Why do black people turn to islam? - educate me

[AkiraSS]

I don't like Islam. It's a militant religion, suppressing to individuality and freedom.

If you try to be a liberal muslim and don't follow their borg mind, you get shot. Women don't have freedom at all over there. Their whole culture is fucked up. You have to obey the group, you have to contribute to the group and die for a fucked-up cause. Yet they stick to it.

Why the hell do black people convert to islam then? They come from Africa. Their ancestors believed and still believe in lots of gods, which is ok.

Is it me or is the Islam being artificially being marketed to the black people in the US via more prominent public representatives and celebs?

[Ron]

Militant religion has nothing to do with islam. Islam is a religion just like catholic, they only have another book, the koran instead of teh bible, and they have another god.

Its the fundamentalistic people who kill in name of the islam who give islam a bad name.
Im not an islam expert but i know that islam says not to kill any people.

The catholics murdered thousands and thousands people 500 years ago, while the bible say: love your neighbour like you love yourself (or something).

Its not the religion, its the people who have their own interpretation of the bible/koran who kills..

Jut my 2 eurocents

[bllott]

Originally Posted by AkiraSS

I don't like Islam. It's a militant religion, suppressing to individuality and freedom.

If you try to be a liberal muslim and don't follow their borg mind, you get shot. Women don't have freedom at all over there. Their whole culture is fucked up. You have to obey the group, you have to contribute to the group and die for a fucked-up cause. Yet they stick to it.

Why the hell do black people convert to islam then? They come from Africa. Their ancestors believed and still believe in lots of gods, which is ok.

Is it me or is the Islam being artificially being marketed to the black people in the US via more prominent public representatives and celebs?

I don't think that's true. It's not only black people in particular that turn to islam, why would you say that? Islam is popular in many areas of the world.

Also I think you should educate yourself about islam before railing and saying they're all extremists because it's an extremist religion

[Fake Nick]

your views on what Islam is are obviously bogus


but your observation that black people are becoming muslim in america in such great numbers has some truth in it


I think it has something to do with lots of black people not wanting to worship the same holybook and god as "the man"

[Thrawn$]

black people turn muslim cause half of them was in jail and saoudi muslims pay big money for muslim propaganda in jail.

[FluFFYGRidER]

coz islam = riches and virgins

[BackToMine]

The same is said about Christians and the Christian faith by the Islamic extremists (Al-Qaeda, etc.)

So basically you represent the other side in the War against Terrorism.

You, Bush, Evangelical Christians
versus
Al-Qaeda, Bin Laden, Al-Zarqawi, Wahhabi Muslims

And in the middle you have ordinary secular moderate non-violent human beings getting killed.

Hence I view you as a terrorist no different to Bin Laden.

[FluFFYGRidER]

Originally Posted by BackToMine

The same is said about Christians and the Christian faith by the Islamic extremists (Al-Qaeda, etc.)

So basically you represent the other side in the War against Terrorism.

You, Bush, Evangelical Christians
versus
Al-Qaeda, Bin Laden, Al-Zarqawi, Wahhabi Muslims

And in the middle you have ordinary secular moderate non-violent human beings getting killed.

Hence I view you as a terrorist no different to Bin Laden.

right! islam means peace, we never kill any innocent people. only bush!

[Helix]

The Koran on Jews, Christians, and Christianity and Infidels

http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/

[4.91] You will find others who desire that they should be safe from you and secure from their own people; as often as they are sent back to the mischief they get thrown into it headlong; therefore if they do not withdraw from you, and (do not) offer you peace and restrain their hands, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and against these We have given you a clear authority.

The Dinner Table - [5.51] O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q. 2:191), to murder them and treat them harshly (Q. 9:123), slay them (Q. 9: 5), fight with them, (Q. 8: 65 ) even if they are Christians and Jews, humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax (Q. 9: 29). Quran takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and tell clearly that no other religion except Islam is accepted (Q. 3: 85). It relegates those who disbelieve in Quran to hell (Q. 5: 11), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (Q. 9: 28). It orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (Q. 2: 193).

"Fight those who do not profess the true faith [ISLAM], till they pay the jiziya with the hand of humility." - Koran 9: 29

".... I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks [CUT OFF THEIR HEADS], and smite all their finger tips of them [CUT OFF THEIR FINGERS]." - Koran 8: 12

"Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate." - Koran 9: 73

"When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads [CUT OFF THEIR HEADS] and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly." - Koran 47: 4

"The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and his messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom...." - Koran 5: 33-34

" Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued." - Koran 9: 29

"....the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn for ever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures." - Koran 98: 1-8

"Garments of fire have been prepared for the unbelievers. Scalding water shall be poured upon their heads, melting their skins and that which is in their bellies. They shall be lashed rods of iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they try to escape from Hell, back they shall be dragged, and will be told: 'Taste the torment of the Conflagration!'" - Koran 22: 19-22, 23

"And burn ye him in the blazing fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits. This was he that would not believe in allah Most high and would not encourage the feeding of the indignant. So no friend hath he here this day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds. " - Koran 31-37

"In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." - Koran, 8:37

[FluFFYGRidER]

you are wrong. islam is peace, only middle east is peaceful place in the world. go back to school and learn something!

[AkiraSS]

:-) why do I get replies only from fake nicks with 10 posts?