The us money isnt worth as much as it used to, and it sucks. Hope my country goes poor soon, so that I can be filthy rich. Haha... na... I guess that would suck too! A 0.5 liter Coca Cola actually costs 2$ here in Norway. How much is it in america?

Travelling from parts of the Northeastern United States down to parts of Alabama and Mississippi are like going into third world countries. Doesn't that count as foreign travel? :thumbsup

I picked up a 2-liter of Coke this morning for $0.79. 10 of them, in fact. Gotta love good rum and Coke at parties ;)

then I will know who it is sucking on my cock

sorry I had other things to do than keep refreshing this thread you stupid fuck

Hey, we have a GREAT health care system, as long as you're either very poor or very rich. Are educashun sistim is pritty gud to.

Hmm... thats not fair. Damn our oil

Yep, that is what I was saying.

It is idiotic to suggest that regional differences in the United States are anything like the vast differences in the cultures of the different European nations.

Anyone who was done any real travel would know this.

Curiously enough, there's not 1 country in the world as successful as America, either. Strong arrogance to you perhaps, but others might call it cool confidence. You become what you believe you will become. :2 cents:

Really? Successful in what exactly are you talking about?

At first I was going to list things like economy, millitary power, foreign influence, etc. Then I realized that you won't see any success stories in America.

Military power for sure, and foreign influence too.. but I can't say I'm impressed by the current economy. I want euro to weaken, not USD. lol :)

Econony? Are you crazy? There are plenty of other countries where to economy is not just better but way better.
Military power: Yup, youre right, your army is quite impressive. I guess you need an army like that if youre in constant war with other countries.
Foreign influence: Just as much as Europe, maybe a bit less, maybe it a bit more, its hard to compare since there are so many countries in Europe but as a whole i dont think you have more power than Europe.
Basically, the only way you can say you have more influence is because your country is a continent, its big.

Now give me some real things in what youre more succesful in then all the other countries.

The fact of the matter is the US economy is still the strongest. The European Union, has a larger GDP but only by virtue of population. America has had and continues to have a higher GDP per capita than the entire European Union. No single European country even comes close.

How come you think that? Where you get this idea from?

Where? What countries have a better economy? What countries have a much better economy? What do you base your assumptions on?

A couple of years ago I met some people in Vegas, we were playing Blackjack at the same table. They asked where I was from and I told them that I live in Czech but come from London and to my shame speak little Czech.

They were totally amazed that I would live in a country where I was not born and could not speak the language. Then another person joined in to say that two years ago they had gone on a coach holiday visiting London, Paris, Geneva, Viena and Rome.

I asked how they enjoyed it and they said they had a wonderful time and were lucky that all the hotels were located near the MacDonalds in the city.

They had traveled to some of the greatest food centres in the world and were eating MacDonalds, which they assumed we only had a few of.

When the new 2257 regulations came out, there was an immediate out cry that us European content providers would be in trouble having to supply International Passports as IDs. It showed how many Americans actually have a passport and their take on whether we have them. I can't remember the last time a girl turned up for a shoot telling us she did not own a passport.

The reason for travelling is to experience other peoples take on life, their views, their culture and their beliefs. If you travel the length of California the enviroment changes and little else.

The fact that without the foriegn loans the US economy would collapse.

Wait, i asked you first. This topic is about American ignorance and arrogance. You do exactly what im talking about. You start talking bullshit while you dont even know what youre saying.

Now tell me, what makes you think the US has the best economy in the world?

And without the US economy a lot of foreign economies would collapse. It's interlinked.

I'm not trying to say America is the shining example of a perfectly run country. But let's give some credit where credit is due. They don't call the King of Holland the "Leader of the free world" and pop culture isn't ripe with references to the "Canadian Dream". Oil is still sold in Petro Dollars. 5% of the world's population lives in America, yet at a minimum 40% of all foreign aid comes from America.

Could America be better do better? Absolutely. America is a very rich nation and it's lead by even richer people that are completely out of touch with the population. In an ideal world things would be different. In this world, America is a pretty good success story. Trying to say otherwise is folly.

Well I'm no economist, but I do read some of what economists have to say. Here's a good read for you tonight.

If the European Union were a state in the USA it would belong to the poorest group of states. France, Italy, Great Britain and Germany have lower GDP per capita than all but four of the states in the United States. In fact, GDP per capita is lower in the vast majority of the EU-countries (EU 15) than in most of the individual American states. This puts Europeans at a level of prosperity on par with states such as Arkansas, Mississippi and West Virginia. Only the miniscule country of Luxembourg has higher per capita GDP than the average state in the USA. The results of the new study represent a grave critique of European economic policy.

Stark differences become apparent when comparing official economic statistics. Europe lags behind the USA when comparing GDP per capita and GDP growth rates. The current economic debate among EU leaders lacks an understanding of the gravity of the situation in many European countries. Structural reforms of the European economy as well as far reaching welfare reforms are well overdue. The Lisbon process lacks true impetus, nor is it sufficient to improve the economic prospects of the EU.

EU versus USA is written by Dr Fredrik Bergström, President of the Swedish Research Institute of Trade, and Mr Robert Gidehag, until recently Chief Economist of the same institute and now President of the Swedish Taxpayer's Association.

http://www.timbro.com/euvsusa/pdf/EU_vs_USA_English.pdf

China is still a developing nation, and does not yet have the economic power of the USA. Nations like Japan, Saudia Arabia are very wealthy, but the economy is just not comparable. If you were in charge of sales for an international company, which market would you most like to have access to?

American's are the world's largest consumers. Here's another quote from the paper I referenced for you above:

"Higher GDP per capita allows the average American to spend about $9,700 more on consumption every year than the average European. So Yanks have by far more cars, TVs, computers and other modern goods. "Most Americans have a standard of living which the majority of Europeans will never come anywhere near," the Swedish study says."

I think a lot of Americans are confusing bigger with better. I totally agree, you have more of everything. You give more, you take more, you make more, you have a bigger army etc. Thats simply because your country is insanely big.

But when you look at living standards then there are in western Europe alone several countries who simply have a better living standard in many ways. Better healthcare, less poverty, more money, safer, etc.
I name countries like Luxembourg, the countries in Scandanavia, possibly Holland, and Ireland for sure.

Btw, sorry to prove you wrong again, Luxembourg has a higher gdp than the US. It might be just one country, but once again, you are NOT # 1.

From the same Swiss report:

But what about equality? Well, the percentage of Americans living below the poverty line has dropped to 12% from 22% since 1959. In 1999, 25% of American households were considered "low income," meaning they had an annual income of less than $25,000. If Sweden--the very model of a modern welfare state--were judged by the same standard, about 40% of its households would be considered low-income.
In other words poverty is relative, and in the U.S. a large 45.9% of the "poor" own their homes, 72.8% have a car and almost 77% have air conditioning, which remains a luxury in most of Western Europe. The average living space for poor American households is 1,200 square feet. In Europe, the average space for all households, not just the poor, is 1,000 square feet.

What im simply trying to say is, there are plenty of countries which are as good (in whatever ways) or better than America. Yet they dont have the idiotic arrogance and ignorance a lot of Americans have.
Why, because they arent raised that way. They dont feel the need to put flags on everything. They dont have a president who says god bless our country in every 2nd sentence. They learn about other countries at school. They are interested in other countries. Something most Americans totally lack.

Are you still not getting my point?

Look at people like Baddog, he is the perfect example of what im talking about. He lives in a fantasy world called America and anything that can burst his little shit bubble is attacked right away, no matter if hes wrong or right. Its simply pathetic.

It's GDP is much smaller than Americas. It's per capita GDP is higher than the American average. It's lower than some individual states, like Deleware for instance.

You can't even grasp, even though I've told you countless number of times, that I am not American. I'm Canadian. I'm not just some dumb hick blindly defending my homeland as you'd like to think.

I've stated numerous times that America is not perfect. As not perfect goes, it's a pretty good success story.

You're as much of an extremist against America as the people you mock as being rednecks are for America.

Well, I'm not sure if the income is before or after taxes. If it's after, you have to remember that most european countries have free healthcare, free schools inclusing universities etc etc.. which are established by BIG taxing on EVERYTHING, including gas, income, alcohol.. you name it.
I also bet that most americans have WAY more loans than europeans (car payments, mortgages...everything paid by creditcards etc). So it's 2 totally different worlds and imho US and europe shouldn't be directly compared.
The economy, stance on religion and almost EVERYTHING is totally different.

But if arguing makes your penis hard, by all means try to prove us that you're superior (although that doesn't make YOU superior, so I don't know why bother). Carry on.

How does me being superior or not being superior even enter in to the argument? I'm not even American. I'm just giving a little credit where perhaps some is due.

Argh. The point I was making was that even though america might be a success story (or not), it doesn't make the individual living in that country any better. Why try to convince yourselves that *YOU* as a person are better off than anyone else, say in europe. It simply is not true.

I never said I or anybody else is better off living in America. I never said any individual was better than anyone else, either.

I myself prefer Costa Rica and consider Canada a close second. I could live in America if I wanted to. People have different tastes and different cultues. Live where you want, and be happy. Who cares if American's think their shit don't stink? Don't like it? Ignore them. We're all big boys here.

Franck, try to understand I don't think American's are any better than you, me or anybody else. I think we all have our own strengths. Why does it bother you so much what American's think?

On that note, I'm going to sleep.

Ha! But that's the entire point of the thread (me thinks). Americans feel the urge to showe their superiority down our throats, and considers outsiders as idiots if they don't think usa is the best, even without ever leaving their own country to see rest of the world before making the statement. There are idiots on other countries as well, naturally.. but somehow the americans seem to stand out.

I've never had an American corner me in Canada and force down my throat how great he is. Actually, I've never had an American do that to me anywhere in the world. Never one time.

So there's some loud mouths piping off about how great America is on an American based message board? You find that surprising? Do 12clicks or theking spam European message boards with their nonsense?

Okay I'm really going to bed.

Good night.

Classic thread filled with so many unsurprising, ignorant comments. :1orglaugh

So fucking what? Who cares what the rest of the world is like? Not everyone can afford to go travel around the world. And If I did have the money, I can find better ways of spending it. Besides considering how Americans are hated and how many "disappear" or get framed and end up in foreign prisons why would ANY American want to leave? Ask Nick Berg how his trip to Iraq was.

America is the 3rd largest country in the world. It's also bigger than Europe whch is fucking continent. So one could spend their whole life visiting America and not see the same place twice. So why leave. I never been outside the US and have ZERO desire too. And I'm not going to just to please you.

How much of your own country have you visted? Have you've been to EVERY state yet? Notice how many MILLLIONS have emigrated to America? Why is that. Oh yeah, their own countries suck. So I am suppose to visit sucky countires?

Great post.

That is the exact mindset of many americans. If your happy with that, more power to you. I guess you never know what your missing until you have seen it.

Plenty of America I haven't seen yet. I think before some Americans go spouting off about "what you are missing" by not visiting other countries they should see more of their own country. Besides I'm not much of traveler.

I have to disagree with you here.

I have driven from NYC to LA 3 times. Even hitchhiked once from Ohio to Arizona when I was younger. Been in every state at least once for one reason or another, but mostly just to see what was going on there.

None of that, and I mean NONE of it even comes close to the experiences and cultures I have encountered abroad.

Europe was nothing special but Asia and South America is truly unique. You could NEVER find the same culture in the USA as you can in these places.

I'm not slamming America because it really is a beautiful place to see and travel through, but one must see many other parts of the world to really understand how things work outside of the bubble us Americans call home. :2 cents:

There is nothing wrong with that man so long as you are not the kind to spout out that America is the greatest place on earth.

YOU are missing the point... International travel gets you out of your own fucking country and then you get just to experience something REALLY different.

But on second thoughts don't leave the USA. International travel would be wasted on you. You've already stated you don't have the desire to leave.

If ignorance is bliss, you must be on cloud 9. :1orglaugh

250........

Nah...he wouldn't do that. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

wow old thread but funny as hell.

because american money is accepted worldwide and that cant be said for any other nation ....

Are you an idiot?

Do you really think you can walk into a shop in Australia and pay in US Dollars?

your posts in this thread have solidified your standing as the poster boy for ignorance and inbreeding.

yes. do you need proof?