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Old 12-30-2004, 01:07 PM   #1
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The greatest loss of life since the Atomic bomb?

that is to say, the Tsunami was the most devasting event to cause such a loss of life since the Atomic bomb? Not including 'ethnic cleansing' like in Rwanda or Germany....
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Old 12-30-2004, 01:08 PM   #2
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It's truly amazing so many lost in such a short time...
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someone posted a link the other day to a list of the greatest disasters in modern times, and there was a cyclone in bangaldesh in 1970 that killed 300,000 people. This one's pretty bad, but it has a ways to go to be the greatest loss of life since th e atomic bomb.
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Old 12-30-2004, 01:35 PM   #4
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There were some droughts with losses in the millions. Many of us remember the 1984 famine in Ethiopia that killed about one million.
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Old 12-30-2004, 01:37 PM   #5
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how about the millions of ukranians that died during stalin? does anyone remember? no probly not.
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What have been some of the greatest losses caused by nature recently?
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Old 12-30-2004, 01:41 PM   #7
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Not including 'ethnic cleansing' like in Rwanda or Germany....
... and korea and vietnam and iraq !!
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how about the millions of ukranians that died during stalin? does anyone remember? no probly not.
Read something about that in University, but it's not part of the North american public school Curriculum. Our curriculum focuses on the Jews, not the Ukranians, Blacks, Arawaks or Caribs (Caribs Wiped out by Cris Columbus). Any links for more details about this? Ethnic cleansing around turn of the century? How long ago was that link with the greatest natural disasters?
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Old 12-30-2004, 01:43 PM   #9
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USSR lost about 20,000,000 people during WWII.
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Read something about that in University, but it's not part of the North american public school Curriculum. Our curriculum focuses on the Jews, not the Ukranians, Blacks, Arawaks or Caribs (Caribs Wiped out by Cris Columbus). Any links for more details about this? Ethnic cleansing around turn of the century? How long ago was that link with the greatest natural disasters?

yepper i know its not taught in high school i used to speak up when we were only talking about the jews. kinda sad how just because Stalin "stopped" the nazis in Russia all is forgiven and brushed under the rug. that is a main reason why i do not feel sorry for many other races of people.
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Old 12-30-2004, 01:46 PM   #11
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How long ago was that link with the greatest natural disasters?
it was a couple days ago, I've been trying to find the link but can't
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USSR lost about 20,000,000 people during WWII.

Actually, Russia won WW2, not Canada, the U.S. or Britain. They held the eastern front after being hung out to dry by Hitler. Why is it the only taught the holocaust in terms of Jews being victims?
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Actually, Russia won WW2, not Canada, the U.S. or Britain. They held the eastern front after being hung out to dry by Hitler. Why is it the only taught the holocaust in terms of Jews being victims?
How would Russia have fared without American supplies? American industry supplied Russia with 427,000 trucks, 13 million pairs of boots, 5 million tons of foods, 2000 locomotives, 11,0000 freight carriages and 540,000 tons of rails. (SOURCE:"The Second World War", Keegan, page 218).

Russia freed itself. Everyone else it "freed" was stuck behind the iron curtain for 45 years.

"How would we have advanced from Stalingrad to Berlin without American transport?" - Khrushschev.

You're also ignoring the entire Pacific War and the defeat of the Germans in Western Europe. How much did Russia contribute there?
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Old 12-30-2004, 02:18 PM   #15
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In 1976 earthquake leaved 242,000 dead people in China. Thats official loss, estimated death toll as high as 655,000
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Quite a few bombing raids over germany (eg Dresden), killed more in a single attack than the atom bomb

Most of the 20 million deaths in the USSR were caused by Stalin in the great purges the german army only killed about 2 million....(all in all Communisim has killed over 100 million since it started.)

Rwanda killed several million (the Iraq war hasn't even come close, even by the most left wing/anti-american standards)

There have also been quite a few natural disasters (earthquakes, typhoons, etc...) that have killed quite a bit more than 100k


Having said all that.....I still sent money to the Red Cross today.....that situation is HORRIBLE.

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In 1347 the "black death" plague took out 1/3rd of Europe's entire population.
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i would say its in the top 10 from natural disasters
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Old 12-31-2004, 07:19 AM   #20
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USSR lost about 20,000,000 people during WWII.
shit man i didn't think they were that many... thats just scandalous!
the thing with natural disasters though is that the people that get killed did nothing wrong and it was no one's fault.. You just go for a swim and end up dead on a balcony 2 floors above....
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If it's only natural disasters it's up there.
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There is no doubt that this will be one of the largest - however, don't confuse the most televised with the most disasterous.
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that is to say, the Tsunami was the most devasting event to cause such a loss of life since the Atomic bomb? Not including 'ethnic cleansing' like in Rwanda or Germany....
For some reason everyone seems to think that the dropping of two atomic bombs on Japan caused a huge loss of life during WWII. While the loss of life was huge, more lives were lost when the US firebombed cities in both Japan and Germany.
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Actually, Russia won WW2, not Canada, the U.S. or Britain. They held the eastern front after being hung out to dry by Hitler. Why is it the only taught the holocaust in terms of Jews being victims?
Russia didn't win WWII. Yes, they held the Eastern front, and they sure did loose more lives by far than any other country. But keep in mind that American supplied Russia through out the war, and landed on D-Day when we were never really attacked by Germany. Imagine the US doing that today and the uproar it would cause.

Japan won WWII. Stop and think about it.
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that is to say, the Tsunami was the most devasting event to cause such a loss of life since the Atomic bomb? Not including 'ethnic cleansing' like in Rwanda or Germany....
I saw some stats somewhere yesterday, that across the world in the 1990's over 100 million people died in those 10 years due to war.
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