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Aric	01-07-2005 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawgy

i know tons of people still sending to ibill supported companies, like ars, who ive heard are being paid & have never missed a payment. which makes me wonder if ibill will survive, marc is a smart guy and i cant see him gambling like that if he wasnst confident theyd pull thru...

still tho, what ibill is doing is criminal and i hope they fry.

Maybe you don't know the whole story? :)

Hinc	01-07-2005 09:48 PM

I´d be surprised if anyone knwew the full story...

Screaming

01-07-2005 09:52 PM

another excuse on the long line of them

SodomHussein

01-08-2005 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dawgy

Perhaps ARS is using Ibill as their gateway and has their own merchant account. If that is the case, Ibill isn't making payments to them. They are just scrubbing and acting as the gateway to ARS's processor. If that is not the case, than Ibill is probably selectively paying whom they choose and fucking off the rest of the webmasters that don't send them a lot of business. However, if this it the case, given Ibill's past performance, its likely that once ARS stops sending new sign-ups they won't get paid either.

Webby

01-08-2005 03:58 AM

SodomHussein:

Quote:

If that is not the case, than Ibill is probably selectively paying whom they choose and fucking off the rest of the webmasters that don't send them a lot of business.

There is definately selective payouts happening. Some webmasters have not been paid for months - even before shit hit the fan - and other have been paid "relatively" up to date.

This is a mixed bag as far as is known - some are smaller revenue generators, others more substantial. The sampling I know of are a mix of both US and EU webmasters - tho why the fuck the EU has not been paid, hell knows. There is no known problem with EU bank payments to iBill and it would appear they are taking the EU bank funds and allocating as they see fit into one melting pot.

ibill-fraud

01-08-2005 04:51 AM

It use to be back in the old days before the Jason scam team took over, you always had the option of switching to Ibill's processing plus which meant you got your own merchant account and just used Ibill's software as a gateway paying a flat fee of $1 per transaction. This way you were paid daily from your merchant. But now they won't let you move your rebills over to processing plus.

Well come payday, will be interesting to see just how many people Ibill decides to screw over. And the people that do get paid will probably have to wait at least another 2 months to get another 2 weeks worth of pay.

jennycards

01-09-2005 01:44 PM

Quote:

Hello xxxx,

Thank you for contacting the iBill Payables Department.

In regards to your request:

*****
I placed an iBill signup button on our webpage again and am also
receiving some sign-ups.

Would you please confirm my account has been re-activated for payouts.
*****

iBill has received three signups for this month therefore, we are unable to resume payout at this time. Once the volume of new signups coming from your site then your account then another review of your account can be done to resume payout.
Any changes that will affect payout needs to be done at least 10 business days before the next scheduled payout.

So don't believe it's enough to send them a FEW signups.

:ak47: iBill

DarkJedi

01-09-2005 01:49 PM

Set them up as a secondary processor.

VeriSexy

01-09-2005 01:53 PM

After all the complaints, people are still using IBILL? :helpme

jennycards

01-09-2005 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Set them up as a secondary processor.

I did that. See my posting above!

Hinc	01-09-2005 02:12 PM

Hmmm theyre getting greedy even, wouldnt exactly think they were in a position to be picky about people actually sending some new signups....

Zprogramz

01-09-2005 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeriSexy

After all the complaints, people are still using IBILL? :helpme

It is certainly bewildering, isn't it?

Z

Webby

01-09-2005 03:46 PM

jennycards:

Quote:

Oh nice one!!! :-) I suppose this was from some anonymous in "payables"?

Excuse me being slow on the uptake :-)

BUT... Is this a company that owes you money for several months and forgot to pay and also the reason you avoid sending them business?

Is this a company that is in breach of contract due to it's failure to pay?

Damn.. this is so sweet. If they did that to me, I'd be forced to set up temporary office across from Broward Courthouse along with some others more expert and settle in there doing daily filings for claims for everything from breach of contract to issuing bounced checks, - plus all costs, interest and damages.

You know that this iBill "policy" has nada chance in hell of being confirmed in front of a judge?? Judges usually start off on the premise that common sense exists.

PS ... That office in Broward was seriously on the table as an option - and remains so. Just waiting for the legals to consult between themselves and come up with, excuse the term, a way forward :-)

Webby

01-09-2005 03:48 PM

Zprogramz

Quote:

It is certainly bewildering, isn't it?

If you find it "bewildering" that webmasters want to claim funds owing to them from a defaulting creditor - you need a shrink or ain't got a clue.

Zprogramz

01-09-2005 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

Zprogramz

If you find it "bewildering" that webmasters want to claim funds owing to them from a defaulting creditor - you need a shrink or ain't got a clue.

I have such a clue that I have gotten away from 3rd party processors except as a backup to my merchant accounts where I have access to ALL of the data. Anyone still using Ibill as a pimary is completely cluseless. I have seen plenty of sites still doing so.

Z

Webby

01-09-2005 04:00 PM

Quote:

Agree totally on merchant accounts! Tho that is another story :-)

As for others still using em? There may be some, but I suspect all others are purely interested in debt recovery. Tho I doubt I'd be interested in pandering to people like iBill and even making any attempt to send them one signup.

They breached their contracts with clients. They owe funds from the past - often six months or more overdue. These debts need "enforcing".

Anyone who would deal with them in future is certainly clueless.

Hinc	01-09-2005 04:09 PM

Btw...Did they actually go to the fair and signup new webmasters ?

SmokeyTheBear

01-09-2005 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennycards

-------------------------
Hello xxxx,

Thank you for contacting the iBill Payables Department.

In regards to your request:

*****
I placed an iBill signup button on our webpage again and am also
receiving some sign-ups.

--------------------------

So don't believe it's enough to send them a FEW signups.

:ak47: iBill

Yes but you clearly let them know you had pulled your ibill links FIRST then put it back in .

If you really want those rebills , just say " A (*INSERT NATURAL DISASTER HERE ) had completely destroyed our website database therefor we have not been sending any new signups over the last few months , but our database has been recovered and we wil be resuming normal operations, all we need is a confirmation we will get paid in a timely fashion for our new signups and our previous re-bills your processing *

jennycards

01-10-2005 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

Oh nice one!!! :-) I suppose this was from some anonymous in "payables"?

Exactly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

You know that this iBill "policy" has nada chance in hell of being confirmed in front of a judge?? Judges usually start off on the premise that common sense exists.

I will wait and look ... my guess is they will file bancrupcy very soon. In this case I would just lose more money suing them. But maybe they surprise us.

jennycards

01-10-2005 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

Yes but you clearly let them know you had pulled your ibill links FIRST then put it back in .

Maybe that was a mistake.

Anyhow: They have their stats about average sign-ups per day/week and I am NOT willing to send them more than a very few.

Mikey_219Inc

01-10-2005 04:24 AM

time to hire Daniel Boone

Kevin2

01-10-2005 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

jennycards:

Oh nice one!!! :-) I suppose this was from some anonymous in "payables"?

Excuse me being slow on the uptake :-)

BUT... Is this a company that owes you money for several months and forgot to pay and also the reason you avoid sending them business?

Is this a company that is in breach of contract due to it's failure to pay?

Damn.. this is so sweet. If they did that to me, I'd be forced to set up temporary office across from Broward Courthouse along with some others more expert and settle in there doing daily filings for claims for everything from breach of contract to issuing bounced checks, - plus all costs, interest and damages.

You know that this iBill "policy" has nada chance in hell of being confirmed in front of a judge?? Judges usually start off on the premise that common sense exists.

PS ... That office in Broward was seriously on the table as an option - and remains so. Just waiting for the legals to consult between themselves and come up with, excuse the term, a way forward :-)

Yup I can't believe the arrogance of these pricks.

sharpx9

01-10-2005 07:19 AM

:321gfy :321gfy

SodomHussein

01-10-2005 12:37 PM

Why don't we all find a common attorney and sue ibill for breach of contract and those bounced checks. I was thought it was a crime to bounce checks... I am sure a judgement would be in our favor and it would be easily enforceable.

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