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slapass · 01-02-2005, 08:50 AM

Doing lots of year end number crunching and these things are not cutting it.
The whole year average 26.49 per signup but then I take 13% off of that. So they did 23.05 for me. Before the processing fee only Tushy Cash and Mr Skin hit the $30 per sign up.

Honorable mention for Facialcash as they are at $30 but I have not sent traffic for a few months as they changed their system so the new links are getting the traffic.

Also I get rebills on triplexcash. and a few others that make this over all number look even better. The number of sites I sent traffic to that returned me $20 or less is sickening. Non nude is horrible for me. I send tons of traffic and they are all at .01 or less per click.

CoolE · 01-02-2005, 09:31 AM

I just went through my 2004 numbers for BiBucks... Affiliates on our partnership program made $37.60 per sale on average in 2004. So I guess it depends on the CCBill sponsor and how well their sites rebill. What's the 13% deducted for? Processing fees? Processing fees are deducted from our portion at www.bibucks.com.

Sorry if this reply sounds spammy, but you are right, you deserve more per sign-up.

Tuga · 01-02-2005, 09:34 AM

I have $26 per sale on CCBill sites, but horrible convertions of 1:3000

MarkH · 01-02-2005, 09:34 AM

$20 per su for me with ccbill.

NaughtyAlysha · 01-02-2005, 09:36 AM

You shouldn't be paying the proccessing fees, or at least not more than 50%.

bignasty · 01-02-2005, 09:53 AM

overall ccbill sites sucked for me last year too. had some that would convert but wouldnt retain, and a couple that wouldnt convert worth a shit but retained good. everything totaled up including rebills I made less than 1 cent per click for the whole year.

mufas · 01-02-2005, 09:55 AM

YetisCash.com and Czechwives site

1 SU 24,95 USD (50% for me 12,5)

I have 1-4 rebill This is 37.5 USD for SU

andrej_NDC · 01-02-2005, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuga

I have $26 per sale on CCBill sites, but horrible convertions of 1:3000

you would be surprised how your real ratio look like with the other sponsors who use their own tracking soft

SteveLightspeed · 01-02-2005, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

you would be surprised how your real ratio look like with the other sponsors who use their own tracking soft

No shit, track your own outbound traffic if you want apples to apples comparisons.

Steve Lightspeed

cyber_ninja · 01-02-2005, 11:54 AM

ive been doing horrable with ccbill sites,so now ive moved on,im trying www.madeinporn.com/track/MTAwNTI5OjE0OjE2/ with there temperary 80% revshare

Sly · 01-02-2005, 12:09 PM

I prefer working with programs that have a cascading billing system. Running a program without one is leaving money on the table, IMO. Sure, it may only be a fraction, but it still adds up.

My CCBill average join for 2004 is $50. No lie. That's with about 50 joins. I don't send a whole lot of traffic through, but I guess what I do send is pretty good.

cyber_ninja · 01-02-2005, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I prefer working with programs that have a cascading billing system. Running a program without one is leaving money on the table, IMO. Sure, it may only be a fraction, but it still adds up.

My CCBill average join for 2004 is $50. No lie. That's with about 50 joins. I don't send a whole lot of traffic through, but I guess what I do send is pretty good.

$50 is damn good

andrej_NDC · 01-02-2005, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lightspeed

No shit, track your own outbound traffic if you want apples to apples comparisons.

Steve Lightspeed

yep, exactly

teomaxxx · 01-02-2005, 02:16 PM

I just tried to find my volumes per member by ccbill alone (not with statsremote) and found out difference between transaction column and conversion column.

Transaction column shows
reccuring members 119, totall for last year(with all rebils and chargebacks) 2,811.71$
My own calculation is 2811:119 = something like 23.50 per member

Conversion column shows
averege per member $30.85

And its the same with all my ccbill sponsors. where is the mistake?

slapass · 01-02-2005, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyAlysha

You shouldn't be paying the proccessing fees, or at least not more than 50%.

I pay the 13% on my half for most of the programs but that is a factor as I have been pulling links all day.

slapass · 01-02-2005, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I prefer working with programs that have a cascading billing system. Running a program without one is leaving money on the table, IMO. Sure, it may only be a fraction, but it still adds up.

My CCBill average join for 2004 is $50. No lie. That's with about 50 joins. I don't send a whole lot of traffic through, but I guess what I do send is pretty good.

But didn't the program switch to their own system now? That bumps the average $$ per join as the rebills stack up on old system. Which is a real number and very cool. But if you average it out longer you might be surprised.

Sly · 01-02-2005, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass

But didn't the program switch to their own system now? That bumps the average $$ per join as the rebills stack up on old system. Which is a real number and very cool. But if you average it out longer you might be surprised.

Which program are you thinking of? The particular program I'm referring to has switched over to its own system but I'm still allowed to send joins through CCBill if I wish. I don't anymore, but I did at one time. I just checked again, 39 sales for $1900 with 79 rebills.

So for that overall program with its current setup, no they aren't worth $50 a piece. The program is actually ran a bit different now than what it was at one time. Because of this I'm extremely tempted to bite the bullet and start my own paysite. Still debating...

slapass · 01-02-2005, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

Which program are you thinking of? The particular program I'm referring to has switched over to its own system but I'm still allowed to send joins through CCBill if I wish. I don't anymore, but I did at one time. I just checked again, 39 sales for $1900 with 79 rebills.

So for that overall program with its current setup, no they aren't worth $50 a piece. The program is actually ran a bit different now than what it was at one time. Because of this I'm extremely tempted to bite the bullet and start my own paysite. Still debating...

Even after fee that is $42 a sale. Very nice! Kalycam is in that range for me but I only had like 2 sales. Not worth getting excited otherwise they sucked except those above.

TheMob · 01-02-2005, 05:12 PM

they have been sucking lately

spooky181 · 01-02-2005, 06:18 PM

We used to use CCbill for our extreme amateur program but ever since switching to Verotel our sales imediately rocketed.

Kevsh · 01-02-2005, 06:36 PM

Have you tried the FTV single girl sites? Great conversions and a good program:

FTVCash

crockett · 01-02-2005, 06:40 PM

CCBILL used to really suck for me, however they have really started turning around for me and within the last 2 months they have become one of my best.

slapass · 01-02-2005, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsh

Have you tried the FTV single girl sites? Great conversions and a good program:

FTVCash

Yeah and well lets just say they were not listed as a winner.

01-02-2005, 08:50 AM	#1
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	ccBill sites suck for me... Doing lots of year end number crunching and these things are not cutting it. The whole year average 26.49 per signup but then I take 13% off of that. So they did 23.05 for me. Before the processing fee only Tushy Cash and Mr Skin hit the $30 per sign up. Honorable mention for Facialcash as they are at $30 but I have not sent traffic for a few months as they changed their system so the new links are getting the traffic. Also I get rebills on triplexcash. and a few others that make this over all number look even better. The number of sites I sent traffic to that returned me $20 or less is sickening. Non nude is horrible for me. I send tons of traffic and they are all at .01 or less per click.

01-02-2005, 09:34 AM	#3
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01-02-2005, 09:34 AM	#4
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01-02-2005, 09:36 AM	#5
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01-02-2005, 09:53 AM	#6
bignasty Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: sc Posts: 1,421	overall ccbill sites sucked for me last year too. had some that would convert but wouldnt retain, and a couple that wouldnt convert worth a shit but retained good. everything totaled up including rebills I made less than 1 cent per click for the whole year. __________________ '

01-02-2005, 09:31 AM	#2
CoolE Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 451	I just went through my 2004 numbers for BiBucks... Affiliates on our partnership program made $37.60 per sale on average in 2004. So I guess it depends on the CCBill sponsor and how well their sites rebill. What's the 13% deducted for? Processing fees? Processing fees are deducted from our portion at www.bibucks.com. Sorry if this reply sounds spammy, but you are right, you deserve more per sign-up.

01-02-2005, 09:55 AM	#7
mufas Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 1,054	YetisCash.com and Czechwives site 1 SU 24,95 USD (50% for me 12,5) I have 1-4 rebill This is 37.5 USD for SU __________________

01-02-2005, 11:54 AM	#10
cyber_ninja Twerk That Ass Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lincoln, California Posts: 2,197	ive been doing horrable with ccbill sites,so now ive moved on,im trying www.madeinporn.com/track/MTAwNTI5OjE0OjE2/ with there temperary 80% revshare

01-02-2005, 12:09 PM	#11
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,329	I prefer working with programs that have a cascading billing system. Running a program without one is leaving money on the table, IMO. Sure, it may only be a fraction, but it still adds up. My CCBill average join for 2004 is $50. No lie. That's with about 50 joins. I don't send a whole lot of traffic through, but I guess what I do send is pretty good. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

01-02-2005, 02:16 PM	#14
teomaxxx Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,734	I just tried to find my volumes per member by ccbill alone (not with statsremote) and found out difference between transaction column and conversion column. Transaction column shows reccuring members 119, totall for last year(with all rebils and chargebacks) 2,811.71$ My own calculation is 2811:119 = something like 23.50 per member Conversion column shows averege per member $30.85 And its the same with all my ccbill sponsors. where is the mistake? Last edited by teomaxxx; 01-02-2005 at 02:18 PM..

01-02-2005, 05:12 PM	#19
TheMob Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: 2006 Posts: 8,584	they have been sucking lately

01-02-2005, 06:18 PM	#20
spooky181 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: back of beyond Posts: 2,951	We used to use CCbill for our extreme amateur program but ever since switching to Verotel our sales imediately rocketed.

01-02-2005, 06:36 PM	#21
Kevsh Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: TO Posts: 8,619	Have you tried the FTV single girl sites? Great conversions and a good program: FTVCash Last edited by Kevsh; 01-02-2005 at 06:38 PM..

01-02-2005, 06:40 PM	#22
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