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skillfull 12-25-2004 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BackToMine
Do Unsubscribe Links Stop Spam?

Do Unsubscribe Links Stop Spam?

Spammers, Scammers, Hackers, Pedos = Gas chamber

:xmas-smil :xmas-smil

slashdot is full of antis

i wouldnt trust a source like that

try it and see by yourself

MrJackMeHoff 12-25-2004 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew-at-ENet
No it's not, I know lots of people in the mailing industry that do it

I dont.. Anyone who does that is a complete idiot.

skillfull 12-25-2004 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MrJackMeHoff
I dont.. Anyone who does that is a complete idiot.


you are so right
95% of the people talking about the bulkmailing industry doesnt have a fucking clue about what they are talking, its liek the security industry in worst

brand0n 12-25-2004 08:59 PM

please hit reply with your current email in this formatt

"[email protected]"

thank you.

skillfull 12-25-2004 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n
please hit reply with your current email in this formatt

"[email protected]"

thank you.


you are speaking to who ?

Rochard 12-25-2004 10:05 PM

The difference between junk mail in your mail box and spam in your inbox is that the US Goverment makes money off of it. If the Goverment could make money off of spam it would be prefectly legal.

Think abot all of the fucking trees kill to send junk mail. What a waste.

WarChild 12-25-2004 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf
The actual cost of spam is negligable when you consider the amount of bandwidth bought by the corporations for daily use remain constant with or without spam. Spammers pay for the bandwidth that sends most messages out. Companies and users recieve it on pipes that are already installed, arranged and paid for.

A company that needs a 100mb Cogent pipe is going to buy it anyway. Spam in the email box has very little, or NO, effect on that fixed cost. It's a very colorful way for the antispam contingent to spin spam into a money sucking monster that it's not. So try the, "It costs corporations money" argument again on someone who doesn't know the truth.

Having worked in managment in a large IT department, I can tell you first hand the costs associated with spam are not negligable.

Penthouse Tony 12-26-2004 01:10 AM

Do not snail mail list.

sean416 12-26-2004 01:18 AM

I'd have to say one of the major differences is the quantity. I dont get 1000's of flyers everyday. but I get 1000's of spam email a day.

SleazyDream 12-26-2004 01:25 AM

i can opt in for non addressed mail and I won't get any.

i also don't get 5000 sail mail spams a day.....when is something considered out of controll?

seeric 12-26-2004 01:27 AM

50 mad postal workers



this is one of those offline vegas conversations. i have had this discussion with more people than god knows.

been down this road with the channels that be. nothing will stop usps from doing it. i basically chop it up as technology to market

usps = since before we had cars.
internet = since we had michael jackson. LMAO.

in 20 years spam will be looked at like junkmail because they will finally realize that they can't regulate it.

matter of time.

S P A N N O W 12-26-2004 04:35 AM

Bump :thumbsup

grumpy 12-26-2004 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by juicylinks
Day after day I open my mailbox , i receive alot of "shit" ie: crap such as refinance you home , and shit like that.... Now this is unsolicted shit. But...USPS gets revenue from this. Presorted First class mail rates depending on volumes are 14 cents and lower not the usual 37 cents.

K now lets bring this scenario to the internet. Your emailbox. You get crap day in day out , now people are getting sued arrested and the works...

Now snail mail spam has been going on for ages.

Email spam for a few years.

Do I enjoyed getting 50 emails telling me I cant get hard? Nah not really but what can you do...

So lets discuss the dfference between email and regular direct snail mail marketing they call it... is there one?


Sometimes you blast me away with your simplicity. Please tell me this is not a serious question.

Juicy D. Links 12-26-2004 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by spannow
Bump :thumbsup

:xmas-smil :xmas-smil :xmas-smil

BlackCrayon 12-26-2004 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew-at-ENet
I know lots of people that will host a landing page and not care about heat. The place I colo in even has it in their User Agreement & SLA, that 'spamvertized' websites are MORE than welcome and abuse emails will be delt with by them, as long as the origin IP is on their space.

i don't think that was the point he was getting at, spam emails without removes and ones who spam the same addresses over and over without honoring removes are more likely to have their landing pages DDOS'ed. the more complaints a sponsor gets, the more likely you are to be termed. most sponsors demand that you download their remove list and clean your lists against it before you send.

in todays modern world, it doesn't really cost the end user anything. sure there are some countries in eastern europe that still pay by the meg or minute or whatever but who would mail them anyhow? they are poor.

do you have any idea how much money spam assassin guys have made off spam? not to mention all the other kinds of filters and shit to block spam, its a million dollar industry in itself.

BlackCrayon 12-26-2004 10:51 AM

im not really trying to defend spam but so many are so misinformed.

oh yeah and if you're gonna opt-out, don't expect it to be instantaneous, give it a week or 2 and i bet you will see some of the same emails gone.

and btw, 1 minute edit limit sucks balls.

GonZo 12-26-2004 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by juicylinks
not really , they just hit you harder with a different ad next time. Now they have verified your email address since you put it on the remove list

Sounds like someone has done some mailing before....

Rhino22 12-26-2004 11:19 AM

From a business point of view, the big difference is dirrect mail is good for the goverment, ie the post office benifits from stamps. Spam is only good for the spammers, and hurts the other businesses, ie the ISP's and it's customers


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