Fiddy.

There's some cool shit in my sig for you to click on.

just remember, not everyone that collects erotic material does so for a quick wank....
no, azguy is right, there is absolutely no money in mobile porn....go away, nothing to see here...


;-))

Ah... I connected my modem for the first time on early 1995. Seriously, again, are you comparing tiny phones to real computers? Get real. Well, that's fine, some people want to do business in mobile computing. God bless them. I just don't see a point at this point in life :) You capture the perverts on the run, while I make a killing off of perverts at home. Sounds like a good deal to me :)

With this attitude i'm suprised you have any customers at all.

I agree that a 2" screen is perhaps a little too small for most people, but real color screen phones have only been out a year or two. Irrespective of this, mobile phones should end up as the primary delivery method for a huge amount of mainstream and adult content, they're accessible, constantly connected and everybody has one. It just makes sense.

I hear you - just like people didn't see the point of watching video online with 14.4 modems.

Then when we released the Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee Honeymoon video, the landscape suddenly changed.

All of a sudden, video online became a viable way to see porn ACTION and not just pics. THAT video changed everything at a time when experts thought the internet might just be a fad!

:winkwink:

BTW - I'll be sure to check what's going on with Adultie.com in 2005 sometime. I'm sure you're the one blazing the trail and we should all take notes

... especially the companies that paid over 120 billions of dollar for the G3 rights in Europe recently!

:thumbsup

Like I said, people WILL make money off of it. I'm glad some entrepreneurs are going that route. It's just not MY cup of tea. I have waited too long for the market to be ready to what Adultie.com has to offer, and I'm just not going to fight '94-type of wars over emerging concepts. No point! I am only one person and we are only one company. There's no room to expand to markets that DON'T EXIST YET :)

ok...so whats your point? If customers are stupid enough to pay out for the gimmick then let it be....wheres your beef? Are you a webmaster or a surfer??? Why should you be mad? Its more money in your pocket.

So the Tommy Lee and Pam video is what made the internet a viable lasting product? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :helpme :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I'm sorry if i misunderstood. I could of swore you said the Tommy Lee video is what killed the internet being a fad idea. I guess the dot com boom, yahoo, google and AOL had nothing to do with this.

I have no problem with that. I just don't see it being a massive revolution as many people here believe. It's nice, it's new, it's a nice way to burn some spare time. In the end of the day - it's useless :) Both as a surfer and a service provider I don't want to be there in such an early stage. It's a waste of money to try and do it all over again on a 2" screen this time :1orglaugh I will let other companies waste $$ on it and jump in when the time is right. "Too saturated" LOL.

check my sig :thumbsup

I definately agree about the 2" inch screen thing. Even on my Blackberry with the bigger screen pictures suck. But if a sucker is willing to part with his money...why not take it from him :glugglug

I'd imagine you wouldn't have to put in a 1/4 of the work that you would with the reg web. All u would need was some decent brandable mobile sounding domain names. Soon its going to be like 96 all over again, just on a smaller scale :Graucho

This is where I think differently. I don't want to take money from suckers. It sounds funny, but it's true. I rather give them a REAL unique and useful service in exchange for their $$.

Maybe. I don't think so, but maybe. If the demand is there we might offer some perverts-on-the-go.Adultie.com for those who can't wait to get home :) :1orglaugh :1orglaugh My whole thing is, I don't think the USERS want to go back to '96 all over again. That's it, they've had enough with low-quality pics and waiting forever to see pixels moving. So if I'm correct, it will end up being a gimmick thing, where people download mobile porn to show off, compare with their friend's mobile porn collection, etc. I don't want this type of clientele, sorry. It's going to be the Kazaa-type croud.

I like all kinds of money. :thumbsup

http://wired.com/news/culture/0,1284...w=wn_tophead_4

Now that's MOBILE PORN :)

Read this opinion:

http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,65509,00.html

Cell phones are interactive and interpersonal. They aren't entertainment boxes waiting to receive content to display to a passive user. Until the mobile-content industry finds a way to incorporate personal communication into its porn -- perhaps with multiplayer sex games or seamless cybersex -- I don't see us spending a billion dollars on phone porn.

Read it a gain and try to focus on my point:

"All of a sudden, video online became a viable way to see porn ACTION and not just pics. THAT video changed everything at a time when experts thought the internet might just be a fad!"

I'm referring to watching video online as a form of entertainment at a time when people complained that it was too slow and the sceens were too small.

The complaints at the time were ... Why would someone want to watch a porn video on "A COMPUTER" when they could watch a rental on TV?

It all changed with that video ...

... and at 4,000+ joins to Clublove per day at the time ... if you don't believe that shit, you're mistaken!

That video proved PORN VIDEO to a viable and watchable form of entertainment online!

:2 cents:

Bigger scale, not smaller ... there are potentially over 1 BILLION cell users to sell porn to ... there were only 10's of millions of people online in 96'

:winkwink:

60% (just made that up) of them are kids with parents who will demand the providers to block the content anyway :1orglaugh

Ok, so I'll use your MADE UP number of potential porn customers after you take out that 60%

400 million - when in 1996 there were only 30 - 40 million people online?

Thanks, for proving my point further wiseguy.

:thumbsup

You keep mining for gold in the saturated mines online with your brilliant launch in 2005!

I'll be watching and taking notes!

I'll also sell the picks, pans, and shovels to the miners of mobile content delivery, and we can meet up in 2 years and compare notes

:winkwink:

What you guys are missing here is that Mobile Porn is not like any other Mobile service/product such as ring tones, wallpapers, digital camera features, etc.

It's PORN after all. The following factors come into play:

1. Parents will demand providers to block such content on their kids' phones.

2. Even if they don't - teens are unlikely to waste their last dime on freaking limited pixels believed to be porn :1orglaugh

^ these two also apply to some extent to PC-based porn anyway.

3. LOW LOW LOW quality. It just can't be that we've lowered our standards from REAL SEX to DVD-quality sex, to PC-based-DivX-coded sex, to 2" small figures having sex on a god damn cell phone.

4. Privacy of the end-user. Are we going to see lines to the restrooms with peope waiting to get off on a 120x120 thumbnail-sized pic of a Pamela Anderson-looking figure? If they will do it at home, geez, doesn't it make more sense to actually USE A FREAKING PC or put on a DVD?

5. The only viable use is in a gimmick-fashion - compare pics with college buddies, download 10-second clips and try to figure out what the hell happened there, etc.

6. Waste of money for the end-users. I think that even people who like it at first will realize that it's not worth their $$. But then again, they spend $1 a pop for ring tones, so go figure. LOL.

7. Charge-backs. I don't think people will be happy with lousy '96-style content. Time will tell.

I'm tired :thumbsup

You should take notes :) Saturated? It's called an ESTABLISHED & PROVEN industry "wise-guy". LOL.

I'm not saying you won't make money man. We're just doing so in two different ways :) I am NOT going to be part of yet another fad (like I said, I am only one person) when there are so many opportunities here right now.

You think you're ready for it - then all the power to you :) Maybe in 2 years we can even work together. Like I said, I want to see this industry established before I step in. Heck, those end-users who insist on "doing it mobile" can still enjoy some parts of our upcoming service. I promise I will not block WAP access to those who can get in :)

I hope I'm mistaken, but I really don't think so. As I said, I will also benefit from mobile porn, so I really have nothing against it except the logical thinking that it just won't make it as big as some of you expect. IF it does - great, more users for me and it actually fits quite well with our business model.

actually. today yes, thats true. tomorrow...you''re in for some very cool stuff. widescreen portables, streaming media, VGA plus. Go check out qualcomm's mediaflow stuff for some ideas.

I work in the cell industry, some coooool shit coming.

That is true. Like I said, 2008-9 :)

:)

We can do business now if it make sense.

... and the market is saturated, man. Not saying that you won't be able to make money, just stating the obvious.

I've watched several companies in this business that did over $100 million in it's best years lose marketshare (some went out of business) because the pie is being eroded by tons more entrants into the business, and other pressures.

History has a way of predicting the future. I know history. I've participated in much of it. History of the home video biz, history of the phonesex biz, history of the adult internet biz. It all follows a similar path with adult entertainment.

Best of luck, man - you'll need it as well as skill, marketing, and hard/smart work!

:2 cents:

We are not what you think :) The last thing I'm worried about is the saturation in this market. Let's just say that if history has it right, it will be the equivalent to the affect Google had on the search market :)

Getting late :sleep

Seriously, I wish you the best!

:thumbsup

Hit me up on ICQ sometime and we can debate privately

LOL

I'm off to bed as well :) Good night :thumbsup

As my lovely & talented assistant said:
'God bless the short sighted"

Looks like I built up some tension here...

azguy, I have to disagree with you here. If theres a money making oportunity out there thats far from being saturated, why not take it? Money is money as long as its legit. I know countless ammounts of people who have porn clips on their phones, downloaded wall papers and ring tones, etc. Hell I just ordered some "moantone" from a link posted in the first page earlier for shits and giggles.

This could be something truely unique if you know what you're doing and have the right marketing approach. Give it a little bit and im sure this will be a booming new side of the industry. Look how technology is changing every day. Why not get in early and start up now. All the more room to grow and improve.


The possibilitys are endless.

I've got to shower and then going out to watch the game. :glugglug

I agree with you: if you believe it's an opportunity to make money - definitely go for it. I am not saying there is no money in mobile porn. I'm just not willing to test the waters myself. I'll let others do it. When the market is ready - Adultie.com will be there.

I'm personally not interested in "getting in early" in mobile porn. I have many other projects ready for the prime time :)

Fair enough.

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it will be the next large money maker

Pete

I would be more concerned about kids accessing adult content via a cell phone and buying these "Services". That couldnt be a good thing at all with no age verification features.

Aside from all, I see this CELL PORN as nothing but a Marketing platform/Advertising gimmick. Very few men will rub one out to a cell phone pic or vid IMHO.

So essentially its an Ad tool. :2 cents:

Wrong.
Your living room is about to become a battle field again.

wow im SO glad everyone agrees mobile porn is nothing (that way we can keep earning a shitload on it here in Europe)

I wanted to get into the US mobile phone ringtone/graphics market for a while, but still can't figure out how to get the porn to the phone user, and bill him on that phone like they do in Europe? From what I can see the US phone companies have the billing system all to themselves.

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we'll just have to wait and see

I think the bored guy riding the bus every morning might have a peek.

Well, azguy and his strange opinions aside, mobile content delivery is an excellent marketing tool. Just like other technologies, try thinking of it that way instead of being something to replace what you do already. Anyone who doesn't see the benefit of adding a clean 10% or so to their bottom line with minimal work and risk shouldn't be in business if you ask me.

For my first example, I'll use member upsells. You've got a guy who has joined a site and is a loyal member -- he loves the girl or girls the site features -- he's also the first person that would pay an additional monthly fee to get wallpaper, screensavers, maybe even personalized text messages from the girl or girls of his choice monthly.

Or say you've got a reality site. You send your existing members teaser trailers on their cell phones when you update every week (or whatever your schedule) -- while it does cost you a few cents to send the trailers out, you get members who will come back and log in to see the new updated videos and they extend their membership for another month due to the novelty of the mobile marketing, and perhaps even longer if they really like the whole thing.

There are so many ways to look at this it's not even funny. Mobile delivery in the EU is already hot and exceptionally profitable, now it's time to bring it into the states and start making money here.

One of my clients has an excellent system that's been in use in Europe for quite some time now, and they are ramping up with US delivery and partnerships with various companies right now.

They've got a definitely recognizable demo with some of the most searched for web girls out there if anyone's interested in seeing it. Email me or icq me with your cell number and I'll have them send you the demo to your mobile. --

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Just got back from exhbiting at Internext Vegas and Webmasters at our booth shared some of the sentiments seen in this thread. Screens too small, US market not ready, faddish. We heard the same cynicism at Internext Florida last year. But the International market for cell phone content exists and is growing exponentially.

We can all hypothesize why it exists - true mobile privacy, sharing content with buddys over IR/Bluetooth, 'nomadic nooky'. The truth is there are sociocellular reasons why consumers download porn that we don't quite yet understand - a little bit like the ringtone phenomena - Cell phones have become the Ipod of the adult industry in the International market - but nobody quite knows where the tipping point originated. The important truth is that US adult webmasters can commercially leverage this right now. Webmasters with at least 10% international membership/traffic are benefiting by cellular enabling their websites and enjoying fresh, novel revenues.

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