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|  12-23-2004, 06:17 AM | #1 | 
| Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 
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				Serious problems with PibCash.com!
			 We were sending cross sales from Uni-Cash.com / Cashv2.com to PibCash.com for the last 9-10 months. I couldn't think that these guys can rip you off, so I wasn't really paying attention to the wires that I was receiving from them. Three months ago I decided to take a look at my bank history and found out that there were no wires from them since May. Right now rconn owes us around 30k. I kept contacting him since september trying to get the information about the wires (copy of the bank receipts or just the information from what bank it was sent). Called him couple of times but he didn't pickup and had a voice mail the second time. I was told by sixpack that an e-mail with all necessary info was sent to me but I didn't receive it (though I don't have any spam filter on my e-mail). My request to forward me this e-mail once more didn't have any effect. The first wire from them was also problematic (it got lost) but after a short dispute I received the bank name and the sum of the wire and was able to find it. All the wires starting from May couldn't be found by my bank and now it looks like I'm ignored by rconn and sixpack. This is ridiculous... I want some explanations from them. And your comments... Thanks 
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|  12-23-2004, 06:19 AM | #2 | 
| jellyfish     Join Date: Dec 2003 
					Posts: 71,528
				 | If only the search option worked   I doubt you will see that money dude | 
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|  12-23-2004, 06:20 AM | #3 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea 
					Posts: 6,493
				 | Is this a joke or did you sleep through the last year? If only the GFY search worked. Please, someone must have it bookmarked; link the PIBCash drama. SpaceAce | 
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|  12-23-2004, 06:20 AM | #4 | 
| Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box 
					Posts: 29,903
				 | Uhm....  guess you should have asked a little sooner huh??  pibcash is probably the most well known scamming sponsor program to date, having been caught with screenshots, admin access openings and much more showing that they were shaving folks upwards of over 50%. Everyone on this board knows it and has known it for quite some time. I can't believe there was still someone sending them traffic! | 
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|  12-23-2004, 06:20 AM | #5 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Jul 2001 
					Posts: 59,204
				 | Uh no way, pibcash are scammers? Under which rock were you hiding? | 
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|  12-23-2004, 06:22 AM | #6 | 
| sex is good Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Carman, MB Canada 
					Posts: 24,939
				 | bummers, kiss your money bye bye   | 
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|  12-23-2004, 06:22 AM | #7 | 
| H.B.I.C. Industry Role:  Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NC 
					Posts: 30,122
				 | I thought everyone knew what they were like. | 
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|  12-23-2004, 06:25 AM | #8 | 
| Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box 
					Posts: 29,903
				 | If you like pib, you should also try promoting www.shavebucks.com too.   | 
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|  12-23-2004, 06:25 AM | #9 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada 
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|  12-23-2004, 06:41 AM | #10 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 
					Posts: 6,964
				 | i wonder if there are webmasters still sending joins to pibcash | 
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|  12-23-2004, 06:45 AM | #11 | |
| jellyfish     Join Date: Dec 2003 
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|  12-23-2004, 06:49 AM | #12 | |
| No Refunds Issued. Industry Role:  Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY 
					Posts: 28,300
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 Take some business management classes. | |
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|  12-23-2004, 06:49 AM | #13 | |
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 
					Posts: 40,377
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|  12-23-2004, 06:50 AM | #14 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 
					Posts: 40,377
				 | BTW why are thery still active? Noone sued them? I'd guess they'd have to shut down. 
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|  12-23-2004, 06:52 AM | #15 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 
					Posts: 40,377
				 | Maybe we can do a test - someone contacts them and says them he likes their sites and can send them 30 joins daily, and asks if he can get increased payouts.... I wonder if and what they will reply.     
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|  12-23-2004, 06:56 AM | #16 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sweden. 
					Posts: 3,483
				 | This must be a joke    | 
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|  12-23-2004, 06:56 AM | #17 | 
| God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil 
					Posts: 10,601
				 | And if they were tracking the cross sales, probably they own you something like 100k. | 
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|  12-23-2004, 07:12 AM | #18 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: FL - TN/NC 
					Posts: 5,211
				 | Wost scamers arround. Shame on you for not noticing sooner ypu were not getting paid. Time to rethink your book keeping practices  | 
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|  12-23-2004, 07:17 AM | #20 | 
| Confirmed Moneymaker Industry Role:  Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Eugene, OR It's Like Jail, Only with Trees! 
					Posts: 9,852
				 | You let your cross sales slide for 3 months? What the hell kind of accounting do you offer? Jesus.... I wonder if anyone is cheeting you and you've "let it slide" like this with them.. You gotta be all up on stats all the time.. a good accountant is a must! 
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|  12-23-2004, 07:26 AM | #22 | 
| Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 
					Posts: 93
				 | Fuck them... Unlickily I don't read boards that much. Guess I should start to.   Well, I contacted epoch just to make sure they are closed. Can someone advise me a good program to send x-sales to? (except shavebucks.com  ) 
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|  12-23-2004, 07:27 AM | #23 | |
| Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 
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|  12-23-2004, 07:27 AM | #24 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Jan 2002 
					Posts: 7,981
				 | That one hilarious Christmas joke   If it's not a joke... then it's still god damned funny how someone could've missed PiB Gate  | 
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|  12-23-2004, 07:32 AM | #25 | |
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Jan 2002 
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|  12-23-2004, 07:35 AM | #26 | 
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Jan 2002 
					Posts: 7,981
				 | It looks like they are still getting traffic... http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...bcash.com/#top | 
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|  12-23-2004, 07:41 AM | #27 | 
| Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 
					Posts: 93
				 | PibCash.com is out. BTW http://legacycash.com/ is also their program. So note that this is scam too... So what about x-sales? Anyone wants them? 
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|  12-23-2004, 07:46 AM | #28 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Jan 2001 
					Posts: 51,692
				 | Holy fuck ... you guys are waaaaaaaaay late | 
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|  12-23-2004, 07:59 AM | #29 | |
| God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil 
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|  12-23-2004, 08:09 AM | #30 | 
| ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! 
					Posts: 57,559
				 | You've got to be kidding me..... But how many x-sales can you send a day, I'm interested. 
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|  12-23-2004, 08:14 AM | #31 | |
| GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com 
					Posts: 9,846
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 Where are your cross sells going now? Go to realitycash and you can be setup to send your cross sells to teenhitchhikers in 5 minutes or less.  | |
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|  12-23-2004, 08:17 AM | #32 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY 
					Posts: 35,218
				 | Wow feels like i'm in a timewarp hope you can find a good sponsor for your x-sales... | 
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|  12-23-2004, 08:34 AM | #33 | |
| GFY Chaperone Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Adult.com 
					Posts: 9,846
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 Not really | |
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|  12-23-2004, 08:36 AM | #34 | |
| Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box 
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|  12-23-2004, 08:45 AM | #35 | 
| Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role:  Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies 
					Posts: 12,860
				 | Everyone and their dog got ripped by them. Sorry to hear you got nailed by them too. | 
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|  12-23-2004, 09:07 AM | #36 | |
| Confirmed User Industry Role:  Join Date: Jan 2002 
					Posts: 7,981
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 1 wk. Avg. 3.5 Which is 5-10k/day, not too bad for a dead program. | |
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|  12-23-2004, 09:15 AM | #37 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Around the globe 
					Posts: 248
				 | You better start reading GFY  :love-smil 
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|  12-23-2004, 09:19 AM | #38 | 
| I am cool Join Date: Jul 2003 
					Posts: 14,494
				 | Wow that sucks really bad if it's true.. I don't know how I could let 900.00 slide let alone 30,000.00 | 
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|  12-23-2004, 09:37 AM | #39 | 
| Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tampa bay area 
					Posts: 1,886
				 | I got to say piss poor managment on your end. But good luck in geting your money. $30 k is a lot of money | 
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