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Violetta · 12-30-2004, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Your currency is really that worthless? Maybe more of you should stay home and work on that instead of traveling.

The us money isnt worth as much as it used to, and it sucks. Hope my country goes poor soon, so that I can be filthy rich. Haha... na... I guess that would suck too! A 0.5 liter Coca Cola actually costs 2$ here in Norway. How much is it in america?

Short Irish Guy · 12-30-2004, 10:06 PM

Travelling from parts of the Northeastern United States down to parts of Alabama and Mississippi are like going into third world countries. Doesn't that count as foreign travel?

Short Irish Guy · 12-30-2004, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockatansky

The us money isnt worth as much as it used to, and it sucks. Hope my country goes poor soon, so that I can be filthy rich. Haha... na... I guess that would suck too! A 0.5 liter Coca Cola actually costs 2$ here in Norway. How much is it in america?

I picked up a 2-liter of Coke this morning for $0.79. 10 of them, in fact. Gotta love good rum and Coke at parties ;)

baddog · 12-30-2004, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

And then?

then I will know who it is sucking on my cock

baddog · 12-30-2004, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Well Baddog isnt going to explain...

Oh well.

sorry I had other things to do than keep refreshing this thread you stupid fuck

escorpio · 12-30-2004, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by uproared

I dont think I can do anything to strengthen our currency

... Just as you cant do anything about your non existent education and health systems ...Well not until the next election anyway (and ditto for us).

That said, I'd actually prefer the AUD to be WEAKER as I'm getting paid in USD.

Hey, we have a GREAT health care system, as long as you're either very poor or very rich. Are educashun sistim is pritty gud to.

Violetta · 12-30-2004, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Short Irish Guy

I picked up a 2-liter of Coke this morning for $0.79. 10 of them, in fact. Gotta love good rum and Coke at parties ;)

Hmm... thats not fair. Damn our oil

Joe Citizen · 12-31-2004, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by cspdinc

I see where Joes coming from, I travel the entire Us on a weekly basis and you can be in any town in any state and its all becoming the fucking same. same food same, stores everything is so predictable its freakin boring. I search out dives just to have some varience.

plop any us person down in any town in the us and he could find and make it his own in a day or two. try that plopping him down in a foreign country. different culture different ways of thinking. thats what hes tryin gto say.

Yep, that is what I was saying.

It is idiotic to suggest that regional differences in the United States are anything like the vast differences in the cultures of the different European nations.

Anyone who was done any real travel would know this.

WarChild · 12-31-2004, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

theres not 1 country in the world where the people are so full of themselves and their country as the US.

Why you wonder...well read the post with which i started this thread. Americans are told from the day they are born they rule the world and the rest of the world still lives in the dark ages.

Curiously enough, there's not 1 country in the world as successful as America, either. Strong arrogance to you perhaps, but others might call it cool confidence. You become what you believe you will become.

Dirty F · 12-31-2004, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Curiously enough, there's not 1 country in the world as successful as America

Really? Successful in what exactly are you talking about?

WarChild · 12-31-2004, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Really? Successful in what exactly are you talking about?

At first I was going to list things like economy, millitary power, foreign influence, etc. Then I realized that you won't see any success stories in America.

Jakke PNG · 12-31-2004, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

At first I was going to list things like economy, millitary power, foreign influence, etc. Then I realized that you won't see any success stories in America.

Military power for sure, and foreign influence too.. but I can't say I'm impressed by the current economy. I want euro to weaken, not USD. lol

Dirty F · 12-31-2004, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

At first I was going to list things like economy, millitary power, foreign influence, etc. Then I realized that you won't see any success stories in America.

Econony? Are you crazy? There are plenty of other countries where to economy is not just better but way better.
Military power: Yup, youre right, your army is quite impressive. I guess you need an army like that if youre in constant war with other countries.
Foreign influence: Just as much as Europe, maybe a bit less, maybe it a bit more, its hard to compare since there are so many countries in Europe but as a whole i dont think you have more power than Europe.
Basically, the only way you can say you have more influence is because your country is a continent, its big.

Now give me some real things in what youre more succesful in then all the other countries.

WarChild · 12-31-2004, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Military power for sure, and foreign influence too.. but I can't say I'm impressed by the current economy. I want euro to weaken, not USD. lol

The fact of the matter is the US economy is still the strongest. The European Union, has a larger GDP but only by virtue of population. America has had and continues to have a higher GDP per capita than the entire European Union. No single European country even comes close.

Dirty F · 12-31-2004, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

The fact of the matter is the US economy is still the strongest.

How come you think that? Where you get this idea from?

WarChild · 12-31-2004, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Econony? Are you crazy? There are plenty of other countries where to economy is not just better but way better.

Where? What countries have a better economy? What countries have a much better economy? What do you base your assumptions on?

Paul Markham · 12-31-2004, 05:11 AM

A couple of years ago I met some people in Vegas, we were playing Blackjack at the same table. They asked where I was from and I told them that I live in Czech but come from London and to my shame speak little Czech.

They were totally amazed that I would live in a country where I was not born and could not speak the language. Then another person joined in to say that two years ago they had gone on a coach holiday visiting London, Paris, Geneva, Viena and Rome.

I asked how they enjoyed it and they said they had a wonderful time and were lucky that all the hotels were located near the MacDonalds in the city.

They had traveled to some of the greatest food centres in the world and were eating MacDonalds, which they assumed we only had a few of.

When the new 2257 regulations came out, there was an immediate out cry that us European content providers would be in trouble having to supply International Passports as IDs. It showed how many Americans actually have a passport and their take on whether we have them. I can't remember the last time a girl turned up for a shoot telling us she did not own a passport.

The reason for travelling is to experience other peoples take on life, their views, their culture and their beliefs. If you travel the length of California the enviroment changes and little else.

Paul Markham · 12-31-2004, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Where? What countries have a better economy? What countries have a much better economy? What do you base your assumptions on?

The fact that without the foriegn loans the US economy would collapse.

Dirty F · 12-31-2004, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Where? What countries have a better economy? What countries have a much better economy? What do you base your assumptions on?

Wait, i asked you first. This topic is about American ignorance and arrogance. You do exactly what im talking about. You start talking bullshit while you dont even know what youre saying.

Now tell me, what makes you think the US has the best economy in the world?

WarChild · 12-31-2004, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by charly

The fact that without the foriegn loans the US economy would collapse.

And without the US economy a lot of foreign economies would collapse. It's interlinked.

I'm not trying to say America is the shining example of a perfectly run country. But let's give some credit where credit is due. They don't call the King of Holland the "Leader of the free world" and pop culture isn't ripe with references to the "Canadian Dream". Oil is still sold in Petro Dollars. 5% of the world's population lives in America, yet at a minimum 40% of all foreign aid comes from America.

Could America be better do better? Absolutely. America is a very rich nation and it's lead by even richer people that are completely out of touch with the population. In an ideal world things would be different. In this world, America is a pretty good success story. Trying to say otherwise is folly.

WarChild · 12-31-2004, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Wait, i asked you first. This topic is about American ignorance and arrogance. You do exactly what im talking about. You start talking bullshit while you dont even know what youre saying.

Now tell me, what makes you think the US has the best economy in the world?

Well I'm no economist, but I do read some of what economists have to say. Here's a good read for you tonight.

If the European Union were a state in the USA it would belong to the poorest group of states. France, Italy, Great Britain and Germany have lower GDP per capita than all but four of the states in the United States. In fact, GDP per capita is lower in the vast majority of the EU-countries (EU 15) than in most of the individual American states. This puts Europeans at a level of prosperity on par with states such as Arkansas, Mississippi and West Virginia. Only the miniscule country of Luxembourg has higher per capita GDP than the average state in the USA. The results of the new study represent a grave critique of European economic policy.

Stark differences become apparent when comparing official economic statistics. Europe lags behind the USA when comparing GDP per capita and GDP growth rates. The current economic debate among EU leaders lacks an understanding of the gravity of the situation in many European countries. Structural reforms of the European economy as well as far reaching welfare reforms are well overdue. The Lisbon process lacks true impetus, nor is it sufficient to improve the economic prospects of the EU.

EU versus USA is written by Dr Fredrik Bergström, President of the Swedish Research Institute of Trade, and Mr Robert Gidehag, until recently Chief Economist of the same institute and now President of the Swedish Taxpayer's Association.

http://www.timbro.com/euvsusa/pdf/EU_vs_USA_English.pdf

WarChild · 12-31-2004, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Wait, i asked you first. This topic is about American ignorance and arrogance. You do exactly what im talking about. You start talking bullshit while you dont even know what youre saying.

Now tell me, what makes you think the US has the best economy in the world?

China is still a developing nation, and does not yet have the economic power of the USA. Nations like Japan, Saudia Arabia are very wealthy, but the economy is just not comparable. If you were in charge of sales for an international company, which market would you most like to have access to?

American's are the world's largest consumers. Here's another quote from the paper I referenced for you above:

"Higher GDP per capita allows the average American to spend about $9,700 more on consumption every year than the average European. So Yanks have by far more cars, TVs, computers and other modern goods. "Most Americans have a standard of living which the majority of Europeans will never come anywhere near," the Swedish study says."

Dirty F · 12-31-2004, 05:25 AM

I think a lot of Americans are confusing bigger with better. I totally agree, you have more of everything. You give more, you take more, you make more, you have a bigger army etc. Thats simply because your country is insanely big.

But when you look at living standards then there are in western Europe alone several countries who simply have a better living standard in many ways. Better healthcare, less poverty, more money, safer, etc.
I name countries like Luxembourg, the countries in Scandanavia, possibly Holland, and Ireland for sure.

Dirty F · 12-31-2004, 05:27 AM

Btw, sorry to prove you wrong again, Luxembourg has a higher gdp than the US. It might be just one country, but once again, you are NOT # 1.

WarChild · 12-31-2004, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

But when you look at living standards then there are in western Europe alone several countries who simply have a better living standard in many ways. Better healthcare, less poverty, more money, safer, etc.
I name countries like Luxembourg, the countries in Scandanavia, possibly Holland, and Ireland for sure.

From the same Swiss report:

But what about equality? Well, the percentage of Americans living below the poverty line has dropped to 12% from 22% since 1959. In 1999, 25% of American households were considered "low income," meaning they had an annual income of less than $25,000. If Sweden--the very model of a modern welfare state--were judged by the same standard, about 40% of its households would be considered low-income.
In other words poverty is relative, and in the U.S. a large 45.9% of the "poor" own their homes, 72.8% have a car and almost 77% have air conditioning, which remains a luxury in most of Western Europe. The average living space for poor American households is 1,200 square feet. In Europe, the average space for all households, not just the poor, is 1,000 square feet.

Dirty F · 12-31-2004, 05:31 AM

What im simply trying to say is, there are plenty of countries which are as good (in whatever ways) or better than America. Yet they dont have the idiotic arrogance and ignorance a lot of Americans have.
Why, because they arent raised that way. They dont feel the need to put flags on everything. They dont have a president who says god bless our country in every 2nd sentence. They learn about other countries at school. They are interested in other countries. Something most Americans totally lack.

Are you still not getting my point?

Look at people like Baddog, he is the perfect example of what im talking about. He lives in a fantasy world called America and anything that can burst his little shit bubble is attacked right away, no matter if hes wrong or right. Its simply pathetic.

WarChild · 12-31-2004, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Btw, sorry to prove you wrong again, Luxembourg has a higher gdp than the US. It might be just one country, but once again, you are NOT # 1.

It's GDP is much smaller than Americas. It's per capita GDP is higher than the American average. It's lower than some individual states, like Deleware for instance.

You can't even grasp, even though I've told you countless number of times, that I am not American. I'm Canadian. I'm not just some dumb hick blindly defending my homeland as you'd like to think.

I've stated numerous times that America is not perfect. As not perfect goes, it's a pretty good success story.

You're as much of an extremist against America as the people you mock as being rednecks are for America.

Jakke PNG · 12-31-2004, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

From the same Swiss report:

But what about equality? Well, the percentage of Americans living below the poverty line has dropped to 12% from 22% since 1959. In 1999, 25% of American households were considered "low income," meaning they had an annual income of less than $25,000. If Sweden--the very model of a modern welfare state--were judged by the same standard, about 40% of its households would be considered low-income.
In other words poverty is relative, and in the U.S. a large 45.9% of the "poor" own their homes, 72.8% have a car and almost 77% have air conditioning, which remains a luxury in most of Western Europe. The average living space for poor American households is 1,200 square feet. In Europe, the average space for all households, not just the poor, is 1,000 square feet.

Well, I'm not sure if the income is before or after taxes. If it's after, you have to remember that most european countries have free healthcare, free schools inclusing universities etc etc.. which are established by BIG taxing on EVERYTHING, including gas, income, alcohol.. you name it.
I also bet that most americans have WAY more loans than europeans (car payments, mortgages...everything paid by creditcards etc). So it's 2 totally different worlds and imho US and europe shouldn't be directly compared.
The economy, stance on religion and almost EVERYTHING is totally different.

But if arguing makes your penis hard, by all means try to prove us that you're superior (although that doesn't make YOU superior, so I don't know why bother). Carry on.

WarChild · 12-31-2004, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

But if arguing makes your penis hard, by all means try to prove us that you're superior (although that doesn't make YOU superior, so I don't know why bother). Carry on.

How does me being superior or not being superior even enter in to the argument? I'm not even American. I'm just giving a little credit where perhaps some is due.

Jakke PNG · 12-31-2004, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

How does me being superior or not being superior even enter in to the argument? I'm not even American. I'm just giving a little credit where perhaps some is due.

Argh. The point I was making was that even though america might be a success story (or not), it doesn't make the individual living in that country any better. Why try to convince yourselves that *YOU* as a person are better off than anyone else, say in europe. It simply is not true.

WarChild · 12-31-2004, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Argh. The point I was making was that even though america might be a success story (or not), it doesn't make the individual living in that country any better. Why try to convince yourselves that *YOU* as a person are better off than anyone else, say in europe. It simply is not true.

I never said I or anybody else is better off living in America. I never said any individual was better than anyone else, either.

I myself prefer Costa Rica and consider Canada a close second. I could live in America if I wanted to. People have different tastes and different cultues. Live where you want, and be happy. Who cares if American's think their shit don't stink? Don't like it? Ignore them. We're all big boys here.

WarChild · 12-31-2004, 05:44 AM

Franck, try to understand I don't think American's are any better than you, me or anybody else. I think we all have our own strengths. Why does it bother you so much what American's think?

On that note, I'm going to sleep.

Jakke PNG · 12-31-2004, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

Who cares if American's think their shit don't stink? Don't like it? Ignore them. We're all big boys here.

Ha! But that's the entire point of the thread (me thinks). Americans feel the urge to showe their superiority down our throats, and considers outsiders as idiots if they don't think usa is the best, even without ever leaving their own country to see rest of the world before making the statement. There are idiots on other countries as well, naturally.. but somehow the americans seem to stand out.

WarChild · 12-31-2004, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

WarChildWho cares if American's think their shit don't stink? Don't like it? Ignore them. We're all big boys here.
Ha! But that's the entire point of the thread (me thinks). Americans feel the urge to showe their superiority down our throats, and considers outsiders as idiots if they don't think usa is the best, even without ever leaving their own country to see rest of the world before making the statement. There are idiots on other countries as well, naturally.. but somehow the americans seem to stand out.

I've never had an American corner me in Canada and force down my throat how great he is. Actually, I've never had an American do that to me anywhere in the world. Never one time.

So there's some loud mouths piping off about how great America is on an American based message board? You find that surprising? Do 12clicks or theking spam European message boards with their nonsense?

WarChild · 12-31-2004, 05:50 AM

Okay I'm really going to bed.

Good night.

Joe Citizen · 06-17-2005, 11:23 PM

Classic thread filled with so many unsurprising, ignorant comments.

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Originally Posted by GatorB

I have never been outside the US and have absolutely ZERO desire to leave.

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Originally Posted by baddog

Yeah, I am sure there is a huge difference between the Netherlands, Germany and Switzerland. So different.

GatorB · 06-17-2005, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Franck

Unlike many other countries in the developed world, where it is almost traditional to travel internationally soon after graduation, most americans will never stray outside their own borders; so they get no real firsthand experience of what the rest of the world is like, .

So fucking what? Who cares what the rest of the world is like? Not everyone can afford to go travel around the world. And If I did have the money, I can find better ways of spending it. Besides considering how Americans are hated and how many "disappear" or get framed and end up in foreign prisons why would ANY American want to leave? Ask Nick Berg how his trip to Iraq was.

America is the 3rd largest country in the world. It's also bigger than Europe whch is fucking continent. So one could spend their whole life visiting America and not see the same place twice. So why leave. I never been outside the US and have ZERO desire too. And I'm not going to just to please you.

How much of your own country have you visted? Have you've been to EVERY state yet? Notice how many MILLLIONS have emigrated to America? Why is that. Oh yeah, their own countries suck. So I am suppose to visit sucky countires?

DWB · 06-17-2005, 11:35 PM

Great post.

DWB · 06-17-2005, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

So fucking what? Who cares what the rest of the world is like? Not everyone can afford to go travel around the world. And If I did have the money, I can find better ways of spending it. Besides considering how Americans are hated and how many "disappear" or get framed and end up in foreign prisons why would ANY American want to leave? Ask Nick Berg how his trip to Iraq was.

America is the 3rd largest country in the world. It's also bigger than Europe whch is fucking continent. So one could spend their whole life visiting America and not see the same place twice. So why leave. I never been outside the US and have ZERO desire too. And I'm not going to just to please you.

How much of your own country have you visted? Have you've been to EVERY state yet? Notice how many MILLLIONS have emigrated to America? Why is that. Oh yeah, their own countries suck. So I am suppose to visit sucky countires?

That is the exact mindset of many americans. If your happy with that, more power to you. I guess you never know what your missing until you have seen it.

GatorB · 06-17-2005, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

That is the exact mindset of many americans. If your happy with that, more power to you. I guess you never know what your missing until you have seen it.

Plenty of America I haven't seen yet. I think before some Americans go spouting off about "what you are missing" by not visiting other countries they should see more of their own country. Besides I'm not much of traveler.

DWB · 06-17-2005, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Thank you.

Sure, some Euro trash can graduate highschool and hitchhike across Europe and be an International traveler. Lots of high school graduates here travel across the states for the same money, and experience more cultures.

Anyone that doesn't think that different states don't have extremely different cultures has never traveled the USA. And I don't mean in a jet.

I have to disagree with you here.

I have driven from NYC to LA 3 times. Even hitchhiked once from Ohio to Arizona when I was younger. Been in every state at least once for one reason or another, but mostly just to see what was going on there.

None of that, and I mean NONE of it even comes close to the experiences and cultures I have encountered abroad.

Europe was nothing special but Asia and South America is truly unique. You could NEVER find the same culture in the USA as you can in these places.

I'm not slamming America because it really is a beautiful place to see and travel through, but one must see many other parts of the world to really understand how things work outside of the bubble us Americans call home.

DWB · 06-17-2005, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Besides I'm not much of traveler.

There is nothing wrong with that man so long as you are not the kind to spout out that America is the greatest place on earth.

Joe Citizen · 06-17-2005, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Plenty of America I haven't seen yet....

YOU are missing the point... International travel gets you out of your own fucking country and then you get just to experience something REALLY different.

But on second thoughts don't leave the USA. International travel would be wasted on you. You've already stated you don't have the desire to leave.

If ignorance is bliss, you must be on cloud 9.

woj · 06-17-2005, 11:51 PM

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Joe Citizen · 06-17-2005, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

There is nothing wrong with that man so long as you are not the kind to spout out that America is the greatest place on earth.

Nah...he wouldn't do that.

Manowar · 06-18-2005, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

So fucking what? Who cares what the rest of the world is like? Not everyone can afford to go travel around the world. And If I did have the money, I can find better ways of spending it. Besides considering how Americans are hated and how many "disappear" or get framed and end up in foreign prisons why would ANY American want to leave? Ask Nick Berg how his trip to Iraq was.

America is the 3rd largest country in the world. It's also bigger than Europe whch is fucking continent. So one could spend their whole life visiting America and not see the same place twice. So why leave. I never been outside the US and have ZERO desire too. And I'm not going to just to please you.

How much of your own country have you visted? Have you've been to EVERY state yet? Notice how many MILLLIONS have emigrated to America? Why is that. Oh yeah, their own countries suck. So I am suppose to visit sucky countires?

jonesy · 06-18-2005, 01:20 AM

wow old thread but funny as hell.

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Originally Posted by WarChild

The fact of the matter is the US economy is still the strongest.

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Originally Posted by Franck

How come you think that? Where you get this idea from?

because american money is accepted worldwide and that cant be said for any other nation ....

Joe Citizen · 06-18-2005, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jonesy

because american money is accepted worldwide and that cant be said for any other nation ....

Are you an idiot?

Do you really think you can walk into a shop in Australia and pay in US Dollars?

jonesy · 06-18-2005, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

So fucking what? Who cares what the rest of the world is like? Not everyone can afford to go travel around the world. And If I did have the money, I can find better ways of spending it. Besides considering how Americans are hated and how many "disappear" or get framed and end up in foreign prisons why would ANY American want to leave? Ask Nick Berg how his trip to Iraq was.

America is the 3rd largest country in the world. It's also bigger than Europe whch is fucking continent. So one could spend their whole life visiting America and not see the same place twice. So why leave. I never been outside the US and have ZERO desire too. And I'm not going to just to please you.

How much of your own country have you visted? Have you've been to EVERY state yet? Notice how many MILLLIONS have emigrated to America? Why is that. Oh yeah, their own countries suck. So I am suppose to visit sucky countires?

your posts in this thread have solidified your standing as the poster boy for ignorance and inbreeding.

jonesy · 06-18-2005, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Citizen

Are you an idiot?

Do you really think you can walk into a shop in Australia and pay in US Dollars?

yes. do you need proof?

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12-31-2004, 05:25 AM	#223
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	I think a lot of Americans are confusing bigger with better. I totally agree, you have more of everything. You give more, you take more, you make more, you have a bigger army etc. Thats simply because your country is insanely big. But when you look at living standards then there are in western Europe alone several countries who simply have a better living standard in many ways. Better healthcare, less poverty, more money, safer, etc. I name countries like Luxembourg, the countries in Scandanavia, possibly Holland, and Ireland for sure.

12-31-2004, 05:27 AM	#224
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Btw, sorry to prove you wrong again, Luxembourg has a higher gdp than the US. It might be just one country, but once again, you are NOT # 1.

12-31-2004, 05:31 AM	#226
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	What im simply trying to say is, there are plenty of countries which are as good (in whatever ways) or better than America. Yet they dont have the idiotic arrogance and ignorance a lot of Americans have. Why, because they arent raised that way. They dont feel the need to put flags on everything. They dont have a president who says god bless our country in every 2nd sentence. They learn about other countries at school. They are interested in other countries. Something most Americans totally lack. Are you still not getting my point? Look at people like Baddog, he is the perfect example of what im talking about. He lives in a fantasy world called America and anything that can burst his little shit bubble is attacked right away, no matter if hes wrong or right. Its simply pathetic.

06-17-2005, 11:35 PM	#238
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Great post.