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wolfshade · 10-15-2001, 05:50 AM

Hun,

Last responce to this thread.

That last statement is either not true or your reviewing faulty as I saw several of those LAST week freshly listed on your Yellow pages.

I'm not making this up I saw what I saw maybe it was a mistake on yoru part but I saw at least 3 of those type of galleries.

Maybe they slipped through the cracks or where altered after getting listed but facts are I saw them there.

If it was a mistake though I apologise for the remark I made earlier.

Then again I could switch the topic of that Napster of porn gallery thing you still list

(Hehe messing wit hya here, allthough you do still list those.)

Bottom line do what you want I'm venting my opinion just liek you do

Wolfshade

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HQ · 10-15-2001, 10:32 AM

wolfshade, the hun did ban those picture banners! so u must have saw some that slipped thru the cracks!

hun, what trackers can we use? is paycounter ok?

Ludedude · 10-15-2001, 11:09 AM

I think you guys are missing the point. The Hun said that he was NOT banning galleries based on the counters (yet). He wants a discussion about the tactics used by counter companies to force clicks on the counters.

Personally, I use a counter on most of the galleries I post. It's not invisible, but it's not right up there with the thumbs either. I don't say "only a counter, don't click" as that is against the TOS of the counter itself. As far as I know, there is only one TGP that currently doesn't list a site with a counter. For them I use a server side script just so I can see if they linked the gallery or not. They don't send any confirmations so I need to know if I'm wasting my time by posting there. Simple.

The reason I don't use that script on every gallery and leave it at that is two-fold. 1)The logs grow at an insane rate when listed at several places at once. 2)It's a load on the server that I don't want on every page even though it's a php script.

Some counters don't load, some are slow, some break etc. I put the counter at the bottom of the page, so if it doesn't load, the page loads anyway even though the icon is still spinning, the surfer can click the links etc. I know exactly how many clicks I get on that counter...it's nowhere near 10 in 10 minutes, even with a nice listing on The Hun's site. It's more like 30 or 40 a month, while averaging 100-150k uniques a day.

I think many of The Hun's concerns can be addressed by placing the counter in a location such that it doesn't look like a part of your gallery. If it looks like a thumb and it's near the other thumbs, it will get clicks.

While I applaud The Hun's one man campaign to clean up the way people advertise, I also think he needs to realize it's their decision to do so. If he doesn't like it, he can take his remedies (and he does) and it's up to you if you want to play by his rules or not.

I also know that if YOU take the measures necessary to avoid what The Hun doesn't like, you can get listed using almost any sponsor. His sandbox, his rules, but he also recognizes legitimate efforts to make a dollar.

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sasush · 10-15-2001, 12:24 PM

I don't understand why everyone does't use Stats4All... They are a small round image and give the info that you need.

Dunno.....

HQ · 10-15-2001, 12:25 PM

Ludedude, thanks for the clarification! i worded my question wrong. i was just wondering if paycounter would be ok if the ban takes effect.

HQ · 10-15-2001, 12:26 PM

sasush, what's the url? do they have prive stats?

Ludedude · 10-15-2001, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HQ:
Ludedude, thanks for the clarification! i worded my question wrong. i was just wondering if paycounter would be ok if the ban takes effect.

Obviously, the final "clarification" is up to The Hun himself. I'm sure you'll know if the counter(s) are banned...he'll make it clear on the submit page, or you'll get a rejection email stating why.

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porneasy2 · 10-15-2001, 12:29 PM

Yo hun you suck and I saw u at the fucking webmaster convention in amsterdam.. u r so ugly man!! couldnt blieve that there actually this motherfucking ugly bitches out there

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Ludedude · 10-15-2001, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by porneasy2:
Yo hun you suck and I saw u at the fucking webmaster convention in amsterdam.. u r so ugly man!! couldnt blieve that there actually this motherfucking ugly bitches out there

Now this guy is obviously "somebody" who should be invited to the big party

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aleck · 10-15-2001, 04:26 PM

nedstats.nl?

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wolfshade · 10-15-2001, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by porneasy2:
Yo hun you suck and I saw u at the fucking webmaster convention in amsterdam.. u r so ugly man!! couldnt blieve that there actually this motherfucking ugly bitches out there

Damnit that is an outright flamed and totally uncalled for.

Hun and me might not always see eye to eye I do respect his opinons as he obviously does mine.

Discussion is good, so is arguing.
Debate can be heated that is fine too.

Everybody is entitled to his/her opnion but flames like this are never called for.

It's sad realy sad!

Wolfshade

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sasush · 10-15-2001, 06:47 PM

HQ,

The url is http://www.stats4all.com . They don't have private stats

But why do you need private stats on a gallery??

I personally don't use counters. I just check my sign ups

HQ · 10-15-2001, 09:38 PM

thx sasush,

i want private stats to hide all my secrets of course!

fuck it, maybe i'll just write my own. i've been meaning to do that forever now.

The Hun · 10-16-2001, 01:06 AM

Hm... would have been nice if that guy would have walked up to me in Amsterdam to tell me that. At least then we could compare uglyness to see if he's right ;-)

Anyway, the non-blind SexTracker counter on my site got 1484 clicks yesterday. That's not counting a full day (missed about 2 hours or so). I'll write some regular submitters to see if we can do the same test on a counter. What I'm trying to find out is if there's really no way for counter companies to make money on a non-blind counter. After all, they do have their webmaster ads (SexTracker sends out this newsletter with ads, which is a good service and a good way to make money), so I don't think they need those blind ads to survive...

Will Adams · 11-05-2002, 09:01 PM

Greetings, one and all

Duck! There's a newbie in the house! LMAO Okay, sorry for that outburst.

Okay, I'm here because Hun recommended that I come here to read this discussion about the bind banners. I now understand the problem. But there is something that I've missed--the solution. I want my galleries listed on The Hun's Yellow Pages--what do I have to do? I'd like a counter to track my stats and referrals, if possible. Additionally, I use free hosts. Direct, and I shall follow. To me, it is a small price for me to pay to submit a good quality gallery for listing in trade for the massive amount of traffic I get--more than fair if you ask me. Hell, I'll bend over backwards for a trade like this, y'all.

Hun, please advise. Thank you, and hope to learn alot from you all. Take care.

Kindest regards,
RajinCajun

Fletch XXX · 11-05-2002, 09:05 PM

Will bumped it!

counters do suck with the ads. but for hundreds of pages what else do you do?

49thParallel · 11-05-2002, 09:22 PM

So, let me get this straight..counters are bad because they are blind links... but the ad space you sell to Exclusive "Young" Teens and "Buffy the Doggy Fucker" ads are all good...

You live in a strange strange world Mr. Hun. You say that Sextracker, in your mind, doesn't need blind links to survive...unfortunately your choice of ads doesn't seem to fall into your same category of business ethics and righteousness.

11-05-2002, 09:05 PM	#66
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10-15-2001, 05:50 AM	#51
wolfshade Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The right place Posts: 847	Hun, Last responce to this thread. That last statement is either not true or your reviewing faulty as I saw several of those LAST week freshly listed on your Yellow pages. I'm not making this up I saw what I saw maybe it was a mistake on yoru part but I saw at least 3 of those type of galleries. Maybe they slipped through the cracks or where altered after getting listed but facts are I saw them there. If it was a mistake though I apologise for the remark I made earlier. Then again I could switch the topic of that Napster of porn gallery thing you still list (Hehe messing wit hya here, allthough you do still list those.) Bottom line do what you want I'm venting my opinion just liek you do Wolfshade ------------------ Wolfshade's Moneymakers Get paid per minute at Dialerclopedia, per run at Nodialercash, or be a sponsor yourself!!! It's the choice of an Adult generation! ICQ#49873955 [email protected]

10-15-2001, 10:32 AM	#52
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	wolfshade, the hun did ban those picture banners! so u must have saw some that slipped thru the cracks! hun, what trackers can we use? is paycounter ok?

10-15-2001, 11:09 AM	#53
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	I think you guys are missing the point. The Hun said that he was NOT banning galleries based on the counters (yet). He wants a discussion about the tactics used by counter companies to force clicks on the counters. Personally, I use a counter on most of the galleries I post. It's not invisible, but it's not right up there with the thumbs either. I don't say "only a counter, don't click" as that is against the TOS of the counter itself. As far as I know, there is only one TGP that currently doesn't list a site with a counter. For them I use a server side script just so I can see if they linked the gallery or not. They don't send any confirmations so I need to know if I'm wasting my time by posting there. Simple. The reason I don't use that script on every gallery and leave it at that is two-fold. 1)The logs grow at an insane rate when listed at several places at once. 2)It's a load on the server that I don't want on every page even though it's a php script. Some counters don't load, some are slow, some break etc. I put the counter at the bottom of the page, so if it doesn't load, the page loads anyway even though the icon is still spinning, the surfer can click the links etc. I know exactly how many clicks I get on that counter...it's nowhere near 10 in 10 minutes, even with a nice listing on The Hun's site. It's more like 30 or 40 a month, while averaging 100-150k uniques a day. I think many of The Hun's concerns can be addressed by placing the counter in a location such that it doesn't look like a part of your gallery. If it looks like a thumb and it's near the other thumbs, it will get clicks. While I applaud The Hun's one man campaign to clean up the way people advertise, I also think he needs to realize it's their decision to do so. If he doesn't like it, he can take his remedies (and he does) and it's up to you if you want to play by his rules or not. I also know that if YOU take the measures necessary to avoid what The Hun doesn't like, you can get listed using almost any sponsor. His sandbox, his rules, but he also recognizes legitimate efforts to make a dollar. ------------------ Make BANK with these Babes! The Webmaster's Folder The Midnight TGP2 Submitter

10-15-2001, 12:24 PM	#54
sasush So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,026	I don't understand why everyone does't use Stats4All... They are a small round image and give the info that you need. Dunno.....

10-15-2001, 12:25 PM	#55
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	Ludedude, thanks for the clarification! i worded my question wrong. i was just wondering if paycounter would be ok if the ban takes effect.

10-15-2001, 12:26 PM	#56
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	sasush, what's the url? do they have prive stats?

10-15-2001, 12:29 PM	#58
porneasy2 Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: nederlndsa Posts: 2	Yo hun you suck and I saw u at the fucking webmaster convention in amsterdam.. u r so ugly man!! couldnt blieve that there actually this motherfucking ugly bitches out there ------------------ http://www.thehun.com

10-15-2001, 04:26 PM	#60
aleck Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 940	nedstats.nl? ------------------ PlatinumBucks - amazing conversions, 65% recurring or $30+ per signup BigPenis - $30 per signup from lifetime membership

10-15-2001, 06:47 PM	#62
sasush So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,026	HQ, The url is http://www.stats4all.com . They don't have private stats But why do you need private stats on a gallery?? I personally don't use counters. I just check my sign ups

10-15-2001, 09:38 PM	#63
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	thx sasush, i want private stats to hide all my secrets of course! fuck it, maybe i'll just write my own. i've been meaning to do that forever now.

10-16-2001, 01:06 AM	#64
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	Hm... would have been nice if that guy would have walked up to me in Amsterdam to tell me that. At least then we could compare uglyness to see if he's right ;-) Anyway, the non-blind SexTracker counter on my site got 1484 clicks yesterday. That's not counting a full day (missed about 2 hours or so). I'll write some regular submitters to see if we can do the same test on a counter. What I'm trying to find out is if there's really no way for counter companies to make money on a non-blind counter. After all, they do have their webmaster ads (SexTracker sends out this newsletter with ads, which is a good service and a good way to make money), so I don't think they need those blind ads to survive...

11-05-2002, 09:01 PM	#65
Will Adams Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 39	Greetings, one and all Duck! There's a newbie in the house! LMAO Okay, sorry for that outburst. Okay, I'm here because Hun recommended that I come here to read this discussion about the bind banners. I now understand the problem. But there is something that I've missed--the solution. I want my galleries listed on The Hun's Yellow Pages--what do I have to do? I'd like a counter to track my stats and referrals, if possible. Additionally, I use free hosts. Direct, and I shall follow. To me, it is a small price for me to pay to submit a good quality gallery for listing in trade for the massive amount of traffic I get--more than fair if you ask me. Hell, I'll bend over backwards for a trade like this, y'all. Hun, please advise. Thank you, and hope to learn alot from you all. Take care. Kindest regards, RajinCajun

11-05-2002, 09:22 PM	#67
49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	So, let me get this straight..counters are bad because they are blind links... but the ad space you sell to Exclusive "Young" Teens and "Buffy the Doggy Fucker" ads are all good... You live in a strange strange world Mr. Hun. You say that Sextracker, in your mind, doesn't need blind links to survive...unfortunately your choice of ads doesn't seem to fall into your same category of business ethics and righteousness.