, because they had no chance to stop taliban. US is not fighting against a religion or a race or afganians.
The fucking enemy is the taliban and the usama fuck laden not the all muslims or arabs.

Also, I asked a question and got no reply. do you want to the books?

[This message has been edited by nemesis (edited 10-28-2001).]

[Yas]

Posted by 12 clicks

"anyone just see dateline?
another muslim claiming innocence and sorrow for the 11th while supplying money to terrorist groups.
what will it take for America to kick these killers out of our country?
As I've said all along. ALL of these muslims in the US are giving money directly to the people killing us.
"oh no, its for the mosque"
"no, you've got it wrong, its for the victims of israel"
"no, we don't believe in killing"

They kill for their religion, why wouldn't they lie?"


"yeah, I'm against religions that advocate killing and promise paradise for those who commit it.

soulrebel doesn't seem to mind it."

"If we stop feeding the countries that hate us, there will eventually be no countries that hate us"

"timmy, dopey, you need to smarten up. islam is financing these terrorist. therefore ALL of islam is the problem.
When you get out of high school, you might see the world a little more clearly. "

12 clicks - that's why I respect you

And all your dumb fucks that defend Islam on this board - you are those people in America that get referred around the world as "Dumb Americans" and because of YOU a great country like America gets fucked up the ass by some illiterate muslim goat fuckers.

WITHOUT ISLAM THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE!

[tha_timinator]

Originally posted by 12clicks:
timmy, dopey, you need to smarten up. islam is financing these terrorist.

Where the h#ck did you hear that nonsense!?!?

therefore ALL of islam is the problem.
When you get out of high school, you might see the world a little more clearly.

About seeing the world clearly; the world like you see it is the one brought to you by CNN... do you call _that_ a clear world?! whoahaha, and you call ME naive, haha

[12clicks]

Originally posted by nemesis:
12 clicks;

Usama fuck laden is a fucking freak like hitler. Do we blame all germans for the things happened in the past?

[This message has been edited by nemesis (edited 10-28-2001).]

um, genius *DURING* the war we sure did.

And as far as wanting your books go, shove them up your ass. They obviously didn't do you any good.
Let me know if you want to learn anything about history I'll send you over as many books as you can handle out of my personal library.

[12clicks]

timmy, its easy to be critical when you come from a country so far out of the loop.

[Yas]

nemesis you are so fucking retarded
what the fuck do you think will happen if Osama gets captured?

He'll either go to prison for life or get executed. Thus becomming a martyr of Islam and before you know it there's millions of muslims following his example.

And what the fuck is this bullshit about the Taliban

Don't you fucking know that every muslim country has its own terrorist organization
Just to name a few:
Hisbulah, Islamic Jihad, KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army) - even a fucked muslim countty like Albania has its own terrorist organization.
Even Pakistan that is waving the anti-terrorist flag now is known to harbor and train terrorists (Ask any guy from India and you'll learn) plus Pakistan was one of the countries to play a major role in the Taliban's take over.
ALSO Pakistan still maintains official diplomatic relations with the Taliban government.

[nemesis]

Originally posted by Yas:
Posted by 12 clicks

"anyone just see dateline?
another muslim claiming innocence and sorrow for the 11th while supplying money to terrorist groups.
what will it take for America to kick these killers out of our country?
As I've said all along. ALL of these muslims in the US are giving money directly to the people killing us.
"oh no, its for the mosque"
"no, you've got it wrong, its for the victims of israel"
"no, we don't believe in killing"

They kill for their religion, why wouldn't they lie?"


"yeah, I'm against religions that advocate killing and promise paradise for those who commit it.

soulrebel doesn't seem to mind it."

"If we stop feeding the countries that hate us, there will eventually be no countries that hate us"

"timmy, dopey, you need to smarten up. islam is financing these terrorist. therefore ALL of islam is the problem.
When you get out of high school, you might see the world a little more clearly. "

12 clicks - that's why I respect you

And all your dumb fucks that defend Islam on this board - you are those people in America that get referred around the world as "Dumb Americans" and because of YOU a great country like America gets fucked up the ass by some illiterate muslim goat fuckers.

WITHOUT ISLAM THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE!

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The world be a better place without the idiots like you, usama bin laden, Taliban, and other terrorist organizations.

[tha_timinator]

Originally posted by CDSmith:
If terrorism doesn't equal Islam, then how come we are seeing small children of Afghanistan and Pakistan and other countries being educated to hate the USA? Their daily education revolves around their religion (Islamic,muslim) and as part of that belief system they are taught from an early age that the west and particularly the USA is something to be reviled.

Do you _REALLY_ believe all (or most) muslim kids learn to hate the USA?? ofcourse not, plain bullshit! the thing you talk about belong to the tinytinytiny group that ABUSES the islam to rectify their crimes (as already stated in one of my former posts on this subject)... so how sick is it to say 'all muslims are terrorists' just because a tinytinytinytiny group of wacko's tells you to kill americans in name of the islam (remember the islam does NOT tell to kill americans or whatsoever at all)

This is now becoming common knowledge, and this is what will eventually cause a world war III if anything will. People that want to pussyfoot around and take a soft line on this terrroristic groundswell are just as much a danger to our society as the terrorists themselves.

As G. Dubya says, "if you're not with us, you're against us, and heaven help those that are against us"
Get it? Bozos.

Just a note; Bush said the exact same thing...