You repeated 5 years in caps and italics. REDUNDANT.

you said "you". REDUDANT. Quit being a little nit picking girl and answer my question.

stupid posts get stupid replys..

who cares about those asians anyway, i mean they're not even american for chrissakes

well, i wonder who will be the first to pass the billion dollar barrier

You're the one who's nitpicking at a pretty sweet deal.
grants are essentially giving the money so that's redudant as well,
and some of the loans are up to forty years interest free (which once inflation takes it's toll is pretty much giving it away as well).

I gather.

How do you reconcile the 'international effort' that allowed > 800K to die in Africa with the international effort of those ravaged by a 10 meter wave?

Money ain't going to help shit over there. Some mass sterilization and castration oughta put a dent in the AIDS epidemic though.

eveyone knows africa is fucked up but for some reason seems to go ignored i am not saying anything along those lines what i am saying is that its retarted to argue over who gives how much to who in order to make ones self feel better. There are areas ALL over the world that are greif stricken and could use aid as well but they seem to get forgoton about. Then something like this happens and people argue their nation is better for giveing more aid then another... Its a fucked up world

I personaly gave money to the releif fund and you know what after i did i saw one of those dollar a day for a starving child tv adds and though to myself wow how long have i been seeing those and ignord them.. fucked up shit when you think about it.

accually i like americans.. like anywhere some are dicks but most are nice.. your the one who came on here saying everyone hates you.. Ever hear the idea that if you think something long enough you begin to belive it.

Stop thinking everyone is against you and you may find you get along a bit better

Yet another thread sprinkled with utter contempt, hate and vitriolic bullshit from "superior" races - allegedly.

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Valid point broke!! The international effort failed miserably and continues to fail miserably.

It may be that it takes a constant barrage of images on TV screens to let the 2 second retention span work. Tho I'm sure there is a lot more to it than just that.

Africa has been abused, and is still being abused by almost all "western" countries. It's people are the "non people" - the one's who don't matter.

Amidst this shit, there are a number of countries and organizations helping, but nowhere near enough. Others just promise, have photo opportunities and do nothing and more just make stupid comments about "shit countries". Sad shit.. very sad!!!

I think I better back out of this thread.... not much to say :-)

Funny how everybody say "yeah but we in the US give yada yada yada", if it wasn't for us "yada yada yada"
USA gave a amazing 1,19 dollar per person in USA.
Example Norway is giving 39,50 dollar per person living in Norway wich make Norway the biggest donater per person.
And no I'm not from norway.
For the records, it is not only USA personal that is present, there is other countries too providing help as well :winkwink:

If i had 25 cents for every post/thread/joke/comment refering to canadians a moose loven, beer swilling, dog sled riden, plad wearing, eskamo loveing, funny looken money spending, lumberjacks id be a rich man. And if i too offence to them all id be pretty bitter.

and since you love your country so much this is for you :thumbsup

http://pix.segfault.cz/gfy/canadaprison.jpg

Rorschach:

You not know Chomsky is a terrorist Rarschach?? :-) We don't want to discuss him do we??? *lol* Let's just keep to the dumbed down level :-)

well, the general population has alot more money in norge

Yeah michael shumacher is giving more than most of them put together lol

I have alot more respect for Sandra Bullok now.. 1 mill out of her pocket.

Still hate her movies though :1orglaugh

Webby --

This may be the first time we've ever agreed on anything... I hope there are many more times.



I'm not at all trying to dimish that scope of the recent disaster. I'm just hoping people will think a little more... in general.

Due:

I never noticed one webmaster yet from the highest giving nations come on to GFY and utter garbage like "if it wasn't for us yada yada yada".

Like most countries, it looks like they have more class and don't discuss their contribution - nevermind boast about it :-)

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This is GFY broke! :winkwink:

Real life is somewhat different and I'm sure we agree on loads of stuff!! :-)

You are talking about i what govenrments gave on the behalf of 'their people'... not what average citizens are giving.

How many national broadcast networks are shelving revenue sources tonight to run a pledge drive?

The evil media in Chicago is....

It amazed me how well the UK has been doing in that respect. A couple of days ago non-government help (ie individuals and business) was up to £60 million (just over $100mil) which is a huge amount. Not bad for a small country and I dare say much higher already.

Fuck all the dick waving about donations though. If you want to take it to the Nth degree Blair just announced the UKs funding for help is 'unlimited'. But fuck it means nothing other than a HUGE chunk of the world are helping. After all the recent shit and peoples eagerness to kill each other it restores just a little faith in humanity. Even countries that usually keep out of this sort of thing are helping which is far more important than the amounts.

On the Africa subject though I have to agree. There's shit there happening every year that makes the tsunami almost look small. A shame nobody gives a fuck about them. Half the governments there also make Saddam look like the Pope, but then they don't have huge oil reserves ;)

Wow, good news :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Why can't we just agree that there is an immense and never before seen effort from most (!) countries to help the victims of this disaster, let it be the US, EU, Canada, Australia or whatever country. There might be a variety of reasons for this but the starving people in Aceh certainly don't care who is saving their lives, as long as the aid comes.

What worries me a lot more is what's going to happen with these huge amounts of moneys that have been promised to be given over the coming years. In a notoriously corrupt country like Indonesia and given the special situation in Aceh where the Indonesian army fights against an independence movement you can bet that large amounts of this money will end up in the pockets of government people and corrupt local bureaucrats.

It's a sad situation - Indonesia is a fascinating country with fantastic people, but only as long as you don't dress them in uniforms...

California donated more than that!

that was really nice of them to do.

We, the scandinavians, has given close to $350million + private donations. Its 17 times more than USA per citizen.
Anyway, as you say, its not about who giving what. Its not a contest, who "helped us before", but helping people, many children, in poor countries. The countries should give what they can afford, and of course countries, like the scandinavian ones, should give more because they are richer than the rest.
If some people in some countries are not satisfied with what their governments donate, you have the opportunity to make private donations. It's as simple as that, and this contest "we give more than you" is becoming stupid.