Vince Carter Sabotaged His Own Team - GoFuckYourself.com

Mutt · 12-19-2004, 03:22 PM

Vince Carter represents everything that is wrong with the NBA. According to several Seattle Sonics players he tipped them off to an in bound play near the end of a game that was hanging in the balance.

New Jersey welcome to Vinsanity, the man Shaq dubbed 'Half Man Half Amazing' only a few years ago and whom most now call 'Half Man Half Season'.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports...-4123627c.html

Two days before Toronto Raptors general manager Rob Babcock traded Vince
Carter to the New Jersey Nets, he was informed that Carter may have tried to
sabotage his team in a game a month ago.
Whether that information led to Carter being traded Friday for Alonzo
Mourning, two other players and two draft picks is unclear. But after being
part of trade talks for more than a month, Carter was dealt less than 48
hours after Babcock was interviewed for a story about Carter's actions Nov.
19.

Three members of the Seattle SuperSonics say they believe Carter
intentionally tipped off a play during the final minute of the Raptors'
101-94 loss to the Sonics in Toronto.

With 29 seconds remaining in that game and the Sonics leading 97-90, the
Raptors called a timeout. After returning to the court, Carter lined up
along the edge of the key. He was facing the Sonics' bench with his hands on
his knees. According to a member of the Sonics, before the play began,
Carter said directly to the Seattle bench, "It's a flare. It's a flare." Two
other members of the Sonics confirmed that Carter told the Sonics bench that
the Raptors were running the flare play.

The Raptors, inbounding the ball above the Sonics bench, then ran a flare
play for Carter.

In the play, which Sonics scouts had observed was a common go-to play for
the Raptors, Carter worked his way up the key on the near side as Sonics
guard Ray Allen followed. At the elbow on the near side, Raptors forward
Matt Bonner set a screen on Allen for Carter, who then flared toward the
opposite corner. The pass from Morris Petersen was too long for Carter to
handle easily, and, unable to make a clean shot attempt, he passed the ball
to Bonner, who hit a 22-foot shot from the top of the key.

According to one member of the Sonics, the bench reacted immediately to what
Carter said, with Sonics players saying, "Did you hear that? Did you see
that? That's (expletive) up."

Another member of the Sonics said he discussed the play with a coach after
the game, and the coach said, "If you ever do that, I'll run you out of the
league."

Allen, who was guarding Carter, said: "I didn't hear it, but that's what
those other guys were saying (after the game), Reggie (Evans) and those
other guys. But all I said was, 'Why would he do that?' I don't know why he
would do that."

When asked to detail the incident, Evans chose not to discuss specifics.

"I don't want to get involved in that stuff, man," Evans said. "That stuff
is deep. I ain't scared of Vince or nothing like that, but that is between
him and his conscience. I ain't saying it did happen or it didn't happen. I'
ll leave that for Ray. I'll let Ray do all that type of talking, man.

"For real. I'll let Ray open his mouth, he is the one ... who got into it
with Kobe (Bryant), so I will just leave that alone. I don't want to get
into no beef with nobody."

Carter, reached through Raptors spokesman Jim LaBumbard, responded, "I'm not
going to comment on something as ridiculous as that."

Babcock was reached on Wednesday evening and said: "I hadn't heard that. I
would hope that would not be the case, but I am not aware of that. If he did
do that, I would be quite upset with that. But I don't know anything about
that. It is nothing I heard.

"That's the type of thing that, if I was aware of it, we would deal with it
internally, and we certainly would deal with it. But I am not aware of that.

"If something comes up to me like that, and it is solid, and it is obvious
that it did happen, we would take care of it internally."

Carter was traded to New Jersey two days later.

There are other possible explanations for Carter's actions.

"I guess you could look at it both ways," Allen said "Either, he was being
cocky and saying, 'I am still going to score,' or, 'I don't want you guys to
let me make this shot.'"

When asked if Carter was merely being cocky, one member of the Sonics said
he did not believe so, pointing out that the Raptors were down seven points
late in the game and that Carter had scored only 21 points.

Also, when asked if it were possible that Carter could have been trying to
decoy the Sonics, the member of the Sonics said, "Sure, but they ended up
running the play he told us, so I don't see how it could have been a decoy."

Asked why Carter would reveal the play, the Sonics member said, "We were all
under the impression that he was sabotaging his team because he was getting
booed by the fans and he wanted to get traded."

The incident occurred one day after the Raptors and the Portland Trail
Blazers were widely reported to be holding trade talks involving Carter.

It also came less than a week after Carter and Raptors coach Sam Mitchell
got into a spat because Mitchell benched Carter for the entire fourth
quarter of a game against Portland after Carter scored just four points in
22 minutes.

"Personally, for me it would be disrespecting myself," Evans said of Carter'
s actions. "Players should have more pride than to do things like that. You'
re playing for the love of the game. These days, obviously, they are playing
for money ... but you still have love for the game. Just balance it out.

"It's crazy because that could be somebody else out there, who wants to win,
who wants to make a difference for a coach, somebody like a Damien Wilkins
or a Mateen Cleaves who would love to be in that situation to get them over
that hump.

"Stuff like this just makes the league look bad." Frank Hughes:

Vitasoy · 12-19-2004, 04:11 PM

Ah no wonder the GM triggered the trade out of no where

xclusive · 12-19-2004, 04:16 PM

If this is true that would seriously suck...

boneprone · 12-19-2004, 04:18 PM

Im glad Vince didnt get traded to us...

Fuck that shit hector..

Let Jersey have Kidd and Carter and all thier mental problems.

Sosa · 12-19-2004, 04:19 PM

he has wanted out of Toronto for a long time now. Wrong of him to do it, but he finally was traded like he wanted.

Mutt · 12-19-2004, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xclusive
If this is true that would seriously suck...

The Sonics players definitely think he was doing it to fuck his own team, and half of the other players in the NBA who hate Vince Carter will know it's true. he 's a bitch and a momma's boy.

sherie · 12-19-2004, 04:23 PM

Bastard!

I am glad he is gone...he barely played when he was here...fuck him!

Vitasoy · 12-19-2004, 04:24 PM

Toronto, has another headcase on their hands now though...

Alonzo Mourning, says he does not want to play for the raptors, he want's to play for a contender.

Mutt · 12-19-2004, 04:29 PM

Zo isn't going to the Raptors - he's going back to Miami. Knowing Toronto's pathetic management they'll get next to nothing for him.

Vitasoy · 12-19-2004, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
Zo isn't going to the Raptors - he's going back to Miami. Knowing Toronto's pathetic management they'll get next to nothing for him.

They better make good on their draft picks then

Illicit · 12-19-2004, 04:58 PM

they should suspend his ass

Drake · 12-19-2004, 05:03 PM

If that's true it's awful and he should be suspended.

myjah · 12-19-2004, 06:07 PM

Can't we review a tape of this?

12-19-2004, 03:22 PM	#1
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Vince Carter Sabotaged His Own Team Vince Carter represents everything that is wrong with the NBA. According to several Seattle Sonics players he tipped them off to an in bound play near the end of a game that was hanging in the balance. New Jersey welcome to Vinsanity, the man Shaq dubbed 'Half Man Half Amazing' only a few years ago and whom most now call 'Half Man Half Season'. http://www.thenewstribune.com/sports...-4123627c.html Two days before Toronto Raptors general manager Rob Babcock traded Vince Carter to the New Jersey Nets, he was informed that Carter may have tried to sabotage his team in a game a month ago. Whether that information led to Carter being traded Friday for Alonzo Mourning, two other players and two draft picks is unclear. But after being part of trade talks for more than a month, Carter was dealt less than 48 hours after Babcock was interviewed for a story about Carter's actions Nov. 19. Three members of the Seattle SuperSonics say they believe Carter intentionally tipped off a play during the final minute of the Raptors' 101-94 loss to the Sonics in Toronto. With 29 seconds remaining in that game and the Sonics leading 97-90, the Raptors called a timeout. After returning to the court, Carter lined up along the edge of the key. He was facing the Sonics' bench with his hands on his knees. According to a member of the Sonics, before the play began, Carter said directly to the Seattle bench, "It's a flare. It's a flare." Two other members of the Sonics confirmed that Carter told the Sonics bench that the Raptors were running the flare play. The Raptors, inbounding the ball above the Sonics bench, then ran a flare play for Carter. In the play, which Sonics scouts had observed was a common go-to play for the Raptors, Carter worked his way up the key on the near side as Sonics guard Ray Allen followed. At the elbow on the near side, Raptors forward Matt Bonner set a screen on Allen for Carter, who then flared toward the opposite corner. The pass from Morris Petersen was too long for Carter to handle easily, and, unable to make a clean shot attempt, he passed the ball to Bonner, who hit a 22-foot shot from the top of the key. According to one member of the Sonics, the bench reacted immediately to what Carter said, with Sonics players saying, "Did you hear that? Did you see that? That's (expletive) up." Another member of the Sonics said he discussed the play with a coach after the game, and the coach said, "If you ever do that, I'll run you out of the league." Allen, who was guarding Carter, said: "I didn't hear it, but that's what those other guys were saying (after the game), Reggie (Evans) and those other guys. But all I said was, 'Why would he do that?' I don't know why he would do that." When asked to detail the incident, Evans chose not to discuss specifics. "I don't want to get involved in that stuff, man," Evans said. "That stuff is deep. I ain't scared of Vince or nothing like that, but that is between him and his conscience. I ain't saying it did happen or it didn't happen. I' ll leave that for Ray. I'll let Ray do all that type of talking, man. "For real. I'll let Ray open his mouth, he is the one ... who got into it with Kobe (Bryant), so I will just leave that alone. I don't want to get into no beef with nobody." Carter, reached through Raptors spokesman Jim LaBumbard, responded, "I'm not going to comment on something as ridiculous as that." Babcock was reached on Wednesday evening and said: "I hadn't heard that. I would hope that would not be the case, but I am not aware of that. If he did do that, I would be quite upset with that. But I don't know anything about that. It is nothing I heard. "That's the type of thing that, if I was aware of it, we would deal with it internally, and we certainly would deal with it. But I am not aware of that. "If something comes up to me like that, and it is solid, and it is obvious that it did happen, we would take care of it internally." Carter was traded to New Jersey two days later. There are other possible explanations for Carter's actions. "I guess you could look at it both ways," Allen said "Either, he was being cocky and saying, 'I am still going to score,' or, 'I don't want you guys to let me make this shot.'" When asked if Carter was merely being cocky, one member of the Sonics said he did not believe so, pointing out that the Raptors were down seven points late in the game and that Carter had scored only 21 points. Also, when asked if it were possible that Carter could have been trying to decoy the Sonics, the member of the Sonics said, "Sure, but they ended up running the play he told us, so I don't see how it could have been a decoy." Asked why Carter would reveal the play, the Sonics member said, "We were all under the impression that he was sabotaging his team because he was getting booed by the fans and he wanted to get traded." The incident occurred one day after the Raptors and the Portland Trail Blazers were widely reported to be holding trade talks involving Carter. It also came less than a week after Carter and Raptors coach Sam Mitchell got into a spat because Mitchell benched Carter for the entire fourth quarter of a game against Portland after Carter scored just four points in 22 minutes. "Personally, for me it would be disrespecting myself," Evans said of Carter' s actions. "Players should have more pride than to do things like that. You' re playing for the love of the game. These days, obviously, they are playing for money ... but you still have love for the game. Just balance it out. "It's crazy because that could be somebody else out there, who wants to win, who wants to make a difference for a coach, somebody like a Damien Wilkins or a Mateen Cleaves who would love to be in that situation to get them over that hump. "Stuff like this just makes the league look bad." Frank Hughes: __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

12-19-2004, 04:11 PM	#2
Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	Ah no wonder the GM triggered the trade out of no where __________________ [email protected]

12-19-2004, 04:16 PM	#3
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12-19-2004, 04:18 PM	#4
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Im glad Vince didnt get traded to us... Fuck that shit hector.. Let Jersey have Kidd and Carter and all thier mental problems. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

12-19-2004, 04:23 PM	#7
sherie Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,020	Bastard! I am glad he is gone...he barely played when he was here...fuck him! __________________ AIM sherierocks ICQ 127-296-286 Skype traffichor

12-19-2004, 04:19 PM	#5
Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	he has wanted out of Toronto for a long time now. Wrong of him to do it, but he finally was traded like he wanted.

12-19-2004, 04:24 PM	#8
Vitasoy GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 58,202	Toronto, has another headcase on their hands now though... Alonzo Mourning, says he does not want to play for the raptors, he want's to play for a contender. __________________ [email protected]

12-19-2004, 04:29 PM	#9
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Zo isn't going to the Raptors - he's going back to Miami. Knowing Toronto's pathetic management they'll get next to nothing for him. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

12-19-2004, 04:58 PM	#11
Illicit wtf ? Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: GFY Posts: 11,895	they should suspend his ass __________________ Insert Sig Here

12-19-2004, 05:03 PM	#12
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	If that's true it's awful and he should be suspended.

12-19-2004, 06:07 PM	#13
myjah Back in the harbor Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 11,482	Can't we review a tape of this? __________________ VP of Marketing AVN Media Network Skype: AVNJill [email protected]