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crockett 12-29-2004 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Johny Traffic
We still give three times more than the US :smiling_b


Are you a moron? You are arguing this same shit in two topics.. spouting off about this yet you ignore the facts I presented you in the other topic.

Using your donations per person numbers and Yahoo's world fact book
it seems the US still donates more than France. However I think this method is flawed and I don't think it shows an accurate amount but assuming your numbers are correct it should be close..

United States $23.76 x 275,562,673 (est population) = $6,547,369,110.48

France $104.76 x 59,329,691 (est population) = $6,215,378,429.16

3. Denmark $302.72 x 5,336,394 (est population) = $1,615,433,191.68
2. Norway $307.95 x 4,481,162 (est population) = $1,379,973,837.90
1. Luxembourg $352.30 x 437,389 (est population) = $154,092,144.70

BTW to even back these numbers up here is another that shows almost the same numbers.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don

So unless your ass is Japanese STFU because you are wrong.

Sarah_Jayne 12-29-2004 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog
If your neighbor's house burned down, you would rebuild it for him? Please move next door to me.


I would take them in and give them a roof over their head and a warm bed until they could get into a place of their own.

BuckLover 12-29-2004 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett
Are you a moron? You are arguing this same shit in two topics.. spouting off about this yet you ignore the facts I presented you in the other topic.

Using your donations per person numbers and Yahoo's world fact book
it seems the US still donates more than France. However I think this method is flawed and I don't think it shows an accurate amount but assuming your numbers are correct it should be close..

United States $23.76 x 275,562,673 (est population) = $6,547,369,110.48

France $104.76 x 59,329,691 (est population) = $6,215,378,429.16

3. Denmark $302.72 x 5,336,394 (est population) = $1,615,433,191.68
2. Norway $307.95 x 4,481,162 (est population) = $1,379,973,837.90
1. Luxembourg $352.30 x 437,389 (est population) = $154,092,144.70

BTW to even back these numbers up here is another that shows almost the same numbers.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/eco_eco_aid_don

So unless your ass is Japanese STFU because you are wrong.


It's useless to argue with a retard like that! he doesn't get it!

It's fact we give out more aid than any other country! as a country, private sector, and of course govenrment. Not to mention zero interest loans!! military support.

Not to imply we are the only ones giving aid....

He hasn't got a clue! :2 cents:

Sarah_Jayne 12-29-2004 04:36 PM

anyway my answer is - because it is the right thing to do.


I have been interested in the way the British public has reacted to this. This country is HUGE on giving to charity (just don't get me started on how most of it is to animal charities) and it leads to an interesting reaction when they think their government isn't reflecting that. Originally it was said that the UK was only going to give one million pounds (plus whatever is given through the EU). Every radio show I turned on was British people saying it was disgusting it was and demanding their government give more. I woke up to a report that some 35 million pounds was now being given. It was just interesting to see a gov't be brow beaten into giving more tax payers money to another country.

Oh, and from what I read this is the biggest disater in Swedish history - give them a break, they are giving and doing what they can.

Webby 12-29-2004 04:37 PM

sarah_webinc:

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I would take them in and give them a roof over their head and a warm bed until they could get into a place of their own.
Yea!! Sounds sane!! :-)

Tho others may be more concerned about having a discussion over who gives most and who's turn it is to foot the bill for the heating... don't even dicuss the massive cost of food. That would sent em into a frenzy! :winkwink:

BuckLover 12-29-2004 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
anyway my answer is - because it is the right thing to do.


I have been interested in the way the British public has reacted to this. This country is HUGE on giving to charity (just don't get me started on how most of it is to animal charities) and it leads to an interesting reaction when they think their government isn't reflecting that. Originally it was said that the UK was only going to give one million pounds (plus whatever is given through the EU). Every radio show I turned on was British people saying it was disgusting it was and demanding their government give more. I woke up to a report that some 35 million pounds was now being given. It was just interesting to see a gov't be brow beaten into giving more tax payers money to another country.

Oh, and from what I read this is the biggest disater in Swedish history - give them a break, they are giving and doing what they can.



You are right! what's important is that everyone gives aid, and that the aid get's to where it's most needed! Who cares what the breakdowns are! :2 cents:

Scott McD 12-29-2004 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
ok i am a white man, and all these countires basically want the white man dead, they raise their children to hate the white man. they are jealous,


why dont the europeans help? they never do shit. last time i checked africa is fucked up because of the british and french, but no one says shit.

You are contradicting yourself here are you not ??

You say you don't wanna help because they hate the white man, and yet you want us (white) Europeans to help... :upsidedow

Scott McD 12-29-2004 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
This country is HUGE on giving to charity (just don't get me started on how most of it is to animal charities)

How do you mean ??

Webby 12-29-2004 04:54 PM

sarah_webinc:

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Originally it was said that the UK was only going to give one million pounds (plus whatever is given through the EU).
BTW... All these initial figures being mentioned from all over, - they ain't real so hard to condemn any of them. Nobody knows anything yet and till they have any clues, it's meaningless to talk money.

If even the UK govt was stupid enough to say there were offering a million UK pounds as their share of what appears to be the major disaster of our lifetimes, is the day they cease to exist as a government. Next please...

If any govt minister actually said that was their total contrib - they ain't gonna be any govt minister for long :-) It's hardly enough to build an decent office block.

Right now, I'd give credit to those on the ground helping - it is much more relevant that urgent support is there to help save more lives. So far, it seems both the Israeli and French units were there first and US has stuff on the way now.

BTW.. You heard in the UK if they got off their asses yet and any assistance started?

Sarah_Jayne 12-29-2004 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD
How do you mean ??


You guys have more animal charities than any other country I know of and it isn't a bad thing. I just sometimes think that humans get less play than the emotional blackmail charity adverts from the RSPCA, etc. However, that said, the emense social conscience this country has is part of the reason I chose to call it my home.

Webby 12-29-2004 04:57 PM

Scott McD:

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How do you mean ??
You from Glasgow SM? :-)

You must know UK folks treat animals better than some nations treat human beings?? :-)

Sarah_Jayne 12-29-2004 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
sarah_webinc:




Right now, I'd give credit to those on the ground helping - it is much more relevant that urgent support is there to help save more lives. So far, it seems both the Israeli and French units were there first and US has stuff on the way now.

BTW.. You heard in the UK if they got off their asses yet and any assistance started?

British are sending people to help. I do agree totally though. People giving Sweden a hard time for sending specialists to help? Well, sometimes it isn't all about money - there are people there that are going to be getting very sick, very soon and a doctor sent to help them is just as important as a few dollars.

Scott McD 12-29-2004 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby
Scott McD:



You from Glasgow SM? :-)

You must know UK folks treat animals better than some nations treat human beings?? :-)

I'm not so sure. I've seen enough bad shit that happens, and i hate it.

I know we might be alot better than other countries, but there is still a problem here...

Scott McD 12-29-2004 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc
You guys have more animal charities than any other country I know of and it isn't a bad thing. I just sometimes think that humans get less play than the emotional blackmail charity adverts from the RSPCA, etc. However, that said, the emense social conscience this country has is part of the reason I chose to call it my home.

I know where your coming from, but for me, i'd give my last penny to an animal charity.

It might sound strange, but it's just how i am with these things. Like you say, it's not a bad thing, i'm glad this country isn't as bad as many others with the way they treat animals...

Webby 12-29-2004 05:04 PM

sarah_webinc:

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British are sending people to help. I do agree totally though. People giving Sweden a hard time for sending specialists to help? Well, sometimes it isn't all about money - there are people there that are going to be getting very sick, very soon and a doctor sent to help them is just as important as a few dollars.
Yep!! Every one qualified person on the ground at the moment probably matters more than money right now. Folks can survive without food and water for a while, but can't if they get a bout of disease or no medical attention.

The effect of this is going to be massive, even on mental health alone.

Webby 12-29-2004 05:08 PM

Scott McD:

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I know we might be alot better than other countries, but there is still a problem here...
No place is perfect Scott... I'm from UK but got tired of bs and walked with my feet.

Since then... around 30 or so other UK familes seemed to have followed us and done the same! :-) And a number from both the US and Canada.

BTW... How much is "council tax" there now?? :-)

MetaMan 12-29-2004 05:13 PM

the death toll rises, wow o wow, i cannot even belive a disaster like this happened,

if anyone doesnt get the point yet i was trying to be extreme in certain posts on purpose.

anyone just see that new footage of like 15 people trying to hang onto a light poll i think it was and this giant wave just comes and knocks half them off.

what a way to go i mean seriously what a way to go, giant wave barelling in on you and you just stand there knowing you are basically screwd.

hopefully this will set up worldwide research so nothing like this ever happens again.

does anyone know anyone actually going down there?

The Bootyologist 12-29-2004 05:13 PM

this thread is still going?

KRL 12-29-2004 05:14 PM

This existence and dimension we all share is a process for the development of and testing of mankinds souls.

The ultimate goal is to become selfless. To give of yourself willingly without having to think about it, to care for others welfare and well being, to have compassion for those less fortunate, to forgive those who do you wrong, to teach positive traits to others and our children, to love unconditionally.

We as a united soul of people are from reaching this point in our spiritual growth. It is imperative that we all start to wake up to the fact that we are all brothers. We need to stop seeing each other for the color of our skin, the amount of each person's wealth or poverty, the color of our blood. Underneath all that we all look the same. We are all kindred spirits traveling through this journey together.

We need to elevate our minds from the way we look at things now to a much higher consciousness and spiritual way of thought. When we all start to do that and genuinely care about each other this planet will elevate itself to a much greater world, where love and peace will be our mantra.

Webby 12-29-2004 05:22 PM

MetaMan:

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hopefully this will set up worldwide research so nothing like this ever happens again.

does anyone know anyone actually going down there?
It does seem to be getting worse as more is known......

Only know one person, but he was not involved, but flew straight in their from Iraq after the shit hit. There are no problems getting in - it's the flights out that are the problem. He is a war photographer and I know why he is there :-) It ain't money or bullshit reasons - he knows he can do best by making it known what is happening and raise awareness down to the level of individual suffering. Basically the same reasons he shoots images of war.

Sarah_Jayne 12-29-2004 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

does anyone know anyone actually going down there?

One of my friends in the UK is originally from Thailand and moved here to train to be a doctor and stayed to work in the UK. He is going over to help for a few weeks.

andrej_NDC 12-29-2004 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan
so to sum up my point, the USA shouldnt give a dime to anyone and just let the stupid europeans save the world because i am sick and tired of seeing people hate on them then come begging.

Aren't you from Ukraine?

Johny Traffic 12-29-2004 05:55 PM

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Fucking moron! eat shit!
Your very clever :thumbsup

Johny Traffic 12-29-2004 05:57 PM

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Are you a moron? You are arguing this same shit in two topics.. spouting off about this yet you ignore the facts I presented you in the other topic.
You seem to be the only one who hasnt got it. You give less per person. Having alot of people doesnt meen you should give less per person

theking 12-29-2004 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bootyologist
us gives the lowest percentage of it's gross national product of all the countries ranked

Which is more total money than the other nations combined.

Webby 12-29-2004 06:43 PM

theKing:

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Which is more total money than the other nations combined.
Welcome back King! :-)

Since you still are laboring over they same old shit... once more, here are the facts:

http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/52/9/1893143.xls

And... a quick analysis is this:

The US contributes under 50% that of Europe, - basically 16254mill to Europe's 37139mill, - nevermind any other continents.

How do these figures remotely come near your mythical claim that the US contributes "is more total money than the other nations combined"???

Can you not add or is the calculator pad too blurred??

matrixxxlinks 12-29-2004 07:15 PM

USA is not a big donater
There eating my dollars right now
I have to see 30% flushes away
So, enough bladiladiladilbla, go do some housework
Clean your keyboard


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