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[Labret] · 10-26-2001, 01:22 PM

Oprano repost. Better hope its not true.

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The Party is over. I was talking to a friend a couple of days ago who works at a big bank. Visa has changed the rules on 3rd party processors. Starting Nov 1. They all have to be certified. What does this mean.

Posting the Credit Card is GONE, No MORE, Later. Like everything the CE's of the world abused in the worst way then Visa punishes everyone with new rules. Shame.

My Friend told me that Website billing is GONE. Think about it CE is one of their only customers and pulling this Shit Scam and they go over the CB area. SUPRISE.

Jettis batching. Nope they have also been Axed by Visa.

I imagine this week some of the big players will get the bad news that Posting to 3rd parties processors is gone.

Did you know that Visa Now also collects your CB percentage for every 3rd party processor. They now have the right to tell 3rd party procssors that TMF clients can not process with them also.

Serge here is my prediction. 6 months from now most of the major companies will have lost the ability to take Visa/MC on all their prize domains. Want to Bet

m0rph3us · 10-26-2001, 01:29 PM

is this some kind of a joke?

What are you talking about?

corvette · 10-26-2001, 01:30 PM

Where did you see this?

[Labret] · 10-26-2001, 01:31 PM

Like I said, its an Oprano repost. I didn't write it. Its pretty self-explanatory.

I tried to post a link to Oprano but it appears to be a banned word. Nice.

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funkmaster · 10-26-2001, 01:33 PM

... don´t jump on that train mark ... this stuff always pops up every now and then ...

... may you all have a great weekend, I for sure will !!!

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stangster · 10-26-2001, 01:33 PM

I thought it was only going to affect REBILLING? All those monthly rebills..GONE!

So..don't wait now!! Sign up for a trial program today!

(check sig)

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m0rph3us · 10-26-2001, 01:33 PM

So what's that mean? No more ccbill/ibill/globill?

Huh?

Hooper · 10-26-2001, 01:34 PM

It's pretty much 100% bullshit.

The sky is falling.. the sky is falling.

Every few months there is a new rumor .

Amputate Your Head · 10-26-2001, 01:35 PM

That's not funny man. I'm gonna cry now.

quiet · 10-26-2001, 01:37 PM

yes, posted on the oprano board.

"the bad news that Posting to 3rd parties processors is gone"

'posting' generally means sharing detailed ccard info with the paysite operators. wouldn't apply to my sites in that case. ibill (and i believe ccbill) do not allow anyone else to view detailed cc info if you are using their merchant account.

[Labret] · 10-26-2001, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper:
It's pretty much 100% bullshit.

The sky is falling.. the sky is falling.

Every few months there is a new rumor .

True, I dont know how many times I have heard this one in the last 4 years. But nevertheless, everytime I hear one it makes my flesh crawl because I know one day it will come. Maybe not as bad as some people think, but everyone I have ever talked to with connection to third party processing always say change is coming and its not going to be pretty.

A purge of this industry would do it some good. It has gone unchecked for too long.

12clicks · 10-26-2001, 01:40 PM

most of us ignore the ripples in this industry,
Those of us running blow the dog sites fear every ripple.

Makaveli · 10-26-2001, 01:40 PM

Like my man Chuck D said:
"Don't Believe The Hype"

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Ludedude · 10-26-2001, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks:

Those of us running blow the dog sites fear every ripple.

Shit, you know about that 12clicks?

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Hooper · 10-26-2001, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks:
most of us ignore the ripples in this industry,
Those of us running blow the dog sites fear every ripple.

"US"???? Do tell 12clicks ;-))

12clicks · 10-26-2001, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ludedude:
Shit, you know about that 12clicks?

I'm omnipotent.

tenletters · 10-26-2001, 01:54 PM

You only get excited by old Dodge cars?

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks:
I'm omnipotent.

rhizome · 10-26-2001, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hooper:

"US"???? Do tell 12clicks ;-))

Yeah, do tell! It's not like anyone here is involved in anything like http://www.beastboy.com

12clicks · 10-26-2001, 01:55 PM

hooper, my adult business is still large enough to be envied. I sleep well at night knowing I play within the rules.

Ludedude · 10-26-2001, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks:
I'm omnipotent.

You know, I do believe the big TGP's sell stuff for that now

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12clicks · 10-26-2001, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ludedude:
You know, I do believe the big TGP's sell stuff for that now

hahaha, too fucking funny.
On that, my week is over. have a good weekend everyone.

Ludedude · 10-26-2001, 02:03 PM

Cya...enjoy the weekend

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Lensman · 10-26-2001, 02:07 PM

This is a bullshit post from some anon in respect to direct posting, EVEN if it was true, it would have ZERO IMPACT on 99% of sites today. Yet, I beleive the post was 100% made up out of thin air and has no basis in fact.

Labret shouldn't post things out of context.

[Labret] · 10-26-2001, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman:
This is a bullshit post from some anon in respect to direct posting, EVEN if it was true, it would have ZERO IMPACT on 99% of sites today. Yet, I beleive the post was 100% made up out of thin air and has no basis in fact.

Labret shouldn't post things out of context.

I merely reposted the message. There was no context that I am aware of.

Theo · 10-26-2001, 02:20 PM

I don't believe it, but as Labret said changes are coming soon or late.

[Labret] · 10-26-2001, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rhizome:
Yeah, do tell! It's not like anyone here is involved in anything like http://www.beastboy.com

Took me a minute to catch that.

Are you insinuating that I run beastboy.com?

Lemme guess how you came to that conclusion.

Boneprone4Life.com

Your a regular Sherlock Fucking Holmes... but suffice it to say, you are wrong. But you probably already knew that.

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stangster · 10-26-2001, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]:
I run beastboy.com

Tsk tsk..
shame..shame..

ElvisManson · 10-26-2001, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stangster:
Tsk tsk..
shame..shame..

I thought {Labret} was a BoneProne post-bot.

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Kimmykim · 10-26-2001, 05:13 PM

Labret = Chicken Little.

and the sky is NOT falling.

People who run a good business remain in business. People who either don't or won't run their businesses well tend to fade away.

[Labret] · 10-26-2001, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim:
Labret = Chicken Little.

and the sky is NOT falling.

People who run a good business remain in business. People who either don't or won't run their businesses well tend to fade away.

For the third time. But giving that you are a blonde I understand.

It was a reeeeepooooooooost.

Due · 10-26-2001, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ElvisManson:
I thought {Labret} was a BoneProne post-bot.

Can you get BOT's that will run your sites now? Cool think I want one of them

boneprone · 10-26-2001, 06:24 PM

scarry shit

Jack Dare · 10-26-2001, 08:00 PM

This type of hysteria has been going on for years, but it never follows through. Why? The adult business is wwaaaayy too profitable for the banks. They will NEVER shut it down. Maybe they will clean out cheaters here and there, but stay clean and you're fine.

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Lensman · 10-26-2001, 10:12 PM

Sounds like it's true, a post from the owner of CCBill:

What a Crazy Day.

One anon comes on a board and makes
my phone ring off the hook

))

Ok the truth is.

Yes Visa has new rules for 3rd party processors. Our Group is being moved to a new classification call PSP (Payment Service Providers). We are being treated more like banks. One of the most major changes is the protection of credit cards and who has access to this data. So yes it is true that Posting of data will now no longer be available. There are a few other things that we have to do, but it should be business as normal. Looks like all the 3rd party processors will all be on a Panel in a couple of weeks at adultdex to talk about this in more detail if people still have questions. (there you go faye shameless plug for Adultdex.com)

The bottom line in my opinion is that this will be a great thing for our industry. The more straight forward we are about charging customers the more creditability we will have as an industry.

KK I will let you answer any more questions from here.

GO DIAMONDBACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ron C

[Labret] · 10-26-2001, 11:05 PM

KK, Lensman, anyone else in the know...

What exactly is going to be the impact (if any) on small to medium sized pay sites that obviously require 3rd party processing?

Will it impact revsharing? Rebilling? How chargebacks are handled?

Lensman · 10-26-2001, 11:13 PM

O impact, this is strictly about direct posting (paysites collecting credit card numbers), which apparently won't be allowed anymore.

Like I said, 99% of sites are unaffected.

the indigo · 10-27-2001, 12:00 AM

Whoah, don't play with my nerves like this!! :-)

Gary · 10-27-2001, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman:
O impact, this is strictly about direct posting (paysites collecting credit card numbers), which apparently won't be allowed anymore.

Like I said, 99% of sites are unaffected.

Thats probably a good thing. There seems to be something wrong with sites automatically signing people up for other sites. Especially if i'm not getting a piece of the action.

Kimmykim · 10-28-2001, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lensman:
O impact, this is strictly about direct posting (paysites collecting credit card numbers), which apparently won't be allowed anymore.

Like I said, 99% of sites are unaffected.

Bingo Lens, you hit the nail on the head. We've only got 1 customer left on post and they are being switched over now. Most other processors have a few and they are switching them to as I understand it.

This doesn't affect rebills, doesn't affect processing, it's simply a matter of giving Visa the security they require from third party processors.

And yes, Labret, I am blonde. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be tho.

EricH · 10-29-2001, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]:
My Friend told me that Website billing is GONE....

Websitebilling isn't going anywhere. As far as the talk of new rules, we welcome any industry regulations that will further protect consumers and be enforced thoroughly and evenly.

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pr0view · 10-29-2001, 09:01 AM

so, actually, nothing happened

visa should have done that ages ago...

btw, i do have a Q... ya know what sexkey is doing? they give free access to their AVS and charge for one of their paysites from the same S-U form... do the new changes mean that this can't happen any more? i mean, if posting is denied, then that should be impossible from Nov 1, right?

Kimmykim · 10-29-2001, 11:49 AM

Buy one get one free is not prohibited. Keeping a copy of the surfers cc number is what this is all about.

10-26-2001, 01:22 PM	#1
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	The Party Is Over Oprano repost. Better hope its not true. ________________ SilverCash, CE The Party is over. I was talking to a friend a couple of days ago who works at a big bank. Visa has changed the rules on 3rd party processors. Starting Nov 1. They all have to be certified. What does this mean. Posting the Credit Card is GONE, No MORE, Later. Like everything the CE's of the world abused in the worst way then Visa punishes everyone with new rules. Shame. My Friend told me that Website billing is GONE. Think about it CE is one of their only customers and pulling this Shit Scam and they go over the CB area. SUPRISE. Jettis batching. Nope they have also been Axed by Visa. I imagine this week some of the big players will get the bad news that Posting to 3rd parties processors is gone. Did you know that Visa Now also collects your CB percentage for every 3rd party processor. They now have the right to tell 3rd party procssors that TMF clients can not process with them also. Serge here is my prediction. 6 months from now most of the major companies will have lost the ability to take Visa/MC on all their prize domains. Want to Bet

10-26-2001, 01:29 PM	#2
m0rph3us Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Principality of Sealand Posts: 2,033	is this some kind of a joke? What are you talking about?

10-26-2001, 01:30 PM	#3
corvette Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 7,880	Where did you see this?

10-26-2001, 01:31 PM	#4
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	Like I said, its an Oprano repost. I didn't write it. Its pretty self-explanatory. I tried to post a link to Oprano but it appears to be a banned word. Nice. ********** [This message has been edited by [Labret] (edited 10-26-2001).]

10-26-2001, 01:33 PM	#5
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	... don´t jump on that train mark ... this stuff always pops up every now and then ... ... may you all have a great weekend, I for sure will !!! ------------------ Don't innovate - imitate! ... giving away mass traffic for free !!

10-26-2001, 01:33 PM	#6
stangster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,126	I thought it was only going to affect REBILLING? All those monthly rebills..GONE! So..don't wait now!! Sign up for a trial program today! (check sig) ------------------ TopBucks - $40 per trial! $250 sign up bonus! Young Latina 1 in 300 latina site. Sell big dick pills! - 1 in 115 ratios!

10-26-2001, 01:34 PM	#8
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	It's pretty much 100% bullshit. The sky is falling.. the sky is falling. Every few months there is a new rumor .

10-26-2001, 01:35 PM	#9
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	That's not funny man. I'm gonna cry now.

10-26-2001, 01:37 PM	#10
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	yes, posted on the oprano board. "the bad news that Posting to 3rd parties processors is gone" 'posting' generally means sharing detailed ccard info with the paysite operators. wouldn't apply to my sites in that case. ibill (and i believe ccbill) do not allow anyone else to view detailed cc info if you are using their merchant account.

10-26-2001, 01:40 PM	#12
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	most of us ignore the ripples in this industry, Those of us running blow the dog sites fear every ripple.

10-26-2001, 01:40 PM	#13
Makaveli Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,027	Like my man Chuck D said: "Don't Believe The Hype" ------------------ Submit To Green Thumbs TGP.Com Sarcastic Bastards.Com Webmaster Board

10-26-2001, 01:55 PM	#19
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	hooper, my adult business is still large enough to be envied. I sleep well at night knowing I play within the rules.

10-26-2001, 02:03 PM	#22
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	Cya...enjoy the weekend ------------------ Make BANK with these Babes! The Webmaster's Folder The Midnight TGP2 Submitter

10-26-2001, 02:07 PM	#23
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	This is a bullshit post from some anon in respect to direct posting, EVEN if it was true, it would have ZERO IMPACT on 99% of sites today. Yet, I beleive the post was 100% made up out of thin air and has no basis in fact. Labret shouldn't post things out of context.

10-26-2001, 02:20 PM	#25
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	I don't believe it, but as Labret said changes are coming soon or late.

10-26-2001, 05:13 PM	#29
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Labret = Chicken Little. and the sky is NOT falling. People who run a good business remain in business. People who either don't or won't run their businesses well tend to fade away.

10-26-2001, 06:24 PM	#32
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	scarry shit

10-26-2001, 08:00 PM	#33
Jack Dare Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: In a Podcast Posts: 120	This type of hysteria has been going on for years, but it never follows through. Why? The adult business is wwaaaayy too profitable for the banks. They will NEVER shut it down. Maybe they will clean out cheaters here and there, but stay clean and you're fine. ------------------ ThumbFarm.com - Submit Galleries & Trade Traffic! 50,000 hits/day and growing! StellarCash.com - Earn CA$H + Get Traffic Back! VoyeurPost.com - Trades Wanted! YOU Control Exit Traffic!

10-26-2001, 10:12 PM	#34
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	Sounds like it's true, a post from the owner of CCBill: What a Crazy Day. One anon comes on a board and makes my phone ring off the hook )) Ok the truth is. Yes Visa has new rules for 3rd party processors. Our Group is being moved to a new classification call PSP (Payment Service Providers). We are being treated more like banks. One of the most major changes is the protection of credit cards and who has access to this data. So yes it is true that Posting of data will now no longer be available. There are a few other things that we have to do, but it should be business as normal. Looks like all the 3rd party processors will all be on a Panel in a couple of weeks at adultdex to talk about this in more detail if people still have questions. (there you go faye shameless plug for Adultdex.com) The bottom line in my opinion is that this will be a great thing for our industry. The more straight forward we are about charging customers the more creditability we will have as an industry. KK I will let you answer any more questions from here. GO DIAMONDBACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ron C

10-26-2001, 11:05 PM	#35
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	KK, Lensman, anyone else in the know... What exactly is going to be the impact (if any) on small to medium sized pay sites that obviously require 3rd party processing? Will it impact revsharing? Rebilling? How chargebacks are handled?

10-26-2001, 11:13 PM	#36
Lensman GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com Posts: 9,846	O impact, this is strictly about direct posting (paysites collecting credit card numbers), which apparently won't be allowed anymore. Like I said, 99% of sites are unaffected.

10-27-2001, 12:00 AM	#37
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	Whoah, don't play with my nerves like this!! :-)

10-29-2001, 09:01 AM	#41
pr0view Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 270	so, actually, nothing happened visa should have done that ages ago... btw, i do have a Q... ya know what sexkey is doing? they give free access to their AVS and charge for one of their paysites from the same S-U form... do the new changes mean that this can't happen any more? i mean, if posting is denied, then that should be impossible from Nov 1, right?

10-29-2001, 11:49 AM	#42
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Buy one get one free is not prohibited. Keeping a copy of the surfers cc number is what this is all about.