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Napolean 12-23-2004 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by StuBradley
Some affiliates just come right out and say they're assholes! Here is a direct quote from AbbyWinters webmaster page:

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"...While we're interested in growing our site, we're not going to do the things many affiliates demand. We'd love to have you on board, but our site is doing just fine without you.

Here's what we offer to you as an affiliate:
50% on initial subscription
No rebills
It's that simple. This might be your cue to say "pffft! no fucking way, dude!", and that's fine - our program is not for you."


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Nice way to treat the people who make you money, dipfuck! :thumbsup


:thumbsup

whats up stu, nice to see you around :)

StuBradley 12-23-2004 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Napolean
:thumbsup

whats up stu, nice to see you around :)

Thanks...I usually just lurk around here but every now and then I post somethin'. So how you been?

Methodcash Rick 12-23-2004 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkJedi
I don't think Oliver would do it on purpose.

He probably didn't fix it when CCbill had switched to the new stats. (there was a glitch)


This SAME subject was covered on one of the Asian webmaster boards, and he stated that it was a glitch, and that he fixed it..

He said all this, over a month ago, so if its' still the same, either he didn't fix it, or ..........

kmanrox 12-23-2004 11:21 AM

Anyone who thinks Oliver would do this intentionally should pull his links for being oblivious anyway. Oliver is one of the VERY FEW honest guys in this biz. He's been around for ages and has some of the highest converting sites around. People like Minte and Freeones have been using him for MANY years for good reason.

Oliver becomes personal friends with many of his affiliates, how many sponsors can say that?

Don't you think if Oliver was going to fuck his webmasters he'd be smart enough to implement a transparent Shave-O-Meter like 98% of the other affiliate programs out there utilize? Would it not be the stupidest thing ever to just go set people's payouts to 1% so they could see it? That's not very discreet, now is it?

GFY should have a Brain-Scanner to check your IQ before allowing you to post to curb slanderous statements like this.

Napolean 12-23-2004 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by StuBradley
Thanks...I usually just lurk around here but every now and then I post somethin'. So how you been?

doin good, no longer a slave to the pizza delivery biz.. it rocks :)

boneprone 12-23-2004 11:41 AM

I can assure you Glyn (Oliver) would not do this intentionally..

He's already contacted and fixed the problem with webmasters sending regular sales since day 1.

If you are set to that setting, contact em and he'll make it up.

No way Oliver has done this intentionally. He's one of the good guys.

Ill vouch for him anyday of the week, he's a friend, and he's family.

BP4L

boneprone 12-23-2004 11:44 AM

Why would anyone intentionally have this setting anyway when they know these settings are displayed freely to the webmaster?

Makes no sense.

Pretty obvious its a mistake.

If you have this setting, just hit em up..

Its not like this setting is hidden. Its displayed right there in your stats.

sickkittens 12-23-2004 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by media
It's "Olivers Money" not YOURS! :1orglaugh



:1orglaugh

boneprone 12-23-2004 11:48 AM

For anyone still getting a 1% rate, this would be a good time to join the Boneprone family.. We are a labor union of sorts and will represent you to our best..

By joining the BP4L today, we will fight for you the webmaster, and will be able to get you at least a 4% payout..

We all here at the BP4L know its difficult to make a living at 1% and upon joining us can give you a 400% increase in income.

Join now and become BP4L.

Let us fight for your rights.

sickkittens 12-23-2004 11:49 AM

Everything is fine on my end by the way.

nofx 12-23-2004 11:51 AM

50 ?'s
..........

JMM 12-23-2004 11:53 AM

Oliver is 100000% honest.

It was obviously a glitch.

I am 100000000% certain that Oliver will make sure that every single person gets every single penny they have coming to them.

tradermcduck 12-23-2004 11:58 AM

I have noticed this payout percentage drop 2 weeks ago, checked http://www.oliversmoney.com/ where it says...

'11/22/04 We have noticed some problems with changes to the payout percentage on some webmasters accounts. If you notice any change please contact us right away. It's an easy fix and you will not lose any commisions on sales.'

I emailed Glyn, this what he wrote...

Should be fixed now please log in and check your stats just to be sure. Sorry about the problem we are still trying to figure out exactly what happened. If you have lost any money from sales while your were at 1% please let me
know so that you can be credited. Let me know if you need anything special to help promote Oliver's Girls.com we love to help. And thank you for being an Oliver's Money webmaster.'

So to me it is clear Glyn had no intention to change the payout from 60% to 1%.

Ludedude 12-23-2004 12:01 PM

These things don't happen on their own and a simple mass email to all his affiliates would have solved it if it did.

Shame on you Glyn.

Oliver Klozov 12-23-2004 12:30 PM

Anyone can be a Monday morning quarterback!



Still waiting to hear from any webmaster that lost any sales.

Full payment plus 50%

infoAToliversmoney.com

Ludedude 12-23-2004 12:32 PM

For the record, Glyn will take care of the problem if you contact him.

Kimmykim 12-23-2004 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ludedude
These things don't happen on their own and a simple mass email to all his affiliates would have solved it if it did.

Shame on you Glyn.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ludedude
For the record, Glyn will take care of the problem if you contact him.

Um, I'm not sure what that all means, but I can tell you right now there's not a snowball's chance in hell that Oliver would try to steal from anyone. I've known him for years and he's one of the most honest guys in this business.

In case you don't know, he runs a VERY successful mainstream studio business including some very brand recognizable ad campaigns he shoots for, and adult is NOT his first priority here.

Putting up a notice the first week of November in his affiliate area letting people know there were potential problems was a completely aboveboard thing to do. I can't say as I blame him for not mass emailing all his affiliates, then there'd have been at least ten people on here raising the gallows on him for spamming his affiliates and getting the noose ready.

slapass 12-23-2004 12:57 PM

BS no one would have bitched for mailing the affiliates. Putting a message int he members area is teh minimum he could do. I doubt any of this was on purpose but he did not go out of his way to resolve it.

Oliver Klozov 12-23-2004 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by slapass
......I doubt any of this was on purpose but he did not go out of his way to resolve it.

Go out of my way to resolve what?

At the time there was only a hand full of webmasters with a problem. That's less than 12 out of 10,000 plus webmasters. If I emailed every webmaster every time someone has a problem...... well you get the picture.

Even after all this no one has yet contacted me about any lost sales. I'm not saying this doesn't suck it does but this did not effect everyone.

And most of all no one is going to lose any money owed to them.

Ludedude 12-23-2004 01:36 PM

I know much more than you give me credit for, let's leave it at that.

I like Glyn personally but from a business standpoint your argument holds no water. Emailing his affiliates would have been the proper thing to do. All of them. That's all I was saying. If you feel there's a deeper meaning there, then all I can say is nope, all I was doing was commenting on the immediate situation.

No one that I know of has ever called out a sponsor for informing them of a potential issue via email.

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Originally Posted by Kimmykim
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In case you don't know, he runs a VERY successful mainstream studio business including some very brand recognizable ad campaigns he shoots for, and adult is NOT his first priority here.

Putting up a notice the first week of November in his affiliate area letting people know there were potential problems was a completely aboveboard thing to do. I can't say as I blame him for not mass emailing all his affiliates, then there'd have been at least ten people on here raising the gallows on him for spamming his affiliates and getting the noose ready.


StuBradley 12-23-2004 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver Klozov
Nobody is trying to screw you!!

This has been posted on Olivers Money front page since November 22, 2004

***11/22/04 We have noticed some problems with changes to the payout percentage on some webmasters accounts. If you notice any change please contact us right away. It's an easy fix and you will not lose any commisions on sales.***

To date I have only received 11 emails with this problem. And none of those had any lossed sales.

Rowand, I got your email this morning at 9am you sent it to me last night at 7:20 pm, sorry I don't work 24hrs a day. From what I can see you have made no sales in the last 2 months, do you see anything different?

If you or anyone has lossed any sales contact me and I will make good plus a bonus of 50%.

Any webmaster with sales made while set to 1% needs to contact me right away.

infoAToliversmoney.com

That is a bunch of B.S. Anyone who runs a CCBill Affiliate program knows that your affiliates are in 'groups' and you can change the percentages/payouts of the ENTIRE group with one click. Oliver's program may have been mistakenly set to 1%, but it seems that his mentalilty is "If the affiliate doesn't happen to notice it, oh well...more money for me." That is just bad business

boneprone 12-23-2004 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmykim
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Um, I'm not sure what that all means, but I can tell you right now there's not a snowball's chance in hell that Oliver would try to steal from anyone. I've known him for years and he's one of the most honest guys in this business.

In case you don't know, he runs a VERY successful mainstream studio business including some very brand recognizable ad campaigns he shoots for, and adult is NOT his first priority here.

Putting up a notice the first week of November in his affiliate area letting people know there were potential problems was a completely aboveboard thing to do. I can't say as I blame him for not mass emailing all his affiliates, then there'd have been at least ten people on here raising the gallows on him for spamming his affiliates and getting the noose ready.

Always well spoken.

Oliver Klozov 12-23-2004 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuBradley
That is a bunch of B.S. Anyone who runs a CCBill Affiliate program knows that your affiliates are in 'groups' and you can change the percentages/payouts of the ENTIRE group with one click. Oliver's program may have been mistakenly set to 1%, but it seems that his mentalilty is "If the affiliate doesn't happen to notice it, oh well...more money for me." That is just bad business


Ok smart ass go ahead and change anyone of your affiliates to a new group. Then go back and see if they really got changed. You will find they did not get switched! Go ahead and try it. CCBILL has a problem and they are working on it. I called them to find a work around but if you just simply "assign" an affiliate to a new group it does not work.

We only found a few affiliate that had this problem and none of them has lost any sales what so ever.

If I have missed anyone contact me and I will make good plus 50%

Are you an affiliate of Olivers Money? Did your payout get set to 1% did you lose any sales?

Seems like your just trying to get you sig in on this thread.

:censored

Shoplifter 12-23-2004 02:30 PM

Just checked it here and it was set properly.

DeanCapture 12-23-2004 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ludedude
I know much more than you give me credit for, let's leave it at that.

:thumbsup


Whud up my boy? Happy Holidays to ya' mutha'fuck'n azz :rasta

Pornwolf 12-23-2004 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza
If you guys didn't noticed it before you probably weren't promoting them anyway...

You got a point there.

CCBill - Bill 12-23-2004 05:21 PM

To Whom It May Concern:



The problem that many of you may have experienced within the CCBill Affiliate Program is explained below.

The Group Affiliates system is a trickle down system in nature. To further clarify settings applied to a group will also be applied to individual affiliates related to that group. Because in some situations group payouts were not updated affiliates were still receiving their original or prior payout settings after being added to a group.

If Affiliate Group settings are not updated after adding a new Affiliate to a group the group settings will not be applied. In order to apply group settings to an individual affiliate the group must be updated. The CCBill, LLC Client Help System explains in detail how to do this.

For additional information please feel free to contact the CCBill, LLC Client Support Department.

PerfectionGirls 12-23-2004 05:52 PM

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Ok smart ass go ahead and change anyone of your affiliates to a new group. Then go back and see if they really got changed. You will find they did not get switched! Go ahead and try it. CCBILL has a problem and they are working on it. I called them to find a work around but if you just simply "assign" an affiliate to a new group it does not work.
Thank you so very much! Im sorry you had to go through this today, but I am thrilled that there is now an understanding on the grouping issue and the rebill issue we had last year finally has another firm and explained confirmation.

:thumbsup

Ludedude 12-23-2004 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DeanCapture
:thumbsup


Whud up my boy? Happy Holidays to ya' mutha'fuck'n azz :rasta

Heya Dean...happy holidayz to you too
:xmas-smil

Slick 12-25-2004 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte
I've done business with Glynn since he started online..and know him personally.He runs a tight,honest program.I wish every program I ever worked with since 1998 was as good as his.

I agree with Minte, I've also known Glyn for a few years now and used to keep in close contact, he helped me out a lot in the past and I just couldn't see him intentionally doing that.

Like others say, he did post it on his website, so he had nothing to hide.


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