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Old 12-21-2004, 09:45 PM   #1
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has anyone had good luck on sex.com

Has anyone had any reasonible conversions from sex.com?

Whether it was a few weeks ago or months ago?
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Old 12-21-2004, 09:46 PM   #2
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We tried them a few times, but it was several years ago. And it was crap then.


And I think that I read here a few days ago that it is still crap.
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We tried them a few times, but it was several years ago. And it was crap then.


And I think that I read here a few days ago that it is still crap.
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Has anyone had any reasonible conversions from sex.com?
Plain and simple: NO.
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Old 12-21-2004, 09:52 PM   #5
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I don't know why, but even when I get North American, First Time visitors ... their traffic just does not convert.

I have sent it to galleries which normally convert well, fpa's, and straight to normally well converting tours, alwaysing making sure to include the price in the Listing Title ... and still it's pretty much the shitiest traffic I've ever seen

I wish I could say otherwise but I can't.

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Old 12-21-2004, 10:02 PM   #6
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I am kinda bummed out because I have $50 in my sex.com account and I have to use it.

I dont know what I want to waste it on basically. Maybe a free newsletter subscribe... see if that does any good
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:03 PM   #7
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:08 PM   #8
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I won $50 in traffic there a year or two ago and tried it out. Converted like shit but I'm not a pro or anything with PPC. But they get their traffic from some pretty shitty sites too. Anyone can sell them hits that get directed to your stuff.
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:17 PM   #9
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Don't they require a 100 dollar deposit?
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:18 PM   #10
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crap clickbot traffic, unless they pull affiliates they won't see a dime from me again.
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:20 PM   #11
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I tried it about 6 months ago, and it was the shittiest traffic I ever paid for.
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:24 PM   #12
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Tried it. Hated it. Will never use them again.
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:27 PM   #13
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Don't they require a 100 dollar deposit?

$50 minimum deposit I believe.. it used to be $25
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:36 PM   #14
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Can't say I have ever used sex.com advertising.

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Old 12-21-2004, 10:42 PM   #15
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Dont have much experience.

But I spend 125USD (100 deposit + 25 opening gift, to be fair) -
used it to buy very relevant niche specific keywords ...but it didnt convert at all.

I tried Google as well, that worked much better - and also some of the traffic from Traffic Router has worked quite well, just has to be carefull what ya bid for, but some of it converts.

Dont suppose I´ll try sex.com again in the near future....
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:44 PM   #16
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I use them regularily with great success. If you deposit $50 and need to double your money to pay your cable bills you probably won't do well. You need to stick with it... oh and knowing what you're doing helps.
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:47 PM   #17
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Maan, do you know how much my cable bill is? Sex.com can't hack it.
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Old 12-21-2004, 10:57 PM   #19
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Old 12-21-2004, 11:23 PM   #20
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Sucks is too strong but it is not big unless you stay on in the path and then you are just burning money.
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Old 12-21-2004, 11:47 PM   #21
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We used them once, years ago, but nothing.
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Old 12-22-2004, 12:17 AM   #22
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someone must be making money if they still have people on the site paying for the shit traffic?

I was actually thinking of giving them a try but now I'm thinking I would be better playing an extra $100 blackjack hand in vegas.
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Old 12-22-2004, 12:22 AM   #23
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I use them regularily with great success. If you deposit $50 and need to double your money to pay your cable bills you probably won't do well. You need to stick with it... oh and knowing what you're doing helps.
Wow, I think that was the most intelligent post I have ever seen you make. There may be hope afterall.
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Old 12-22-2004, 12:43 AM   #24
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I bought 500 bucks worth. We made banners and then they told us "no bodilly fluids can be shown on teh banner." needless to say we didnt convert shit. TONS of the traffic was from places that i didnt even knew existed.

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I'm very surprised so many people have had failed results. Is there a way to disable affiliate traffic? I'd be interested in trying them out but based on these comments, affiliate fraud is not being weeded out well enough. Either way, I'd only be interested in their type-in traffic base.

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I'm very surprised so many people have had failed results. Is there a way to disable affiliate traffic? I'd be interested in trying them out but based on these comments, affiliate fraud is not being weeded out well enough. Either way, I'd only be interested in their type-in traffic base.

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Old 12-22-2004, 01:00 PM   #28
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Hi,

I have been a Sex.Com account manager for the past 3 years and hopefully I can clear up some confusion and concerns posted in this thread

I just wrote a pretty long reponse to this thread that was up on the board for about an hour and then it disappeared in the GFY upgrade...Let me try and summarize here

1. Sex.Com has an extensive affiliate network that sends our advertisers traffic on top of our own type in traffic. We are continually adding quality new traffic affiliates as well as removing affiliates that we feel are under performing. This is done an an ongoing basis. We have an extensive set of fraud protections in place that make it so any click that is even deemed mildly suspicious doesnt debit your account. You will receive the click, but you are not charged for it

2. My advice for a new advertiser is that you should not bid higher than 5 cents per click until you have established success in our engine. The largest problem with our new advertisers is that they bid too aggressively, too early in the game. It is rare that a new advertiser can come in and bid in the top 3 spots on a highly searched set of phrases and continue to make money. Be cautious

3. If you are promoting an affiliate program paysite, please be certain to bid only on USA traffic (and perhaps Canada)..Results have shown that European traffic lowers ROI on affiliate paysite campaigns unless you are 100% confident that a specific country works for you.

4. If you are able to promote dialers, you can do so on country specific European traffic. Figure out what countries have historically been good for your dialer and bid in them...We get bids as high as 30 and 40cents in many European countries due to advertisers promoting dialers competing over the traffic

5. We offer a 25% match on the initial deposit to all new advertisers to help during the testing phase. My recommendation is a $500 deposit ($625 with the matching funds) to allow you to test to see what sites work and the optimum place to have your bids.

6. If you are unsure of what program's sites to promote in Sex.Com, I would advise to lean towards programs that offer Free and low priced trials. Our users respond well to the words FREE and CHEAP if what you are offering is actually free or cheap to try

7. Be as honest as you can in your title and description. If your site offers a $2.95, 3Day Trial... make sure you put that in your title. It cuts out curioisty clicks of people who click just to see how much your site costs. It sounds simple, but this helps a good deal

I can understand why many of you who failed on your intital $100 or $200 test with would be hesitant to try our traffic again. But, if you stay cautious and follow the steps I outlined above, you can join the thousands of active advertisers who are succeeding with our traffic

I can be reached at ICQ 160804042 or briang AT sex DOT com if you need any assistance at all

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Old 12-22-2004, 01:55 PM   #29
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We've had much success on Sex.com for a few years now. Their traffic definitely has its ups and downs, but overall, performance has been solid.
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Old 12-22-2004, 01:59 PM   #30
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But they get their traffic from some pretty shitty sites too.
I thought their traffic comes from type ins.
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We've had much success on Sex.com for a few years now. Their traffic definitely has its ups and downs, but overall, performance has been solid.
One post, lol. Makes me think you work for sex.com.
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Old 12-22-2004, 02:05 PM   #32
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I had a post in here this morning that didn't make it during the upgrade.

Sex.com traffic for me has had HUGE ups and downs. After 1 year and a bit over $10k I have been unable to get it out of "test" mode. The past several months were beyond terrible.

I think a majority of the problems is the affiliate delivered results. Some (perhaps many) of the affiliates are sending the shittiest traffic I have ever seen. Until they remove affiliates or give us an option to opt out of receiving affiliate traffic I won't spend another penny with them.
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Old 12-22-2004, 02:07 PM   #33
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I turn profitability, not big one, but ok. It's hard to convert traffic even at low bids. The volume is significant which is good. If you keep experimenting probably you'll figure what you are doing wrong and which things you need to change.
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Old 12-22-2004, 02:08 PM   #34
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Hi,

I have been a Sex.Com account manager for the past 3 years and hopefully I can clear up some confusion and concerns posted in this thread

I just wrote a pretty long reponse to this thread that was up on the board for about an hour and then it disappeared in the GFY upgrade...Let me try and summarize here

1. Sex.Com has an extensive affiliate network that sends our advertisers traffic on top of our own type in traffic. We are continually adding quality new traffic affiliates as well as removing affiliates that we feel are under performing. This is done an an ongoing basis. We have an extensive set of fraud protections in place that make it so any click that is even deemed mildly suspicious doesnt debit your account. You will receive the click, but you are not charged for it

2. My advice for a new advertiser is that you should not bid higher than 5 cents per click until you have established success in our engine. The largest problem with our new advertisers is that they bid too aggressively, too early in the game. It is rare that a new advertiser can come in and bid in the top 3 spots on a highly searched set of phrases and continue to make money. Be cautious

3. If you are promoting an affiliate program paysite, please be certain to bid only on USA traffic (and perhaps Canada)..Results have shown that European traffic lowers ROI on affiliate paysite campaigns unless you are 100% confident that a specific country works for you.

4. If you are able to promote dialers, you can do so on country specific European traffic. Figure out what countries have historically been good for your dialer and bid in them...We get bids as high as 30 and 40cents in many European countries due to advertisers promoting dialers competing over the traffic

5. We offer a 25% match on the initial deposit to all new advertisers to help during the testing phase. My recommendation is a $500 deposit ($625 with the matching funds) to allow you to test to see what sites work and the optimum place to have your bids.

6. If you are unsure of what program's sites to promote in Sex.Com, I would advise to lean towards programs that offer Free and low priced trials. Our users respond well to the words FREE and CHEAP if what you are offering is actually free or cheap to try

7. Be as honest as you can in your title and description. If your site offers a $2.95, 3Day Trial... make sure you put that in your title. It cuts out curioisty clicks of people who click just to see how much your site costs. It sounds simple, but this helps a good deal

I can understand why many of you who failed on your intital $100 or $200 test with would be hesitant to try our traffic again. But, if you stay cautious and follow the steps I outlined above, you can join the thousands of active advertisers who are succeeding with our traffic

I can be reached at ICQ 160804042 or briang AT sex DOT com if you need any assistance at all

Thanks,
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Thanks for clearing that up. I would like to talk to you in the future, after the holidays
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Old 12-22-2004, 02:09 PM   #35
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dont know about everyone else.. but i know that the porndollar webmasters that use sex.com do really well..

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I'm very surprised so many people have had failed results. Is there a way to disable affiliate traffic? I'd be interested in trying them out but based on these comments, affiliate fraud is not being weeded out well enough. Either way, I'd only be interested in their type-in traffic base.

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im actually about to start up a campaign on sex.com..


I will cross my fingers..

Does that one sales guy that used to work at galaxy net still work at sex.com?

I cant remember his name now..
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If that is true that would be great, although my rep has never suggested this, even after my whining about the recent influx of .... traffic from affiliates.
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If that is true that would be great, although my rep has never suggested this, even after my whining about the recent influx of .... traffic from affiliates.
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Sex.com should brand itself ...

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I thought their traffic comes from type ins.
I thought so too. Adult affiliate traffic they get must be the pits ... why else would it be sent there

I'm surprised sex.com doesn't push its brand more aggressively.

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Shit, my post didn't make it either.

Brian has been my rep for about 2 years now, and if you're having bad luck just get ahold of him. He knows the system better than anyone and always knows the answer to questions.

I'll stick by sex.com and continue to spend $ with them.
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im actually about to start up a campaign on sex.com..


I will cross my fingers..

Does that one sales guy that used to work at galaxy net still work at sex.com?

I cant remember his name now..
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sex.com probably has one hermit living in a hut in a misc third world country thats connected to a satelite, which sends traffic to your site and scrambles the ip for each hit, thus leaving you with the shittiest, non-converting traffic EVER.

like a year or so ago i contacted them and they replied back. i never felt confident in their approach to make a sale with me, and i never thought they would be worth the money. someone from there actually mailed me last week asking if i had changed my mind or something like that. no. i havent.

sex.com should just be sold to one of us...let us make it worth it.
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Old 12-30-2004, 01:47 AM   #49
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Old 12-30-2004, 01:53 AM   #50
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people use and renew with sex.com all the time. They have GREAT traffic, but like any traffic you need a BRAIN to convert it. Too many idiots are living in the past thinking you can convert with crappy sites - you can't. Posting sex.com has shit traffic is like saying to EACH and EVERY one of your affiliates and business associates that you don't have a fucking clue how to convert traffic.

I can't believe amount of idiots that will slam a site if they can't convert the traffic.

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