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Old 10-24-2001, 09:45 PM   #1
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AdultDetective - Who are you !!

AdultDetective, Who are you ?? You post and no one knows who you are !

We know your full of shit, What is wildcash ! Never heard of it. Also you have never contacted us.

Please get all your facts straight before you post. I think you are just a new fish and have not had time to understand this entire internet deal.

What is your smutcash account #, I bet you that you are not even a member. You should sign up. The conversion are thru the Roof !

Vipdialer, we did not make the dialers, we did not own the phone lines or the software.
We simple handed out these dialers to webmasters and did our best to make sure they all got payment for there minutes.
When the company that pays us, stops payment, then we are left with useless software.

Or maybe in your terms. We are the middle men and got cut out of the deal.

I bet that in the next 10 minutes I will not see an email from you. In fact you have never emailed us before and never will.


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Old 10-24-2001, 09:48 PM   #2
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im a beaver inspector ; )
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Old 10-24-2001, 09:51 PM   #3
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Dave Stodgehill, a.k.a. Virgins R Us, a.k.a. The Adult Browser, a.k.a. Adult Content Solutions. I've seen his bullshit posts on other boards, he does nothing but bother people from what I can tell.

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Old 10-24-2001, 09:53 PM   #4
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So WHO is the person - company that did not pay you tyler? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Old 10-24-2001, 09:56 PM   #5
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pr0, i bet in LSL7, you always replayed the scene where Larry has to milk the beavers

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Old 10-24-2001, 09:59 PM   #6
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No comment.. Tyler stated on the boards he would pay up so im not saying anything till the end of the month.. He knows what he owes to people.
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Old 10-24-2001, 10:05 PM   #7
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Holy shit how did u know that Wizzo???
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Old 10-24-2001, 10:08 PM   #8
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What's the real truth here people?
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Old 10-24-2001, 10:09 PM   #9
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Snow good to see ya. Just getting that 1099 done for you. Wow $280,000 we sent to you this year. More than I thought.

And to think, you almost got away with it.
Amazing, telling us you live in Canada so we would not have to report this income. Giving us a false address is a no no.
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Old 10-24-2001, 10:13 PM   #10
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He's actually Maxwell Smart!!!!

BTW- Don't confuse Wizzo for WiZdom or I'll send this detective guy after you!!!
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$280,000 to SNOW

dont you mean $280.00

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Old 10-24-2001, 10:14 PM   #12
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$280,000 to SNOW

dont you mean $280.00
I thought he meant $2.80

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Old 10-24-2001, 10:15 PM   #13
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wizzo, is that a bad thing

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Old 10-24-2001, 10:21 PM   #14
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I didn't say that, but don't think that makes you exempt from Barney Fifes(sp?) probing eye here...Adult detective watch out for the Canadians, they are up to something!
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u guys had betta quit fuckin wid snow b4 u get a cap in yo ass...& im not talkin bout a soda pop cap
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It's amazing though how many people from absurdistan joined this board lately.

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Old 10-24-2001, 10:31 PM   #17
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Yea but the people from stuckUpaStan are migrating quick...hint hint
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Old 10-24-2001, 10:50 PM   #18
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Snow good to see ya. Just getting that 1099 done for you. Wow $280,000 we sent to you this year. More than I thought.

And to think, you almost got away with it.
Amazing, telling us you live in Canada so we would not have to report this income. Giving us a false address is a no no.
Wow, you really make me want to do business with you after posting details of your business relationship with snow on a message board; really professional of you.



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Old 10-24-2001, 10:51 PM   #19
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question for you?

if gib fucked you, and like you say, cut you off from the legs down, why wouldn't you take legal action against them?
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Old 10-24-2001, 11:06 PM   #20
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Dave Stodgehill, a.k.a. Virgins R Us, a.k.a. The Adult Browser, a.k.a. Adult Content Solutions. I've seen his bullshit posts on other boards, he does nothing but bother people from what I can tell.
hows dave fitting into this.. i met this shitterthe first month doing this shit.. what a dick.. not only is he all about the drama.. but DragonKing and i were getting tight and this fucker came in and started talking shit about me to DK and acting like i was on Daves side.. DK came to me and we worked the shit out but this fucker is a prick.. thats why he got theadultbrowser riped from his thieving little arms.. my two cents

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Tyler why dont you tell everyone how i lent you 10k to pay off webmasters and you took my money and lied to me..I still have the bankstatement to that...I fucking trusted you man.

WHY dont you tell everyone how you shaved people by paying 31 cents flat and pocketing the rest..

Why dont you tell people how GIB paid in 2 sep payments.. The first payment would be 35 flat for all webmasters every 2 weeks.. Why did they wait an extra 2 weeks for this payment?? And why did you pay them 32 flat and pocket the 3??

Why dont you tell people how you funded your chetah party in vegas..With dialer money perhaps??..

Why dont you tell people you made almost 2 million dollars and the reason we couldnt pay people faster is because you were WASHING it in a offshore account..and would take forever to get here from GIB...

Why dont you tell people that GIB paid you in full for JULY and AUGUST you kept the money..

Why dont you tell people you Bounced checks in 23 states which is Fraud..

GIB didnt shut you off You shut us off..

Why do you ignore my calls and GIB's calls

If you were such a HotSHot why did you need me to promote you..

Why dont you tell people that I was responsible for bringin in all that business and Your fucking me and the webmasters..

Why dont you tell people you Barely did 2000 min a day of personal traffic

Why dont tell people you have spammed all my people to use your stupid redirecting dialer..

Like i said you want to fuck with me,Ill make it my passion to ruin you... You might as well shut down now and call your Pathetic program something else..

Tyler was just fine about 2 weeks ago.. He stated he would pay me and the webmasters he just needed time to catch up.. WELL??


Why dont you tell everyone How you used VIPDIALER money to pay off your smutcash people and Left us in the cold..

GIB can easily Prove they paid you
We all as webmasters can prove you Bounced checks..
And we can all file a class action lawsuit,And you can guarantee I will not stop till your in the dirt and I have thousands of people to back me cause no one likes you or your bullshit..


You want to get into the IRS No Problem Will see how much you made that wasnt taxed cause GIB doesnt 1099 you...
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Tyler why dont you tell everyone how i lent you 10k to pay off webmasters and you took my money and lied to me..I still have the bankstatement to that...I fucking trusted you man.

WHY dont you tell everyone how you shaved people by paying 31 cents flat and pocketing the rest..

Why dont you tell people how GIB paid in 2 sep payments.. The first payment would be 35 flat for all webmasters every 2 weeks.. Why did they wait an extra 2 weeks for this payment?? And why did you pay them 32 flat and pocket the 3??

Why dont you tell people how you funded your chetah party in vegas..With dialer money perhaps??..

Why dont you tell people you made almost 2 million dollars and the reason we couldnt pay people faster is because you were WASHING it in a offshore account..and would take forever to get here from GIB...

Why dont you tell people that GIB paid you in full for JULY and AUGUST you kept the money..

Why dont you tell people you Bounced checks in 23 states which is Fraud..

GIB didnt shut you off You shut us off..

Why do you ignore my calls and GIB's calls

If you were such a HotSHot why did you need me to promote you..

Why dont you tell people that I was responsible for bringin in all that business and Your fucking me and the webmasters..

Why dont you tell people you Barely did 2000 min a day of personal traffic

Why dont tell people you have spammed all my people to use your stupid redirecting dialer..

Like i said you want to fuck with me,Ill make it my passion to ruin you... You might as well shut down now and call your Pathetic program something else..

Tyler was just fine about 2 weeks ago.. He stated he would pay me and the webmasters he just needed time to catch up.. WELL??


Why dont you tell everyone How you used VIPDIALER money to pay off your smutcash people and Left us in the cold..

GIB can easily Prove they paid you
We all as webmasters can prove you Bounced checks..
And we can all file a class action lawsuit,And you can guarantee I will not stop till your in the dirt and I have thousands of people to back me cause no one likes you or your bullshit..


You want to get into the IRS No Problem Will see how much you made that wasnt taxed cause GIB doesnt 1099 you...
Damn, where there's smoke there's fire.
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Old 10-24-2001, 11:54 PM   #23
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Rome is burning.

I'm gonna go play my fiddle.
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that was a ball of fire
nice...
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Old 10-24-2001, 11:58 PM   #25
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Lensman you know me and so does wizzo..This guy cannot get away with this shit.. If tyler from smutcash gets away with this we have serious problems....

when all this shit happened at first webmasters didnt lknow who to blame so they attacked me,But now all my people see the light...

Just wait till i post the payout info from GIB ,then will really see whos lying..
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I really need to start using that typingmaster software I have. It would have taken me an hour to go off like that
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Old 10-25-2001, 12:42 AM   #27
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HOLY FUCK I WAS LOST!

so tyler is from smut-cash. smut-cash = tyler? so tyler also owns vipdialer? not snow? this makes smut-cash's post a lot more understanding.

please tell me if i have this right.

tyler owns vipdialer. snow runs it. tyler pays snow. tyler also pays webmasters who snow resells too. tyler has all our money?!?!

sorry if this is wrong. i'm totally confused.
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Old 10-25-2001, 12:45 AM   #28
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fuck. i don't know if i'm right or what:

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When the company that pays us, stops payment, then we are left with useless software.
so if smut-cash is tyler, then someone also owes him money too. who? GIB?

fuck knows. i have no clue. none of this has ever really been explained to me.
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Old 10-25-2001, 12:45 AM   #29
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HQ EXACTLY on the Money...........

He has all our money......
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Old 10-25-2001, 12:48 AM   #30
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SNOW, sweet! not really, but at least i know what's going on now!!!

you're taking quite a beating on some boards, aren't you??? everyone thinks you're behind this!!!
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Old 10-25-2001, 12:52 AM   #31
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HQ you are close ;)

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In the Beginning people thought i was,But everyone sees the light now... It's quite obvious if i controlled the money this never would have happened..

I'm with the webmasters not vip not tyler not smutcash... But MY guys that i brought in and now this guy is screwing them./.

Sure people are gonna be upset.They trusted me and now look what happened.. I will never fucking partner with anyone EVER....

He had content and did the payouts i brought everyone in .. SIMPLE.. He walks with the cash and i get hammered..

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I wish I knew why GIB has this wierd monopoly on the dialer biz... Can anyone explain it to me?

A dialer just connects to a BBS... I had two of them in high school... What's so complicated about building all the hardware and shit yourself to answer the calls? Why isn't there more competition? Makes no sense to me.
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holy fuck this is crazy. there's bound to be many webmasters that don't know. i know quite a few that never read these boards.

just reading AWI... u lent 10K to tyler to help him pay out?! that's incredible.

so what's the story? is this a potential paout? or a potential lawsuit?
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Sorry Snow. I was at the movies with the boneprone bitches. Didnt get home just now to see this post.

Tyler is piece of work.
Here's the truth and the low down of the situation. Snow can only say so much cause of legal reasons pending as we speak.. But the mouth of the SOuth will tell you what the truth is.

The truth is:
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TheFLY,

GIB has a monopoly on the dialer biz? i wish i understand the ladder a little bit better than i do right now. it's true that BBS's aren't that complicated... but i have complete idea of how dialers work.


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but i DON'T have complete idea of how dialers work.
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Vip Dialer is owned by Tyler of Smut Cash.. It was a secret for a long time, but the secret was leaked out during the AVN Online Issue In August.

Snow was the Rep for VIP dialer. He got the clients, and was payed for his work on a commision. All the work was done by snow. He got the webmasters, he put his rep and neck on the line for VIP Dialer.

GIB, pays VIP Dialer, who in turn cuts the checks for webmasters. Snow was not in charge of paying out webmasters.. He was simply a rep, and in the end a fall guy..

Smut Cash started to fal way behind in payments to its webmasters. Epoch was having serious delays, and Tyler was sweating the heat that Smutcash was feeling.

Trying to juggle $$ to pay out everyone, Tyler figured he could pay his smut cash webmasters with the VIP Dialer $$, and juggle funds.. When the Epoch $$ comes in pay the VIP dialer people..

Something happened.. Either Epoch never payed Tyler, or Tyler flat out never payed out to VIP Dialer. Many accounds went unpaid, and still to this day are unpaid.

Mean while, SNOW is getting a lot of heat from webmasters.. After all he sold the dialers to them.. He has been getting threats, he has been slandered, he gets phone calls in the middle of the night, and he lost a lot of $$, for his work since he also has not been payed in 3 months from Tyler. Snows reputation is tarnished and he was perhaps the biggest victum in all this.. His name has been tarnished.

So this is where we stand now.
GIB is pissed! Pissed bad.
They payed tens of thousands of dollars to VIP Dialer (tyler) to pay webmasters.. The webmasters never got the $$.

GIB suspended Tyler form being a broker of the dialer. GIB is going to sue for the $$ tyler kept and did not pay. .

GIB gave all accounts to SNOW since they were his orginally, but now under his own control, now known to us as Jetdialer. GIB is now making paymets out to webmasters DIRECTLY.

TYLER aka VIP Dialer sends out a email (yesterday) to ALL old webmasters to switch from the current dialer to HIS dialer.. Thus trying to steal back all his old accounts from SNOW and GIB to switch back to VIP.. Most webmasters are smart and know what is going on.. However Im sure many dont know the lowdown and left going with Tyler.

Tyler is now a broker for No Credit Card Needed. GIB continues to pay webmasters VIP Dialer stole, and Snow is left out to dry, and is the fall guy.


AND THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE CAUSE BONEPRONE SAID SO.


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i still revert back to my eirlier comment what that shitter Dave has to do with this is he the AdultDetective?

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Fuck I'm glad I never promoted dialers or smutcash, I don't know tyler or snow but as far I'm concerned fuck smutcash if they shaft webmasters I hope they cop it up the ass
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This is all alleged information however... But the source is very creditable, and numerous.
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Gee doesn't this all sound familiar?

Can I say it now? Can I please? Pretty Please?

Are you ready? Here goes- I TOLD YOU SO!!!!

Okay I said it, now what can we do to stop this shit from happening again and fixing the situation?

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Thought I would include this:
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/...ml/006310.html

Past history of smutcash.

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Snow,
Fuck that guy man... he can suck a dead dog's dick. I hope you fuck him over good.

That's bullshit posting your earnings in public. What a piece of shit motherfucker.

Anyways...
I'll see you in January. Hope all is kicking ass with the new programs!

SixNine

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Old 10-25-2001, 09:45 AM   #44
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Snow, you know how I feel about GIB (deadbeats still owe me approx 30k) That's a different story.

But you and I are tight, so anything I can do to help you out here just ask.. I think at this point a fire extinguisher may be a good idea, your pretty hot right now and it seems you have the right to be

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Old 10-25-2001, 09:59 AM   #45
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See the coward snow goes running for the hills every time something goes wrong..

This guy fucked josh/dialerprogram up,
now he is trying to fuck up my program.

He is a coward and runs when the shit hits the fan.

Figures MellisaD would come crawling out of her hole.

Mellissa, we paid you off from your little scam you tried to pull with us. I can have my lawyer remind you of this.
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Old 10-25-2001, 10:38 AM   #46
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Originally posted by MelissaD:
Thought I would include this:
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/...ml/006310.html

Past history of smutcash.


Any thread that has Bulldog in it is worth reading

Sometimes I miss that asswipe
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Old 10-25-2001, 10:40 AM   #47
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well someone has all the money! who is it?! if snow lent tyler $10k to help payouts, it doesn't seem to be him!

dialerprogram... that's another story. i'm still owed $3k from it. i have no clue what ever happened to that. i thought josh was going to pay out.

this is why webmasters need to understand what's going on behind the scenes. when they don't get their pay checks, some of them very large, they have to know who to blame/sue/whatever.
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Old 10-25-2001, 10:45 AM   #48
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just pay people, even if it means having to limit party expenses...you might salvage what reputation you have left in this business.

my 2 cents
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Old 10-25-2001, 10:52 AM   #49
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Pay what ? I dont make the money, the phone companies dont pay me directly. I am a reseller of a service beuro. IF they dont pay im left holding the bag.

Do you think that I want to spend the time and explain this all day ?

Webmaster are still running minutes to this day and are not getting paid.
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Old 10-25-2001, 11:00 AM   #50
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" IF they dont pay im left holding the bag"

you are left holding the bag, and it is your duty to pay. You should have contracts with gib that protect you from this shit they supposedly did to you.

its really your choice. throw it out of your pocket, give up a few luxuries, or have your reptuation / companies take the fall. luxuries can always be bought, reputations and well built companies can't.
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