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Old 09-24-2001, 03:58 AM   #1
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To money of Porncash....

Firstly, sorry Everyone for posting this on the GFY board, but since Porncash don't answer emails, I had no choice.

Money,
I know you read this board, so read my proposal:
You owe me $1576. I have been waiting for 8 weeks, with no reply from you.

Instead of just ripping me off, why don't we do something good with the money.
Send me a wire for what you owe me and I will go and spend it all at webmasters4america.com Anything I have left over, I will donate to Red Cross.

I will show everyone at this board the receipts, then you know you have done something good.

I would rather MY money go to a good cause, than to sit in your dirty pockets!

If Porncash really does pay its webmasters, I will expect to see the money in my account this week!

Wildman.
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Old 09-24-2001, 04:52 AM   #2
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sue everyone that owns you money!
friend of mine is a good lawyer.. useful to have those friends...
i still donīt understand why you ask so friendly for your cash.. if you didnīt cheat its your money! 1500 bucks ... thats worth to sue someone

my 2 1/2 cents

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Old 09-24-2001, 07:06 AM   #3
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"Money" should change his handle to "Keeping all the money".

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Old 09-26-2001, 08:14 PM   #4
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LOL. It's funny that moneys little adventure to defend his companies reputation turned out with him hiding his head in shame. Fucking scammers. Can't even donate the money he's ripped off to the Red Cross..

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Old 09-26-2001, 09:11 PM   #5
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ok they don't pay,,,,

i remember they was the first sponser to snail mail me their program info on a disk

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Old 09-27-2001, 06:57 AM   #6
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Yeah, they are good with their Spam, pity they don't pay their webmasters.

The guy who runs it is known for ripping-off webmasters. He also runs click for sex which also ripped-off a bunch of webmasters. Its amazing how many webmasters have been ripped-off by this guy after I asked around.

Anyone have any ideas how I can get the money he owes me in time for the webmasters4america.com auction?

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Old 09-28-2001, 01:19 AM   #7
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PornCash owes me almost $2,000 and I haven't seen a fuckin dime! Jon has stopped answering my ICQ's and emails too ... I'm fuckin pissed.
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Old 09-29-2001, 06:47 AM   #8
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Tadow,

Let me know if you recieve payment, or he contacts you.

Looks like he is up to his old tricks!

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Old 09-30-2001, 07:59 PM   #9
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Let?s get something straight wildman. WE are not up to any tricks....

1. You sent us 126 signups total.
2. 98 [78%]had cancelled in the first 3 days of trial. [our average is 45% cancel]
3. 123 of them have cancelled now [just 3 weeks after you stopped sending traffic]

Your account statistics are so far off the bottom of the bell curve that your accounts behavior is a virtual impossibility....

If it smells like shit, feels like shit and looks like shit.....

Before the usual suspects pop up and blurt out how bad we are blah blah - think about whether you support someone who is actively cheating the system and thereby lowering what can be paid to everyone else.

On another theme you raised.... The porncash group makes significant donations to a variety of charities, we have strong beliefs in this regard and suggesting that we donate money based on how much we supposedly "owe" a cheat is neither logical nor helpful, in fact it is fairly offensive.... charity is a private thing in my view and should not be used for a PR stunt.


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Old 10-01-2001, 12:35 AM   #10
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Well, didnt it take you a while to reply!

Firstly, you can call cheater as much as you want....just show me the proof. I send traffic, thats all. I want to know how I have cheated your program. You know where my traffic came from, so tell me how I cheated?

Secondly, I would not have brought this issue to the public board, but as I stated, you havent answered any of my 5 emails. Why is that?

So Money, if you are such an honest guy, tell me why You havent paid me, and if you think its because I may have cheated, Show Me the Proof!

Also, why have you paid Backov and Tadow? Did they 'cheat' also?

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Old 10-01-2001, 04:40 PM   #11
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You can add me to that list. Porncash owes me $1462, and I KNOW I never cheated.
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Old 10-01-2001, 06:31 PM   #12
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If anyone has any questions I'd be happy to answer them by email. money at porncash dot com - you generally get an answer within the hour.

As for the anons - we generally don't read this board more than once a month, so you are wasting your time. Most of the people claiming they have not been paid can be narrowed down to one or two cheats who are annoyed they got caught! Posting on this board anon is open to abuse.... so don't believe everything you read!



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Old 10-02-2001, 06:22 PM   #13
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Money,

I emailed you over 24 hours ago, and for the 6th time.....no answer.

Instead of just fucking me around, why dont you give me an answer?

And what is this bullshit about anon posting??? We have 4 people on this thread that are owed over $1000 each from you. Are you saying we are all cheaters?

You have managed to show that Porncash just rips off its webmasters. Obviously once an account gets over $1000 you dont pay them. Your just a lying scumbag!

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Old 10-02-2001, 06:40 PM   #14
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As for the anons - we generally don't read this board more than once a month, so you are wasting your time. Most of the people claiming they have not been paid can be narrowed down to one or two cheats who are annoyed they got caught! Posting on this board anon is open to abuse.... so don't believe everything you read!
Who's anon? I am hardly anon. The domain in my sig is in my real name. You declined to send me my last check. The other posters are anon as well? I guess they should just trust you and deal with you in private? LOL. You never answered a single one of my emails either, until I bitched at you about spamming me, after which you promptly said "Oh, it's not spam, it's opt in" and "We pay people that don't cheat us"

As for Wildman - you said he sent you 126 signups and 78% cancelled.. So you're saying that he somehow sent you 98 or so "fake" signups? Or encouraged them to cancel? I assume that you looked at the urls he was sending from? Basically, what it boils down to is that your site didn't retain after the free trial for Wildman's traffic. So, you decided to rip him off. And a lot of other people it looks like. You can make up excuses til the cows come home, that doesn't make you any less scummy.

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Old 10-06-2001, 06:32 AM   #15
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I've got nothing bad to say about Porncash,
Back in July Tommy from Tommys-Bookmarks told me about porncash and said promote Porncash and make some good extra money. I put together some gallerys and I asked money from porncash to check out my URLs that Im using to promote porncash to make sure all is ok, money responded, everthing looks great. I started promoting the hell out of Porncash, I went from 36 GIG a month in bandwidth to 240 GIG a month. Im still getting sign-ups to date. I have noticed a slow down in sales also, but I went from promoting ONLY porncash to others now.

I'm noticing with what im reading on this board, and the fact I haven't received a check in 8 weeks, Im getting worried. I've talked to Tommy who referred me to promote Porncash and he assures me Porncash will pay me He's 100% sure of that, I hope he is right. I've talked to two other webmasters that promote Porncash, and they get paid. They say, they do pay late, but they DO PAY! I hope they are right. I would think if my account was dead or suspended, traffic and sales would have stopped or I would be notified, right?

Until then, I continue to promote Porncash and watch the sales add up.

anyone at Porncash please ICQ and let me know all is ok
37991616

thank you
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Old 10-06-2001, 06:56 AM   #16
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They sent me the first check... waiting on the missing $4500+ since Tue 18 Sep 2001. Hurry up guys, lots of hungry people here... with money to pay a lawer :-))
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Old 10-07-2001, 07:49 AM   #17
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I have been using porncash since July and other than a few weeks in aug which they are caught up with now, they wire my money like clockwork every tuesday between $2500 and $3500. Then again I send only search engine traffic. If your sign ups cancel as much as I am sure they do you are sending them shit sign ups and personally I dont want you fucking up something that is supporting my family very very well. I have had no problems since that few weeks in Aug. with them.
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Old 10-07-2001, 08:16 AM   #18
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Not to start shit here... but can somebody with more than 2 posts say something positive?
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Old 10-07-2001, 08:30 AM   #19
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... well, I donīt have 800 posts under my name, but I do know the owner in person and have done some buiz with him almost 2 years ago (the program he was running was under a different domain though, expressbucks or something like that ...). I had my money wired and never had any problems. I couldnīt say anything negative about him, although there have been many complaints about his program lately ....

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Old 10-07-2001, 09:31 AM   #20
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Maybe I only have 3 posts because I do not have time to post to message boards. I am too busy building sites.
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Old 10-07-2001, 11:29 AM   #21
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"2. 98 [78%]had cancelled in the first 3 days of trial. [our average is 45% cancel]"
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Old 10-07-2001, 01:11 PM   #22
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I signed up for teen-anal a while ago to see what I would be promoting.
Let me tell you, I haven't seen such a rip off in my entire life. Their sites are trying to scam every last cent out of their members. Once inside almost everything is "premium member content" for wich you've got to pay allot extra (only noticable when you read the small prints, wich also states things like "when you give your password to someone else we'll bill you twice."). And their billing company supabill (same company as porncash) is even worse. It's everything but customer friendly and their terms are outright ridiculous.
I can imagine that their chargback ratio is way above what the creditcard companies allow and that they've got some big fines on the way.
When a company screws it's members this big they'll probably screw their webmasters too.
In my opinion these guys shouldn't be in this biz.
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Old 10-08-2001, 09:19 AM   #23
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BumpUglz, 8 weeks without a Check??? You better not need that money! They are supposed to pay weekly. I never got informed when my account was suspended!

To everybody who thinks Porncash is ok, just ask around on some other boards like Netpond. Ask them if they know a guy called Jon Atherton from Porncash & Click For Sex. I think you will become more worried when you hear about his reputation for not paying webmasters.

Wildman.

PS. There is almost $10,000 owed to webmasters on this thread alone. Enough to pay a debt collector?
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Old 10-08-2001, 12:14 PM   #24
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Just got my first check. It was only a couple hundred bucks - not 1000's like some of yours. I think it was for the week of sept 19th.

Hope things work out for the rest of you.

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Old 10-08-2001, 07:42 PM   #25
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I was posting here with the hopes someone from Porncash will respond to me

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Old 10-09-2001, 03:39 PM   #26
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I am still expecting my first check ($100)!

money, you wrote above
> If anyone has any questions I'd be happy to answer them by email. money at porncash dot com - you generally get an answer within the hour.
I sent you message by email and via your helpdesk a week ago, but nobody answered me.
I could earn more money for both you and me, but I still don't trust you.

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Old 10-09-2001, 09:18 PM   #27
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I've emailed several times also

anyone from Porncash please email me or ICQ me anytime and let me know all is ok with my account

[email protected]

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Old 10-14-2001, 02:36 PM   #28
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Great News from Porncash. I emailed to check the status on my account and why I havent been paid in 11 weeks

I got a reply from money saying, seems like my account had been suspended, but after reviewing my account, he decided to pay me, my checks will be going out on tuesday

I will continue to promote and sell Porncash

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Old 10-14-2001, 03:07 PM   #29
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If your check doesn't show up, you should get together with a bunch of their affiliates and file a class action suit. Once you do that, you probably will get your money and can drop the case without ever actually going to court.

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Old 10-14-2001, 05:17 PM   #30
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Ummm... am i the ONLY one here who sees something wrong with having to call and ask for your money 11 weeks past due... and then resuming promotion?

I've got a bridge that i'd be happy to sell you.
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Old 10-14-2001, 10:15 PM   #31
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well if all goes well, why not stick with it.
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Old 10-14-2001, 10:18 PM   #32
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well if all goes well, why not stick with it.
At this point if you don't get it I just need to call you an idiot & tell you that you deserve whatever you get.

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Old 10-15-2001, 12:26 AM   #33
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BumpUglyz,

I wouldnt get too excited just yet. Its very easy to say to a webmaster that he will get paid, its another thing to actually get paid!

And you are going to keep using them? Wow, what does it take for you to learn your lesson????

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Old 10-15-2001, 04:20 AM   #34
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Lets see how it goes tuesday. Maybe its wishfull thinking on my part. I've talked to a few webmaters that say they pay late, but they do pay. I've waited this long, whats one more day

Wildman, have you ever been paid?

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Old 10-15-2001, 06:28 AM   #35
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Yes, I was paid for a while.
Once I moved a lot of my traffic to them they decided not to pay me. They didnt tell me my account was 'suspended' either.

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Old 10-15-2001, 06:32 AM   #36
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Ummm... am i the ONLY one here who sees something wrong with having to call and ask for your money 11 weeks past due... and then resuming promotion?

I've got a bridge that i'd be happy to sell you.
Dont all sponsors work this way? I wouldnt know, cause i dont have a website, but i just assumed thats how it worked.

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Old 10-15-2001, 08:00 AM   #37
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Dont all sponsors work this way? I wouldnt know, cause i dont have a website, but i just assumed thats how it worked.

It seems quite afew around this part of town do.

Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
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Old 10-15-2001, 10:40 AM   #38
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An opinion is only worth what you pay for it, but mine is that they have a great program !!

I can only speak for myself, but I get wires every week, typically not a single day late, and they respond to messages in a very timely mannor.

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Old 10-15-2001, 06:13 PM   #39
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I just wanted to say that I got that check I wrote above!
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Old 10-28-2001, 03:45 PM   #40
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Hi all,

Just to let you know about my checks I've been waiting on for 11 weeks. I got that FAT check this weekend. All is great here. I've emailed porncash back and forth and he took the time to explain to me, and all is great now, and Im still promoting porncash. Im all up to date

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