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brizzad · 01-05-2005, 09:46 AM

lots of better alternatives with more and more coming out

Femme Fa'tale · 01-05-2005, 09:48 AM

I hope not...I just bought a book on HTML so I can learn the basic in doing website

Ron Bennett · 01-05-2005, 10:07 AM

Not anytime soon.

Stick with HTML 4.01 Transitional (see http://www.w3.org for details) to better ensure such pages are still viewable/usable well into the future.

On an aside, Cobol and Fortran are still around and actively used in many applications ... things, even in computers, often don't change anywhere near as quick as people think they will.

Ron

MickeyG · 01-05-2005, 10:09 AM

html is the backbone of the web it would take many many years before its gone

brizzad · 01-05-2005, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

Cobol and Fortran are still around and actively used in many applications ...

learn something new every day

xclusive · 01-05-2005, 10:10 AM

it will always be around

Vitasoy · 01-05-2005, 11:15 AM

Well not any time soon.

NickPapageorgio · 01-05-2005, 11:17 AM

Well atleast we know a little about Sean416 now

sean416 · 01-05-2005, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MickeyG

html is the backbone of the web it would take many many years before its gone

I agree.

brizzad · 01-05-2005, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

Well atleast we know a little about Sean416 now

lol

Paraskass likes penis too

Jman · 01-05-2005, 11:20 AM

I sure hope not... How will I be able to make up a page without HTML... All the oldschool boys would be freaking out.

Nysus · 01-05-2005, 11:22 AM

The only thing making HTML 'obsolete' is the fact that you don't really need to know HTML anymore to make a website. Object oriented programs will continue to evolve and let amateurs make pretty involved sites. People used to probably put HTML on their resumes, now it would likely be Dreamweaver..

Matt

Femme Fa'tale · 01-05-2005, 11:24 AM

Man...

I'm studying HTML right now ...I want to build my own website...I start from the basic to advance...
What will be the next thing to study ?and the next?

tranza · 01-05-2005, 11:27 AM

Nobody voted yes so far...

Gunni · 01-05-2005, 11:36 AM

damn, I thought it said I like pens...

:D

Furious_Male · 01-05-2005, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MickeyG

html is the backbone of the web it would take many many years before its gone

Agreed. Its the core of the web. I cant see it going anywhere anytime soon. Just adapt with the changes thats all.

Scott McD · 01-05-2005, 11:43 AM

I voted for the penis...

feN · 01-05-2005, 12:06 PM

Not any time soon..
Takes many many years for such huge standards to die out..

siva350 · 01-05-2005, 12:07 PM

No, if html dies so will a large majority of websites on the net. Not going to happen!!

siva350 · 01-05-2005, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nysus

The only thing making HTML 'obsolete' is the fact that you don't really need to know HTML anymore to make a website. Object oriented programs will continue to evolve and let amateurs make pretty involved sites. People used to probably put HTML on their resumes, now it would likely be Dreamweaver..

Matt

I put both...

mind · 01-05-2005, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nysus

The only thing making HTML 'obsolete' is the fact that you don't really need to know HTML anymore to make a website. Object oriented programs will continue to evolve and let amateurs make pretty involved sites. People used to probably put HTML on their resumes, now it would likely be Dreamweaver..

Matt

True, however dreamweaver and other wysiwyg editors still generates HTML codes. Just because you dont see the code - doesent mean it isnt there ;)

Dont think that HTML will be going anywhere any time soon

Kevsh · 01-05-2005, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mind

True, however dreamweaver and other wysiwyg editors still generates HTML codes. Just because you dont see the code - doesent mean it isnt there ;)

Dont think that HTML will be going anywhere any time soon

Exactly. No matter how you build you pages you are still turning out HTML. Although it seems that less and less true HTML is making into each page these days - CSS, for example, is taking care of most of the formatting. XML is more about what the information means, not how to display it.

I would put this back to you: What will/can replace it? I can only see HTML being further developed and integrating XML-type features and CSS for a more complete language.

But if/when it is replaced, there's only about 4 billion pages that will have to be re-coded. Unless of course the "new" standard is backwards-compatible!

revmitcz · 01-05-2005, 12:18 PM

HTML, as it stands, I don't think will "die" for quite awhile. It might be an obscure reference, but many said Punk, Hard Rock, Metal, et al. would "die" many times over. Instead, they've just changed and evolved (for better or worse).

HTML, in that vein, will (and has) change(d) and evolve(d) into other variants (XHTML, for instance). The big hope was for XML to take over. But some experts have called it a failure.

Personally, I've switched over to hand-coding XHTML transitional and CSS. I haven't even opened GoLive in some 3-4 months. I prefer the markup, cross-browser support, and standards-compliant behaviour that modern-day browsers exhibit when pages are coded with proper, standards-compliant XHTML.

The future of the web is separating style from content. What one person will see on their top-of-the-line home computer system w/the latest and greatest browser - another person will see on their cellphone, PDA, etc. and while both will deliver identical content, the style (appearance) will be altered for the medium it is being delivered on.

Man, I've been studying this shit for too long. That sure was geeky. But, hopefully informative.

Paco, of Large Cash. · 01-05-2005, 12:26 PM

at some point in time ... maybe, but in our lifetime, nope.

Wolfy · 01-05-2005, 12:31 PM

revmitcz, that was some good shit. keep it up!

TheMob · 01-05-2005, 12:32 PM

html won't die out, it will be complimented more and more

chodadog · 01-05-2005, 12:35 PM

Of course it will. It won't be anytime soon though. It'll be years and years. At least 10 more years in my opinion. I think CSS is going to take over. XHTML is also becoming more popular. Every technology eventually dies.

revmitcz · 01-05-2005, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfy

revmitcz, that was some good shit. keep it up!

Thank you. 'Tis nice to see these last 4 months of re-learning web design from the ground up is paying off in design and in forums

You can thank LeslieSharp for approving the purchase of the books that have sped up my re-learning.

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01-05-2005, 09:46 AM	#1
brizzad holla Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: KFC Posts: 11,769	will HTML die out? lots of better alternatives with more and more coming out

01-05-2005, 10:07 AM	#3
Ron Bennett Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,653	Not anytime soon. Stick with HTML 4.01 Transitional (see http://www.w3.org for details) to better ensure such pages are still viewable/usable well into the future. On an aside, Cobol and Fortran are still around and actively used in many applications ... things, even in computers, often don't change anywhere near as quick as people think they will. Ron __________________ Domagon - Website Management and Domain Name Sales

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Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	Well not any time soon. __________________ [email protected]

01-05-2005, 09:48 AM	#2
Femme Fa'tale Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: U.S. Posts: 541	I hope not...I just bought a book on HTML so I can learn the basic in doing website

01-05-2005, 10:09 AM	#4
MickeyG Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 4,134	html is the backbone of the web it would take many many years before its gone

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01-05-2005, 11:22 AM	#12
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	The only thing making HTML 'obsolete' is the fact that you don't really need to know HTML anymore to make a website. Object oriented programs will continue to evolve and let amateurs make pretty involved sites. People used to probably put HTML on their resumes, now it would likely be Dreamweaver.. Matt __________________ What name is pr0 / Untouched Markets using these days? Untouched Markets - pr0 - Refund My Money Now Someone owes me $2,000 because they didn't do any work that was paid for pointing at pr0 / William / UntouchedMarkets See https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948258-untouchedmarkets-pr0-refund-money-post16744521.html and for more detailed see https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/948645-re-recent-bullshit-drama-explained-detail-pr0-untouched-markets.html

01-05-2005, 11:24 AM	#13
Femme Fa'tale Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: U.S. Posts: 541	Man... I'm studying HTML right now ...I want to build my own website...I start from the basic to advance... What will be the next thing to study ?and the next?

01-05-2005, 11:27 AM	#14
tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	Nobody voted yes so far... __________________ I'm just a newbie.

01-05-2005, 11:36 AM	#15
Gunni Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Barcelona Posts: 2,385	damn, I thought it said I like pens... :D

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01-05-2005, 12:06 PM	#18
feN Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ger Posts: 2,547	Not any time soon.. Takes many many years for such huge standards to die out.. __________________

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01-05-2005, 12:18 PM	#23
revmitcz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 12	HTML, as it stands, I don't think will "die" for quite awhile. It might be an obscure reference, but many said Punk, Hard Rock, Metal, et al. would "die" many times over. Instead, they've just changed and evolved (for better or worse). HTML, in that vein, will (and has) change(d) and evolve(d) into other variants (XHTML, for instance). The big hope was for XML to take over. But some experts have called it a failure. Personally, I've switched over to hand-coding XHTML transitional and CSS. I haven't even opened GoLive in some 3-4 months. I prefer the markup, cross-browser support, and standards-compliant behaviour that modern-day browsers exhibit when pages are coded with proper, standards-compliant XHTML. The future of the web is separating style from content. What one person will see on their top-of-the-line home computer system w/the latest and greatest browser - another person will see on their cellphone, PDA, etc. and while both will deliver identical content, the style (appearance) will be altered for the medium it is being delivered on. Man, I've been studying this shit for too long. That sure was geeky. But, hopefully informative. __________________ ---------------- // Rev. Mitcz Web Designer /// GG Cash

01-05-2005, 12:26 PM	#24
Paco, of Large Cash. Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: --> . <-- Posts: 2,267	at some point in time ... maybe, but in our lifetime, nope.

01-05-2005, 12:31 PM	#25
Wolfy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,574	revmitcz, that was some good shit. keep it up!

01-05-2005, 12:32 PM	#26
TheMob Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: 2006 Posts: 8,584	html won't die out, it will be complimented more and more

01-05-2005, 12:35 PM	#27
chodadog Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 9,736	Of course it will. It won't be anytime soon though. It'll be years and years. At least 10 more years in my opinion. I think CSS is going to take over. XHTML is also becoming more popular. Every technology eventually dies. __________________ 26 + 6 = 1