New breed of webmasters - GoFuckYourself.com

RogerV · 12-24-2004, 11:03 AM

I call them mastersurfers not webmasters.

The new breed doesn't care if a site converts and makes them money.

the new breed cares if the site looks kewl and doesn't care if it converts.

Do you consider yourself a mastersurfer or webmaster?

XxXotic · 12-24-2004, 11:05 AM

i give a fuck what it looks like as long as i can cash a check at the end of the week

Shoehorn! · 12-24-2004, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by XxXotic

i give a fuck what it looks like as long as i can cash a check at the end of the week

Yeah, as long as it makes money who cares?

Fake Nick · 12-24-2004, 11:06 AM

masterwebsurferbaitor for live

RogerV · 12-24-2004, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by XxXotic

i give a fuck what it looks like as long as i can cash a check at the end of the week

Webmasters what do you think of the new breed of Master Surfers

RogerV · 12-24-2004, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSmutPeddlerDOTcom

Yeah, as long as it makes money who cares?

So would you promote a site that looked like shit but converted 1/20 or a site that looked hot that converted 1/200

AdultNex · 12-24-2004, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerV

I call them mastersurfers not webmasters.

The new breed doesn't care if a site converts and makes them money.

the new breed cares if the site looks kewl and doesn't care if it converts.

Do you consider yourself a mastersurfer or webmaster?

IMO, the reason for this is in the new age of the Internet, there are so many tools that automate otherwise mundane processes.

As a result, laziness kicks in.

ytcracker · 12-24-2004, 11:11 AM

i wish i could still mail without fear

AdultNex · 12-24-2004, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ytcracker

i wish i could still mail without fear

Oh... But you can. :food-smil

seeric · 12-24-2004, 11:15 AM

i'm starting to go door to door selling VOD.

i am jehovahs witness of VOD and porno.

today outta be a good day, lots of people will be home.

NickPapageorgio · 12-24-2004, 11:16 AM

I think a site looking nice may add a bit of trust between the webmaster and the program just due to the fact that if it looks nice, it conveys a sense that the program owner cared enough to pay for a nice design, so in a webmasters head, that must mean that the program makes money and that the owner doesn't mind spending it. I think content is the main key in conversions anyway. My top converter doesn't look as good as some others but it offers a very unique set of content that subscribes to a very specific genre. It's converted @ no more than 1:60 in the last 8 months for me and I am doing nothing special. Submitting to TGPs and running a couple banners is all. Whereas I have promoted some of the flashier places in the same way for the same amount of time and haven't got a single sale to this day from them.

RogerV · 12-24-2004, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultNex

IMO, the reason for this is in the new age of the Internet, there are so many tools that automate otherwise mundane processes.

As a result, laziness kicks in.

Very true HMMM plus sponsors give you almst everything you need for free and paved the way for the master surfer

RogerV · 12-24-2004, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ytcracker

i wish i could still mail without fear

the good old days

until double opt-in didn't mean much anymore

RogerV · 12-24-2004, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K

i'm starting to go door to door selling VOD.

i am jehovahs witness of VOD and porno.

today outta be a good day, lots of people will be home.

OLd school

Your one of the OG

killshot · 12-24-2004, 11:21 AM

I would say I am a webmaster.. i certainly care if my sites convert because i spend a shitload of money producing all my content..

RogerV · 12-24-2004, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

I think a site looking nice may add a bit of trust between the webmaster and the program just due to the fact that if it looks nice, it conveys a sense that the program owner cared enough to pay for a nice design, so in a webmasters head, that must mean that the program makes money and that the owner doesn't mind spending it. I think content is the main key in conversions anyway. My top converter doesn't look as good as some others but it offers a very unique set of content that subscribes to a very specific genre. It's converted @ no more than 1:60 in the last 8 months for me and I am doing nothing special. Submitting to TGPs and running a couple banners is all. Whereas I have promoted some of the flashier places in the same way for the same amount of time and haven't got a single sale to this day from them.

this is exactly what I mean. we have it All but our best converting site looks like shit I really don't get it.

PerfectionGirls · 12-24-2004, 11:22 AM

I do agree that the "mastersurfers" only look for the "latest & greatest" things to push, even if the latest and greatest aint shit. They really dont have any idea on what will convert or how to convert it when they start promoting it. The "mastersurfers" main concern is to make their site look pretty then trash the program when the "new, hottest thing to hit the industry" dosent convert for them. In nearly every case its their own fault, but try telling them that. Remember, they are 18 years old, they know everything. hehe

These mastersurfers can be turned into real webmasters, but most build sites, blow through traffic and BW then bitch when they arnt making any money.

Not slamming the new guys at all. They have to start somewhere. I just wish they would ask questions and try to learn before they embark on a new business. They would find that many of us program owners very willing to help. Its in our best interest to seek out the serious mastersurfers and help them achive there dream of becoming webmasters.

NaughtyRob · 12-24-2004, 11:24 AM

I just think a lot of surfers are turning into webmasters and don't know what to do or realize that it can be a full time job.

sumphatpimp · 12-24-2004, 11:25 AM

so, have you ever jerked off to a design?

bigdog · 12-24-2004, 11:25 AM

you got to impress the webmaster first these days before you impress the surfer.A lot of the shitty looking sites don't convert well on tgp traffic, they might do great on SE and mailers but not great on tgp traffic for me at least.

PerfectionGirls · 12-24-2004, 11:25 AM

We give them so many tools now that anyone can be a webmaster. Its the curse of the fhg I guess. Maybe we brought this on ourselfs? hehe

RogerV · 12-24-2004, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ContentProducer

I just think a lot of surfers are turning into webmasters and don't know what to do or realize that it can be a full time job.

Maybe I created a new discription LOL

MasterSurfers

NickPapageorgio · 12-24-2004, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sumphatpimp

so, have you ever jerked off to a design?

Yes

RogerV · 12-24-2004, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PerfectionGirls

We give them so many tools now that anyone can be a webmaster. Its the curse of the fhg I guess. Maybe we brought this on ourselfs? hehe

the reason I built turnkey TGP was for the mastersurfer

pornkings was built to convert all traffic

12-24-2004, 11:29 AM

Metro-Surf Master

Fatalspeed · 12-24-2004, 11:31 AM

If it converts im happy

RogerV · 12-24-2004, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdog

you got to impress the webmaster first these days before you impress the surfer.A lot of the shitty looking sites don't convert well on tgp traffic, they might do great on SE and mailers but not great on tgp traffic for me at least.

I have to agree we have taken a new positon and started building and redesigning to apeal to the webmasters and not on what converts.

If I had more time I could explain since I've been looking at numbers for many years now.

crockett · 12-24-2004, 11:34 AM

whY IS there no selection for masturbater?

XxXotic · 12-24-2004, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerV

Webmasters what do you think of the new breed of Master Surfers

to be honest i dont pay much, if any attention at all to most people in this biz. Only people i pay any attention to at all are people I do biz with and I only do biz with programs that convert at a certain level. I say let the surfmasters push the pretty sites with all the bells and whistles that don't convert, it means they won't be pushin the sites I do and that = more sales for me

WiredGuy · 12-24-2004, 11:39 AM

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Do you consider yourself a mastersurfer or webmaster?

How about a masturbator?
WG

NickPapageorgio · 12-24-2004, 11:41 AM

Not to mention that Newbreed's B.oar.dtracker probably went nuts just now lol. :D

Workshop_Willy · 12-24-2004, 11:50 AM

Face it, customers are basically pigs. I hate to have to say that, but it's true. Only one site did I ever make that converted well AND looked good. I changed it many times over the years, and came to the conclusion that it was the unique content that was converting, and the easy layout rather than the slick graphics.

I remember once when I was in the Army, a Staff Sergeant told me he didn't like Playboy because the crotches were shaded in. He like Penthouse. Most people agreed with him.

Now that was when you had to actually go out an buy a magazine that was costly to produce to get your porn.

Now we have dark rooms at night with drunk customers who didn't get any and want a cheap, easy thrill.

It makes perfect sense. I think that as time goes on we'll see more stratification in the market, you'll have your connosieurs who want vanity sites with slick production, and you'll have your bottom feeders and everything in between.

Bottom line? Make it easy to surf, make it very clear that they'll get to see pussy and whatever else it is you're selling them, and you're in. We run a mass peep-show. Only we don't have to hire people to mop out the booths with disinfectant.

uno · 12-24-2004, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerV

the reason I built turnkey TGP was for the mastersurfer

pornkings was built to convert all traffic
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Built for real webmasters so get with the program!

I thought this was funny.

Pornkings · 12-24-2004, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

How about a masturbator?
WG

Because we are all Masturbators

Pornkings · 12-24-2004, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by XxXotic

to be honest i dont pay much, if any attention at all to most people in this biz. Only people i pay any attention to at all are people I do biz with and I only do biz with programs that convert at a certain level. I say let the surfmasters push the pretty sites with all the bells and whistles that don't convert, it means they won't be pushin the sites I do and that = more sales for me

Thats because you know what converts from experience. your a webmaster not a mastersurfer who thinks he knows what converts.

Pornkings · 12-24-2004, 02:16 PM

Shit I have over 6k post with my handle's RogerV and Pornkings

I'm not a newbie anymore

Fake Nick · 12-24-2004, 02:19 PM

I have a better question for yall!!

is there one perons in this thread, or even on this board that dit NOT start out his interweb career as a surfer ? ? ? ?

Pornkings · 12-24-2004, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fake Nick

I have a better question for yall!!

is there one perons in this thread, or even on this board that dit NOT start out his interweb career as a surfer ? ? ? ?

I didn't. I started before I knew what a surfer was. LOL

bizmak · 12-24-2004, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

i'm starting to go door to door selling VOD.

i am jehovahs witness of VOD and porno.

today outta be a good day, lots of people will be home.

lmao

sherie · 12-24-2004, 02:50 PM

Master of the web!

Dalai lama · 12-24-2004, 02:52 PM

aslong i get my paycheck.

iBanker · 12-24-2004, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

i'm starting to go door to door selling VOD.

i am jehovahs witness of VOD and porno.

today outta be a good day, lots of people will be home.

That is some funny stuff there

Pornkings · 12-24-2004, 10:39 PM

Drop it like its hot :love-smil

Vitasoy · 12-24-2004, 10:51 PM

The choice is clear on this one

booker · 12-24-2004, 10:57 PM

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Newton - XXXAmigoz · 12-24-2004, 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

i'm starting to go door to door selling VOD.

i am jehovahs witness of VOD and porno.

today outta be a good day, lots of people will be home.

Jesus told me you wanted godvod.com

newbreed · 12-24-2004, 11:42 PM

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12-24-2004, 11:03 AM	#1
RogerV Banned! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,591	New breed of webmasters I call them mastersurfers not webmasters. The new breed doesn't care if a site converts and makes them money. the new breed cares if the site looks kewl and doesn't care if it converts. Do you consider yourself a mastersurfer or webmaster?

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12-24-2004, 11:16 AM	#11
NickPapageorgio Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NC Posts: 8,323	I think a site looking nice may add a bit of trust between the webmaster and the program just due to the fact that if it looks nice, it conveys a sense that the program owner cared enough to pay for a nice design, so in a webmasters head, that must mean that the program makes money and that the owner doesn't mind spending it. I think content is the main key in conversions anyway. My top converter doesn't look as good as some others but it offers a very unique set of content that subscribes to a very specific genre. It's converted @ no more than 1:60 in the last 8 months for me and I am doing nothing special. Submitting to TGPs and running a couple banners is all. Whereas I have promoted some of the flashier places in the same way for the same amount of time and haven't got a single sale to this day from them. __________________

12-24-2004, 11:06 AM	#4
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12-24-2004, 11:15 AM	#10
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12-24-2004, 11:21 AM	#15
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12-24-2004, 11:22 AM	#17
PerfectionGirls Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MI Posts: 4,484	I do agree that the "mastersurfers" only look for the "latest & greatest" things to push, even if the latest and greatest aint shit. They really dont have any idea on what will convert or how to convert it when they start promoting it. The "mastersurfers" main concern is to make their site look pretty then trash the program when the "new, hottest thing to hit the industry" dosent convert for them. In nearly every case its their own fault, but try telling them that. Remember, they are 18 years old, they know everything. hehe These mastersurfers can be turned into real webmasters, but most build sites, blow through traffic and BW then bitch when they arnt making any money. Not slamming the new guys at all. They have to start somewhere. I just wish they would ask questions and try to learn before they embark on a new business. They would find that many of us program owners very willing to help. Its in our best interest to seek out the serious mastersurfers and help them achive there dream of becoming webmasters. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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12-24-2004, 11:25 AM	#19
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12-24-2004, 11:29 AM	#25
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