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Platinum Doug 12-23-2004 08:53 PM

50!! Never done that before!! Feels good!!


"Elite" is different than "empire" though! ;)

Illicit 12-23-2004 08:58 PM

Thats fucked up... Unban Choker ! :glugglug

Entropy 12-23-2004 09:04 PM

When you look at the online adult business as a whole, Sleazy is merely a blip on the radar...he doesn't have the tools that it takes to truly pull away from the pack, and he never will...The sky is the limit with Choker...

Think of Sleazy as the webmaster version of Gary Coleman...A lifetime B Lister...

Platinum Doug 12-23-2004 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Entropy
When you look at the online adult business as a whole, Sleazy is merely a blip on the radar...he doesn't have the tools that it takes to truly pull away from the pack, and he never will...The sky is the limit with Choker...

Think of Sleazy as the webmaster version of Gary Coleman...A lifetime B Lister...


See, I don't know. People who have reached a decent level of success fall into two categories: people who are smart enough to make it and are ready to kick back OR those that have made it and only want to make more.

I wish I knew more about Sleazy. My thought is he has more on the go at any given time. If you have the interest and drive to succeed at one idea, you probably have the ability and motivation to try more -- don't you think?

BRISK 12-23-2004 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf
I didn't know there was drama!

When isn't there drama?

Entropy 12-23-2004 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Doug
See, I don't know. People who have reached a decent level of success fall into two categories: people who are smart enough to make it and are ready to kick back OR those that have made it and only want to make more.

I wish I knew more about Sleazy. My thought is he has more on the go at any given time. If you have the interest and drive to succeed at one idea, you probably have the ability and motivation to try more -- don't you think?

I see your point, but I just think that there are a ton of people who have been in the biz the same amount of time as Sleazy, that have become much more successful. He has excelled with his TGP but nothing more. The people in this business who have truly reached "elite" status are those who are innovative. Those who have created a new arena for the business or raised the standard of an already existent one. I do not see Sleazy as having done either.

There is no doubt that he is successful. However, there are many levels of success. His lack of "people skills" has leveled him out and will continue to do so. With every person he insults, he reduces his professional options. Thus, stunting the growth of his business.

jonesy 12-23-2004 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Doug
I don't think you have to be number one to be a success. This is a game like horse shoes. Close counts! ;)

business aint horshshoes guy and if you look at it like that your business will fail.

either you make money or you dont.

sean416 12-23-2004 10:15 PM

That was a great article. Excuse my ignorant opinion here, but doesnt AaronM have that same arrogant attitude, I've never seen anyone get on his case about the way he conducts himself?

I don't condone what Sleazy has done, but I also don't condone this mob mentality on GFY where because someone is being attacked, everyone feels its fair game to take a shot at them as well. Don't kick a man while he's down. There's nothing wrong with showing your support for Choker, but there's limits to before it becomes 'Sleazy' bashing.

Entropy 12-23-2004 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sean416
That was a great article. Excuse my ignorant opinion here, but doesnt AaronM have that same arrogant attitude, I've never seen anyone get on his case about the way he conducts himself?

I don't condone what Sleazy has done, but I also don't condone this mob mentality on GFY where because someone is being attacked, everyone feels its fair game to take a shot at them as well. Don't kick a man while he's down. There's nothing wrong with showing your support for Choker, but there's limits to before it becomes 'Sleazy' bashing.

I think alot of people have had alot of repressed hostility for sleazy for awhile now. And AaronM is nowhere near as bad as him. He actually has redeeming qualities. Sleazy has none. IMHO, he deserves any and everything he gets.

Platinum Doug 12-23-2004 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jonesy
business aint horshshoes guy and if you look at it like that your business will fail.

either you make money or you dont.


lol - I see your point. BUT, in this case, we're not comparing someone who is just starting out to someone who makes a living doing this. I don't know that Sleazy is working a second job. He makes money. You can't argue that ? or can you?? ;)

Huggles 12-23-2004 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Entropy
I think alot of people have had alot of repressed hostility for sleazy for awhile now. And AaronM is nowhere near as bad as him. He actually has redeeming qualities. Sleazy has none. IMHO, he deserves any and everything he gets.



Has Sleazy done anything to help anyone on this forum? :P I mean, not without getting paid in some form.

SomeCreep 12-24-2004 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Entropy
I see your point, but I just think that there are a ton of people who have been in the biz the same amount of time as Sleazy, that have become much more successful. He has excelled with his TGP but nothing more.

Sleazy has excelled in much more than just his TGP. He very rarely talks about his other sites/projects on this board.

Corleone 12-24-2004 12:42 AM

great interview :)

NoCarrier 12-24-2004 01:16 AM

Excellent interview! :xmas-smil

webgurl 12-24-2004 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggles
Has Sleazy done anything to help anyone on this forum? :P I mean, not without getting paid in some form.

I can answer a true YES !

SleazyDream 12-24-2004 01:24 AM

Been thinking about my comment to choker regarding his daughter in the video he posted to GFY and I'm starting to realize it was excessivly rude. It was not a pedofile comment though. I honestly believe Choker is a good Dad and loves his kids and as such will go overboard in protection mode when something involves them. I should have realized this and toned down my comment. I made a mistake.

I apoligise if I offended you Choker and retract the comment. You have a right as a Good father to go overboard to a degree to protect your kids. I personally don't think that excuses the pedo comments you made about me, or the stupidity of posting video of your 12 year old daughter on an adult pornographic webmaster board, but I understand that ANY good father will sometimes get blinded when an issue concerns their children and I can overlook and forgive you for that as I realize and understand your agrivation on that comment.

I don't make the banning decision, but if I did I would choose to unban you now, as I think you've had a reasonable cool off period now.

merry x-mas.

Platinum Doug 12-24-2004 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream
Been thinking about my comment to choker regarding his daughter in the video he posted to GFY and I'm starting to realize it was excessivly rude. It was not a pedofile comment though. I honestly believe Choker is a good Dad and loves his kids and as such will go overboard in protection mode when something involves them. I should have realized this and toned down my comment. I made a mistake.

It IS Christmas, after all . . . :) HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYONE!

MrJackMeHoff 12-24-2004 04:13 AM

That site needs to hire a proofreader..

SleazyDream 12-24-2004 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Doug
I'd love to have a bit of Sleazys time. He's built an empire himself and there's lots to learn from him as well. Another thing I need to do in Vegas . . . Damn! No rest for the wicked, I think is what they say??

i'm always game for an interview

SleazyDream 12-24-2004 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by WarChild
I understand what you're saying. I mean it's all speculation as to how well he's doing. I'm sure it's by all standards pretty good. That's the shame of it all. Sleazy obviously does know quite a bit about this business. He is successful and would probably be a great source of knowledge if he was so inclined. It's somewhat tarnished by the very elite attitude he attempts to pull off here. Think about Rick Latona, Lensman, Paolo, Quiet, The Hun, etc ... These are some pretty successful people. It's also pretty rare that you'd find one of them randomly calling people they know nothing about idiots. I would consider them to be "elite" because of what they've accomplished, how they've accomplished it and how they conduct themselves not because they've forced down my throat how great they are.

idiot :Kissmy

booker 12-24-2004 04:18 PM

It's all good.

TheSwed 12-24-2004 04:21 PM

:xmas-smil

CET 12-24-2004 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Platinum Doug
50!! Never done that before!! Feels good!!


"Elite" is different than "empire" though! ;)

I hate to tell you this, but there is a number 51 next to your post. Doh!

Pornopat 12-24-2004 05:31 PM

Nice article. Some learning points in it.

sweetcuties 12-24-2004 06:35 PM

Nice article... I've always been a fan of choker and his vision. I even bought traffic from him awhile back

Happy Holidays

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-24-2004 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sweetcuties
Nice article... I've always been a fan of choker and his vision. I even bought traffic from him awhile back

Happy Holidays


I will be going to Choker when the time is right for traffic:)


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