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  • nick3131
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2004
    • 1193

    #1

    IMPORTANT NEWS: For anyone using google adwords!

    It appears that google is cutting down on affiliate bidding. Very soon it will be limited to one ad per domain. Read more about it here....

    http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum81/4204.htm
    Signed nick3131

  • DEA - banned for life
    V.I.P.
    • Nov 2004
    • 7886

    #2
    they must be getting tired of tsorting through all the bullshit

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    • nick3131
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2004
      • 1193

      #3
      Originally posted by DEA
      they must be getting tired of tsorting through all the bullshit
      Actually they claim its because relevancy is endangered by multiple ads coming up for the same exact domain. In reality they are fighting a 2 front battle, 1 against click fraud, and one against affiliate misconduct. They assume that this move will help both, I rather doubt it actually.
      Signed nick3131

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      • Furious_Male
        Doing the grind since 99
        • Oct 2003
        • 16884

        #4
        Can someone post the article or text from the post.

        I am curious how will this work on those of us that use our own tours and link to join pages for a specific site?
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        • xclusive
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Apr 2004
          • 35218

          #5
          Utoh this isn't good at all

          I support MediumPimpin.com / Shemp's Outlawtgp.com /


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          • Dildozer
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2002
            • 7519

            #6
            Google just loves walking all over the small guys
            Spam link here

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            • nick3131
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2004
              • 1193

              #7
              Originally posted by Furious_Male
              Can someone post the article or text from the post.

              I am curious how will this work on those of us that use our own tours and link to join pages for a specific site?
              Go here, http://www.webmasterworld.com/

              You should be able to read it like that.
              Signed nick3131

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              • nick3131
                Confirmed User
                • Dec 2004
                • 1193

                #8
                Originally posted by Dildozer
                Google just loves walking all over the small guys
                They claim its to produce better relevancy. I think it has more to do with click fraud.
                Signed nick3131

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                • Nismo
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2002
                  • 4977

                  #9
                  Shit. This fucking sucks.
                  i buy massive xxx dating traffic.

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                  • hydro
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 4216

                    #10
                    so if somebody uses the aff link www.samplesite.com/?aff=joe somebody else can't use www.samplesite.com/?aff=john ?

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                    • hjnet
                      Confirmed User
                      • May 2002
                      • 3815

                      #11
                      Honestly I can't believe nobody of you knew that, it's a huge rumor on all SEO boards since a month.

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                      • nick3131
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 1193

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hydro
                        so if somebody uses the aff link www.samplesite.com/?aff=joe somebody else can't use www.samplesite.com/?aff=john ?
                        Yea basically. So the person who bids the most is the only one who will get any impressions.
                        Signed nick3131

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                        • bigdog
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2001
                          • 6964

                          #13
                          well don't send traffic straight to the tour, but to a landing page

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                          • hjnet
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2002
                            • 3815

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hydro
                            so if somebody uses the aff link www.samplesite.com/?aff=joe somebody else can't use www.samplesite.com/?aff=john ?
                            Nobody (well almost nobody) really knows how the new guidelines will look like, but I think landing pages will still be allowed, and if you're the only one who's advertising www.samplesite.com then you wouldn't have a problem too.
                            But if there are two Ads which link to www.samplesite.com for a keyphrase (worst case you and your sponsor) then someone will have to go, and I don't think that you can outbid your sponsor

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                            • nick3131
                              Confirmed User
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 1193

                              #15
                              Originally posted by bigdog
                              well don't send traffic straight to the tour, but to a landing page
                              I think people will start relying more heavily on things like FPA's and feeder sites. Which convert better anyway.
                              Signed nick3131

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                              • nick3131
                                Confirmed User
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 1193

                                #16
                                Originally posted by hjnet
                                Nobody (well almost nobody) really knows how the new guidelines will look like, but I think landing pages will still be allowed, and if you're the only one who's advertising www.samplesite.com then you wouldn't have a problem too.
                                But if there are two Ads which link to www.samplesite.com for a keyphrase (worst case you and your sponsor) then someone will have to go, and I don't think that you can outbid your sponsor
                                This is actually alot better then i expected. At one point it seemed that they were going to cut off affiliate bidding all together.
                                Signed nick3131

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                                • Tuga
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Nov 2002
                                  • 7678

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by bigdog
                                  well don't send traffic straight to the tour, but to a landing page

                                  That is so obvious, even if google didnt force you to do it.

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                                  • Furious_Male
                                    Doing the grind since 99
                                    • Oct 2003
                                    • 16884

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by nick3131
                                    Go here, http://www.webmasterworld.com/

                                    You should be able to read it like that.
                                    Thanks got it.
                                    Living in Virtual Reality
                                    Contact: Email (preferred): furiousmale .at. gmail - Skype: live:shanedws

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                                    • Furious_Male
                                      Doing the grind since 99
                                      • Oct 2003
                                      • 16884

                                      #19
                                      I do that already so this shouldn't affect me much. But untill Google makes an official announcement we can only speculate.
                                      Living in Virtual Reality
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                                      • Furious_Male
                                        Doing the grind since 99
                                        • Oct 2003
                                        • 16884

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by nick3131
                                        I think people will start relying more heavily on things like FPA's and feeder sites. Which convert better anyway.
                                        I meant to quote you on my post above ^^
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                                        • nick3131
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Dec 2004
                                          • 1193

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Tuga
                                          That is so obvious, even if google didnt force you to do it.
                                          The funny thing about it is, all those "make millions at home" e-books about google adwords teach everyone to send straight to the link code. I would assume that 80% of affiliate bidders dont know any other way of sending traffic. Most likely have very little HTML knowledge if any.
                                          Signed nick3131

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                                          • hjnet
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • May 2002
                                            • 3815

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by nick3131
                                            This is actually alot better then i expected. At one point it seemed that they were going to cut off affiliate bidding all together.
                                            I think that they're still going to cut off the affiliate, it would only have advantages for Google if they do so, less trademark troubles, better SE-Results and companies itself can spend more than affiliates. They only have to wait until the time is ready for it, but I'm pretty sure they'll make life harder and harder for Affiliates in the next few years.

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                                            • nick3131
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2004
                                              • 1193

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by hjnet
                                              I think that they're still going to cut off the affiliate, it would only have advantages for Google if they do so, less trademark troubles, better SE-Results and companies itself can spend more than affiliates. They only have to wait until the time is ready for it, but I'm pretty sure they'll make life harder and harder for Affiliates in the next few years.
                                              How much can they do against feeders and FPA's thou. Its alot better to send traffic to a site that "sells" the product against sending it directly to the link code anyway. No offense to tour page designers, but those usually convert much better and carry more relevance. Would that still be considered affiliate bidding?
                                              Signed nick3131

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                                              • Dildozer
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Jul 2002
                                                • 7519

                                                #24
                                                In a way it's good, i mean all those affiliate programs having a blast making their affiliates pay to send them traffic might actually have to fork money out of their own fat pockets instead.
                                                Spam link here

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                                                • brizzad
                                                  holla
                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                  • 11769

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by nick3131
                                                  Go here, http://www.webmasterworld.com/

                                                  You should be able to read it like that.
                                                  you'll get banned for posting links to other forums here

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                                                  • nick3131
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                    • 1193

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by brizzad
                                                    you'll get banned for posting links to other forums here
                                                    Sorry about that, they are in a totally different industry so I didnt think it would be a problem.
                                                    Signed nick3131

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                                                    • hjnet
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • May 2002
                                                      • 3815

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Dildozer
                                                      In a way it's good, i mean all those affiliate programs having a blast making their affiliates pay to send them traffic might actually have to fork money out of their own fat pockets instead.
                                                      See Sig

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                                                      • digifan
                                                        The Profiler
                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                        • 14618

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by hjnet
                                                        See Sig
                                                        Haha cool.. you should use another color like yellow so it won't go unnoticed.

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                                                        • nick3131
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Dec 2004
                                                          • 1193

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by digifan
                                                          Haha cool.. you should use another color like yellow so it won't go unnoticed.

                                                          Yea thats a good idea
                                                          Signed nick3131

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                                                          • triumph
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Dec 2002
                                                            • 3433

                                                            #30
                                                            what about the countless searches that ebay comes up on?

                                                            They make a few million of ebay a month with that.

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                                                            • nick3131
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                              • 1193

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by triumph
                                                              what about the countless searches that ebay comes up on?

                                                              They make a few million of ebay a month with that.
                                                              They are most likely going to cut off that as well. The main problem is that most of those ads are completely irrelevant.
                                                              Signed nick3131

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                                                              • Fake Nick
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Jul 2004
                                                                • 7708

                                                                #32
                                                                GO GOOOGLE

                                                                great rule for people with good se positions

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                                                                • nick3131
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Dec 2004
                                                                  • 1193

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Fake Nick
                                                                  GO GOOOGLE

                                                                  great rule for people with good se positions
                                                                  And those who never send their traffic to link codes.
                                                                  Signed nick3131

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                                                                  • nick3131
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Dec 2004
                                                                    • 1193

                                                                    #34
                                                                    bump for anyone who missed it this morning.
                                                                    Signed nick3131

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                                                                    • keyboard warrior
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Jul 2004
                                                                      • 1435

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Google will turn into overture - it is hard to get listed on overture as an affiliate!
                                                                      - nothing here -

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                                                                      • AdultNex
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Feb 2003
                                                                        • 8985

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Time for landing page madness.

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                                                                        • Crypt
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Apr 2004
                                                                          • 2225

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by nick3131
                                                                          They are most likely going to cut off that as well. The main problem is that most of those ads are completely irrelevant.
                                                                          Even if they cut the ebay affilitate crap like this with this new rule , you have a turn around to do EXACTLY the same thing legit after the new rule. No one is using it atm , because cost are high. But i can tell you, its the next way the big Ebay aff will use on Adwords if this new rule apply.

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                                                                          • nick3131
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                                            • 1193

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by AdultNex
                                                                            Time for landing page madness.
                                                                            Your sig is the shit. When i start dipping in the sig market ill definetly copy your work.
                                                                            Signed nick3131

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