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Hooper · 10-22-2001, 05:07 PM

I'm ripping off your idea now.
http://www.conversioncash.com
$35 PLUS 50% Recurring

wisemansass · 10-22-2001, 05:08 PM

12- 15% CHRIST HOOPER THE SHIT THAT COMES OUTA YOUR MOUTH SOMETIMES...I SWEAR!!!!! If you run a good opperation you can prove to your webmaster what his traffic is worth after a short amount of time....After that you show him what it is worth and then you tell him that is what you are gonna pay him...If he wants it he wants it... If he don't send him on his way...There is plenty more where he came from....FUCKIN 12-15% WHAT YOU BEEN SMOKEIN THAT CRACK AGAIN? OH AND IF ANYONE IS WONDERING???? EVEN WITH THE 40% SHAVE I STILL DO PRETTY DARN GOOD WITH OLE HOOPER

Hooper · 10-22-2001, 05:11 PM

I'm turning off your account now because my feelings are hurt ;-)))

It's one thing to talk about my program... but you just don't talk about a man's momma... that just aint right!

The only thing I shave is my balls!

wisemansass · 10-22-2001, 05:13 PM

OHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! SO THAT IS WHY YOU ARE ALWAYS ITCHEN THEM HUH?????? I thaught it was somethin else....

Diamond Jim · 10-22-2001, 05:14 PM

I forgot the lesson my pappy told me...

"Don't try and teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig."

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Dopy · 10-22-2001, 05:26 PM

KimmyKim

Not all figures in business are 2+2=4 some are 2+2=2+tomorrow.

$50+50%

Promotions such as this are often based on targeted and historical figures and even run loss at the pay door. The long term ?knock on? effect of such a promotion is of course where the clever calculations of risk and outlay come into play. This risk and ability to judge the future is the difference between those that do and those that don?t.

Businesses spend millions each year on what appear to be crazy promotions. If you don?t understand this concept then its best to stay with the real time ?in out? balance sheet.

Gleem

If you have lots of pre-tax profit and a solid set of performance figures then go for it, otherwise play safe and stick with what works for most.

Your request was no so dumb.

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Diamond Jim · 10-22-2001, 05:32 PM

Here we go with the M I L L I O N S again...where's Hanco when you need them?

The request for the program isn't stupid. Unfortunately, reality intervenes...

Hooper · 10-22-2001, 05:33 PM

taken down at the request of the recipient.

need i say more ;-))

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wisemansass · 10-22-2001, 05:41 PM

WOW!!!!!! I dint know your girls showed you that picture.. Can we still be friends Hoop??? She told me she burned it man... I'm sorry.. I was drunk.... I dint know she was your girl at the time....UHHHH OK FUCK IT!!!!! I KNEW IT THE WHOLE FUCKIN TIME!!!!!

rollin · 10-22-2001, 05:42 PM

whats a ponser?

playa · 10-22-2001, 05:42 PM

hooper WTF is that?

please take down that pic,,
shit i almost went blind

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Hooper · 10-22-2001, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Diamond Jim:
where's Hanco when you need them?

Oh my god.. I haven't thought of them in a long time... did they last for like 4 days or something???

I remember all those fabio lookin guys in the suits at the convention... spinning booth.. booze... but not one person there had any idea what their program was about!

Wasted money... wish i woulda got something out of em first ;-)))

playa · 10-22-2001, 06:00 PM

IMHO,,the way the industry is going
the per sign up model will die off,,
with in the year i could see 90% of sponsers will just do partnerships

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gleem · 10-22-2001, 06:15 PM

who's Hanco, musta missed that convention?

I step away for a half hour and I miss the pic too. Figures.

Anyways, so you all Poo Pood my idea. I may still do it anyways, but I think I will also launch a 100% recurring program at the same time and see which does better.

I payout 100% of the signup and each rebill, and I keep all the upsells and other goodies. Surely the upsells can pay for hosting and content costs, couldn't they?

If you don't think that will work I would like to see you guys come up with something better.

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Diamond Jim · 10-22-2001, 06:19 PM

T'aint upsells that makes the money...
http://www.club100.com/

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Hooper · 10-22-2001, 06:25 PM

http://www.club100.com/testimonials.html

hahahahahahahaha

gleem · 10-22-2001, 06:48 PM

yah, but look at the sites they are selling... not real impressive. And their memberships is only $19, that sux.

Mine would be a $39 program at 100% recurring or $40 a signup and 50% recurring.

Anyone try those Listerine strips yet? They fuckin' rock.

By the way, me dad just sent me this, thought you guys would like it:

Bin Bombed

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Diamond Jim · 10-22-2001, 06:53 PM

I'm curious as to why not $49.95 a month 100% recurring or $50 a signup and 75% recurring since the numbers come from the same place....thin air.

gleem · 10-22-2001, 07:01 PM

I was trying to be conservative, that's all. I have no problem selling memberships at $39 a month, anything more than that my ratios drop like a stone.

As far as 50% goes, I was pulling it out of my ass cause it sounded good, but 75% may work too. This is the part I am not sure about, what % recur to give away.

Wouldn't you operate at a loss for a year to gain 10,000 webmasters? And if the program still wan't turning a profit, you could always phase it into something different?

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Diamond Jim · 10-22-2001, 07:03 PM

Not when I can operate at a profit and STILL gain 10,000 webmasters...

But to each their own...

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Toolz · 10-22-2001, 07:11 PM

WTF?

Is this guy just trying to win a DVD player or something?

the indigo · 10-22-2001, 07:43 PM

sigh... a *HONEST* pay per signup sponsor would pay $20 max with a great member area. Honesty isn't a virtue in this business. 98% of webmasters a just dumb anyway, so screw 'em.

Hooper · 10-22-2001, 08:15 PM

Indigo... I agree that many programs shave heavily, but adjusting trial prices & recurring prices etc really does make it quite possible to pay 30-40 per signup :-)

Rest assured that there are at least a few good guys out there ;-))

gleem · 10-22-2001, 10:19 PM

Other than a few sponsers just coming outright and saying they couldn't pay me, I have never been able to see a sponser "shaving". What sponsers that you guys know of shave, and how do you know?

Diamond Jim · 10-22-2001, 10:28 PM

Hooper shaves. Barely old enough to, but maybe he has overactive glands or something...

I think this thread should focus on KK's boobs again and the possibility that she is from an island dominated only by women, because the previous topic is too silly.

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Kimmykim · 10-23-2001, 10:17 AM

Oh good lord, Jim's right, my boobs, tiny as they are, make more sense than the nonsense I see coming out of peoples keyboards on this thread.

First off --

People in adult make money. They don't wait a year to become profitable, they don't do the dopy things that mainstream does, unless they want to end up like Hanco.

People who run programs, highly successful ones, come to this thread and waste their time trying to help someone see the light and understand how this business works.

Maybe teaching them the best way to flip a burger without getting carpal tunnel syndrome is the answer.

gleem · 10-23-2001, 10:31 AM

That's not true. there are alot of people operating businesses that lose money, and have become profitable. I know of AVS's that have done this, I know a handful of member sites that were in the red for months before they started making money.

Are you telling me you have never invested money in a business venture??
I have done this several times, and all but 1 time I have come out ahead.

I started this post to see what people thought of my idea, and hoping to see what people wanted from a new affiliate program. This is why I keep on trying to back up my idea. I want feedback, and I have gotten plenty of it. Mission accomplished.

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Kimmykim · 10-23-2001, 10:34 AM

When you find your underwear, then come back and talk about it.

Maybe you left your common sense in there.

Amputate Your Head · 10-23-2001, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim:
carpal tunnel...

I always thought that was some kinda special breeding tube for fish.

Diamond Jim · 10-23-2001, 10:52 AM

Don't forget gleem's personal knowledge of several people that have lost six figures in this biz and then came back to make M I L L I O N S...

Carpal tunnel is the connecting landmark between the New Jersey turnPIKE and New York BASSin

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gleem · 10-23-2001, 11:18 AM

Ok, jim and kim, I can see this thread wants to die. I guess you have nothing else to add except making fun of me so let it be.

RIP thread

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Kimmykim · 10-23-2001, 11:19 AM

just trying to get you that new dvd you were asking for.

gleem · 10-23-2001, 12:03 PM

LOL, it would have been nice, I didn't really do this for the DVD player, plus I have enough ARS points to get 10. I think the "I saw someone shot" thread will win it anyways since someone started posting racial slurs and really pissing everyone off

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10-22-2001, 05:07 PM	#101
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	I'm ripping off your idea now. http://www.conversioncash.com $35 PLUS 50% Recurring

10-22-2001, 05:08 PM	#102
wisemansass Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 4	12- 15% CHRIST HOOPER THE SHIT THAT COMES OUTA YOUR MOUTH SOMETIMES...I SWEAR!!!!! If you run a good opperation you can prove to your webmaster what his traffic is worth after a short amount of time....After that you show him what it is worth and then you tell him that is what you are gonna pay him...If he wants it he wants it... If he don't send him on his way...There is plenty more where he came from....FUCKIN 12-15% WHAT YOU BEEN SMOKEIN THAT CRACK AGAIN? OH AND IF ANYONE IS WONDERING???? EVEN WITH THE 40% SHAVE I STILL DO PRETTY DARN GOOD WITH OLE HOOPER

10-22-2001, 05:11 PM	#103
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	I'm turning off your account now because my feelings are hurt ;-))) It's one thing to talk about my program... but you just don't talk about a man's momma... that just aint right! The only thing I shave is my balls!

10-22-2001, 05:13 PM	#104
wisemansass Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 4	OHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! SO THAT IS WHY YOU ARE ALWAYS ITCHEN THEM HUH?????? I thaught it was somethin else....

10-22-2001, 05:14 PM	#105
Diamond Jim Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 150	I forgot the lesson my pappy told me... "Don't try and teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig." ------------------ The Largest Recurring Sponsor On The Net

10-22-2001, 05:26 PM	#106
Dopy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Puerto Del Carmen, Lanzarote, Canary Islands Posts: 1,572	KimmyKim Not all figures in business are 2+2=4 some are 2+2=2+tomorrow. $50+50% Promotions such as this are often based on targeted and historical figures and even run loss at the pay door. The long term ?knock on? effect of such a promotion is of course where the clever calculations of risk and outlay come into play. This risk and ability to judge the future is the difference between those that do and those that don?t. Businesses spend millions each year on what appear to be crazy promotions. If you don?t understand this concept then its best to stay with the real time ?in out? balance sheet. Gleem If you have lots of pre-tax profit and a solid set of performance figures then go for it, otherwise play safe and stick with what works for most. Your request was no so dumb. ------------------ I prefer working alone

10-22-2001, 05:32 PM	#107
Diamond Jim Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 150	Here we go with the M I L L I O N S again...where's Hanco when you need them? The request for the program isn't stupid. Unfortunately, reality intervenes...

10-22-2001, 05:33 PM	#108
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	taken down at the request of the recipient. need i say more ;-)) [This message has been edited by Hooper (edited 10-22-2001).]

10-22-2001, 05:41 PM	#109
wisemansass Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 4	WOW!!!!!! I dint know your girls showed you that picture.. Can we still be friends Hoop??? She told me she burned it man... I'm sorry.. I was drunk.... I dint know she was your girl at the time....UHHHH OK FUCK IT!!!!! I KNEW IT THE WHOLE FUCKIN TIME!!!!!

10-22-2001, 05:42 PM	#110
rollin Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 436	whats a ponser?

10-22-2001, 05:42 PM	#111
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	hooper WTF is that? please take down that pic,, shit i almost went blind ------------------ ------------ Playa icq#38147712 www.NoBSdialer.com promote webcams$50 bonus just for signing up

10-22-2001, 06:00 PM	#113
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	IMHO,,the way the industry is going the per sign up model will die off,, with in the year i could see 90% of sponsers will just do partnerships ------------------ ------------ Playa icq#38147712 www.NoBSdialer.com promote webcams$50 bonus just for signing up

10-22-2001, 06:15 PM	#114
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	who's Hanco, musta missed that convention? I step away for a half hour and I miss the pic too. Figures. Anyways, so you all Poo Pood my idea. I may still do it anyways, but I think I will also launch a 100% recurring program at the same time and see which does better. I payout 100% of the signup and each rebill, and I keep all the upsells and other goodies. Surely the upsells can pay for hosting and content costs, couldn't they? If you don't think that will work I would like to see you guys come up with something better. ------------------ <A HREF="http://www.avslounge.com/fun-o-rama.html" TARGET=_blank> The new Fun-O-Rama section of AVSLounge.com Funny Pics and Videos for webmasters!</A>

10-22-2001, 06:19 PM	#115
Diamond Jim Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 150	T'aint upsells that makes the money... http://www.club100.com/ ------------------ The Largest Recurring Sponsor On The Net

10-22-2001, 06:25 PM	#116
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	http://www.club100.com/testimonials.html hahahahahahahaha

10-22-2001, 06:48 PM	#117
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	yah, but look at the sites they are selling... not real impressive. And their memberships is only $19, that sux. Mine would be a $39 program at 100% recurring or $40 a signup and 50% recurring. Anyone try those Listerine strips yet? They fuckin' rock. By the way, me dad just sent me this, thought you guys would like it: Bin Bombed ------------------ <A HREF="http://www.avslounge.com/fun-o-rama.html" TARGET=_blank> The new Fun-O-Rama section of AVSLounge.com Funny Pics and Videos for webmasters!</A>

10-22-2001, 06:53 PM	#118
Diamond Jim Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 150	I'm curious as to why not $49.95 a month 100% recurring or $50 a signup and 75% recurring since the numbers come from the same place....thin air.

10-22-2001, 07:01 PM	#119
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	I was trying to be conservative, that's all. I have no problem selling memberships at $39 a month, anything more than that my ratios drop like a stone. As far as 50% goes, I was pulling it out of my ass cause it sounded good, but 75% may work too. This is the part I am not sure about, what % recur to give away. Wouldn't you operate at a loss for a year to gain 10,000 webmasters? And if the program still wan't turning a profit, you could always phase it into something different? ------------------ <A HREF="http://www.avslounge.com/fun-o-rama.html" TARGET=_blank> The new Fun-O-Rama section of AVSLounge.com Funny Pics and Videos for webmasters!</A>

10-22-2001, 07:03 PM	#120
Diamond Jim Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 150	Not when I can operate at a profit and STILL gain 10,000 webmasters... But to each their own... ------------------ The Largest Recurring Sponsor On The Net

10-22-2001, 07:11 PM	#121
Toolz Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Podunk Posts: 690	WTF? Is this guy just trying to win a DVD player or something?

10-22-2001, 07:43 PM	#122
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	sigh... a HONEST pay per signup sponsor would pay $20 max with a great member area. Honesty isn't a virtue in this business. 98% of webmasters a just dumb anyway, so screw 'em.

10-22-2001, 08:15 PM	#123
Hooper Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: A Free America Posts: 2,210	Indigo... I agree that many programs shave heavily, but adjusting trial prices & recurring prices etc really does make it quite possible to pay 30-40 per signup :-) Rest assured that there are at least a few good guys out there ;-))

10-22-2001, 10:19 PM	#124
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	Other than a few sponsers just coming outright and saying they couldn't pay me, I have never been able to see a sponser "shaving". What sponsers that you guys know of shave, and how do you know?

10-22-2001, 10:28 PM	#125
Diamond Jim Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 150	Hooper shaves. Barely old enough to, but maybe he has overactive glands or something... I think this thread should focus on KK's boobs again and the possibility that she is from an island dominated only by women, because the previous topic is too silly. ------------------ The Largest Recurring Sponsor On The Net

10-23-2001, 10:17 AM	#126
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Oh good lord, Jim's right, my boobs, tiny as they are, make more sense than the nonsense I see coming out of peoples keyboards on this thread. First off -- People in adult make money. They don't wait a year to become profitable, they don't do the dopy things that mainstream does, unless they want to end up like Hanco. People who run programs, highly successful ones, come to this thread and waste their time trying to help someone see the light and understand how this business works. Maybe teaching them the best way to flip a burger without getting carpal tunnel syndrome is the answer.

10-23-2001, 10:31 AM	#127
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	That's not true. there are alot of people operating businesses that lose money, and have become profitable. I know of AVS's that have done this, I know a handful of member sites that were in the red for months before they started making money. Are you telling me you have never invested money in a business venture?? I have done this several times, and all but 1 time I have come out ahead. I started this post to see what people thought of my idea, and hoping to see what people wanted from a new affiliate program. This is why I keep on trying to back up my idea. I want feedback, and I have gotten plenty of it. Mission accomplished. ------------------ <A HREF="http://www.avslounge.com/fun-o-rama.html" TARGET=_blank> The new Fun-O-Rama section of AVSLounge.com Funny Pics and Videos for webmasters!</A>

10-23-2001, 10:34 AM	#128
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	When you find your underwear, then come back and talk about it. Maybe you left your common sense in there.

10-23-2001, 10:52 AM	#130
Diamond Jim Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 150	Don't forget gleem's personal knowledge of several people that have lost six figures in this biz and then came back to make M I L L I O N S... Carpal tunnel is the connecting landmark between the New Jersey turnPIKE and New York BASSin ------------------ The Largest Recurring Sponsor On The Net

10-23-2001, 11:18 AM	#131
gleem Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Sunny Land Posts: 5,593	Ok, jim and kim, I can see this thread wants to die. I guess you have nothing else to add except making fun of me so let it be. RIP thread ------------------ <A HREF="http://www.avslounge.com/fun-o-rama.html" TARGET=_blank> The new Fun-O-Rama section of AVSLounge.com Funny Pics and Videos for webmasters!</A>

10-23-2001, 11:19 AM	#132
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	just trying to get you that new dvd you were asking for.