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andrej_NDC 12-18-2004 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss
Yup, exactly what im seeing lately.

They have the excuse that theyre sold out anyway. The hun's first spot is sold out for months right. Well some people are making good money with it, thats for sure but most tgp owners are simply pushing it. demand is one thing but quality and being able to make money is something else. Price isnt calculated by demand only...do i make any sense here?

yup, thats the problem, that the price don't reflect the real opportunity to make sales, some owners ask a lot, some ask less...I would like to know how some of them figured the price they ask for the spots. One example, worldsex is asking $500 per spot, the same as hun until now, but we all know the difference in both sites...

pornguy 12-18-2004 04:45 PM

Congrats on the sales as that traffic can run hot and cold.

andrej_NDC 12-18-2004 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by sean416
I htink you're wrong there. the only time the price will drop is when there isn't enough buyers, till then it will continue to be the high price.
I know some sites with the same prices over years, and they are available each time I ask, mostly on the next day...I would guess, its a part of image of the site.

BV 12-18-2004 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by beemk
the gallery could just have a higher click through rate. you have to look at profit on something like this, not ratio. it could have half the click through ratio and make the same sales and your ratio would be 1:400. makes no difference to me as long as im making the same $. :2 cents:



I agree, probably the most overlooked issue in this industry, you make an agressive gallery and you're going to get higher ratios.

This problem bothers me when I am making my FHG templates. Personally I like to make them very aggresive. Prime up the surfer with some good content and then shuffle them off to the tour ASAP!

The only drawback, it makes your conv. ratios look worse.
& SINCE EVERYONE THINKS CONV RATIOS ARE SO IMPORTANT
you stand chance of being judged wrongly because of their own ignorance.

slapass 12-18-2004 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by BV
I agree, probably the most overlooked issue in this industry, you make an agressive gallery and you're going to get higher ratios.

This problem bothers me when I am making my FHG templates. Personally I like to make them very aggresive. Prime up the surfer with some good content and then shuffle them off to the tour ASAP!

The only drawback, it makes your conv. ratios look worse.
& SINCE EVERYONE THINKS CONV RATIOS ARE SO IMPORTANT
you stand chance of being judged wrongly because of their own ignorance.

Truth and how do you avoid that? Blind links have horrible conversion but we all know it can lead to bank if done well.

bigdog 12-18-2004 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by andrej_NDC
yup, thats the problem, that the price don't reflect the real opportunity to make sales, some owners ask a lot, some ask less...I would like to know how some of them figured the price they ask for the spots. One example, worldsex is asking $500 per spot, the same as hun until now, but we all know the difference in both sites...
yeah, a major difference in quality but worldsex uses free hosted galleries, he doesn't need people to buy gallery spots

Nima 12-18-2004 04:56 PM

way to go Yngwie and Andrej on a kickass program :thumbsup :thumbsup you can't go wrong with nextdoorcash's sites :glugglug

Theo 12-18-2004 04:56 PM

biskoppen, very good points

andrej_NDC 12-18-2004 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by slapass
Truth and how do you avoid that? Blind links have horrible conversion but we all know it can lead to bank if done well.
I think he didn't mean blind links, there are many types of galleries, my last spot on thehun made almost the same amount of sales, but the gallery was "aggresive", so the ratio was 1:1700 raw, not 1:800 like now...different ratios, the same result

andrej_NDC 12-18-2004 04:59 PM

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Originally posted by Nima
way to go Yngwie and Andrej on a kickass program :thumbsup :thumbsup you can't go wrong with nextdoorcash's sites :glugglug
thanks Nima :thumbsup

Yngwie 12-18-2004 05:02 PM

this was the gallery http://smashingmovies.com/andrej/

Paparazzi 12-18-2004 05:12 PM

Nice stats Yngwie :thumbsup
My last 2-5 spot broke even the first couple days and then the recurring was kicking in. Still have a few active members from that spot 9 months ago

Can't wait for my topspot in January :glugglug

Twe Russ 12-18-2004 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by Paparazzi
Nice stats Yngwie :thumbsup
My last 2-5 spot broke even the first couple days and then the recurring was kicking in. Still have a few active members from that spot 9 months ago

Can't wait for my topspot in January :glugglug

Who did you promote? Show an example of Gallery you used.

xclusive 12-18-2004 05:29 PM

Congrats happy that you did well very nice christmas present...

FunForOne 12-18-2004 05:55 PM

congrats.

I never win

bigdog 12-18-2004 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Yup, exactly what im seeing lately.

They have the excuse that theyre sold out anyway. The hun's first spot is sold out for months right. Well some people are making good money with it, thats for sure but most tgp owners are simply pushing it. demand is one thing but quality and being able to make money is something else. Price isnt calculated by demand only...do i make any sense here?

Soon it will be almost impossible to make good profit from the big tgps. Personally i couldnt be bothered spending 10k a month, a lot of time and energy on thumbs, galleries, etc just to make 1k profit.

Yes, it will still be able to make profit from a 650 spot...the question is how much.

A lot of people lose money on spots, they are just keeping the mouth quiet about it.If you are a paysite owner and you break even it's not bad, because webmasters will see your galleries all over the place, and maybe signup for your program

Paparazzi 12-18-2004 06:18 PM

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Originally posted by Twe Russ
Who did you promote? Show an example of Gallery you used.
sorry can't tell you

Twe Russ 12-18-2004 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by Paparazzi
sorry can't tell you
No prob. :BangBang: :winkwink:

Yngwie 12-19-2004 04:04 AM

Final results after 4 days....


34 sales
27 953 clicks
1:822.2

$561

polish_aristocrat 12-19-2004 04:11 AM

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Originally posted by kaliboy2g
1:800

horrible ratios, so horrible traffic but there is tons of it

1:800 is horrible ratio? that's pretty average

andrej_NDC 12-19-2004 05:51 AM

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Originally posted by kaliboy2g
1:800

horrible ratios, so horrible traffic but there is tons of it

those are 800 raw hits, so probably 600 unique visitors, on a #1 hun spot, on a gallery with high CTR, I would say, its more than ok :) average submitters do 1:600+ with 2% CTR on more quality traffic :)

pradaboy 12-19-2004 05:58 AM

I agree with biskoppen and Bat...

It's getting harder and harder to make good profits with spots because prices are going up and never come down.

You'd have to be a paysite owner nowadays to make good profit on a topspot @ TheHun.

andrej_NDC 12-19-2004 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pradaboy
I agree with biskoppen and Bat...

It's getting harder and harder to make good profits with spots because prices are going up and never come down.

You'd have to be a paysite owner nowadays to make good profit on a topspot @ TheHun.

:glugglug

bigdog 12-19-2004 06:17 AM

Also as a paysite owner you will get credit for joins from people who go join from the acutal site page and not though your affilate link.

pradaboy 12-19-2004 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by bigdog
Also as a paysite owner you will get credit for joins from people who go join from the acutal site page and not though your affilate link.
I'm not sure what your point is but most sponsors use 90 day cookies nowadays so don't worry about getting credit

Sosa 12-19-2004 04:09 PM

looks good

BackToMine 12-19-2004 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by bigdog
Also as a paysite owner you will get credit for joins from people who go join from the acutal site page and not though your affilate link.
cookie cookie cookie :glugglug

andrej_NDC 12-20-2004 11:13 AM

36 sales - 1:778.1
:)

bigdog 12-20-2004 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by pradaboy
I'm not sure what your point is but most sponsors use 90 day cookies nowadays so don't worry about getting credit

doesn't help if you got cookies turned off

pradaboy 12-20-2004 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by bigdog
doesn't help if you got cookies turned off
true, I'm not even gonna argue with you that a paysite isn't better to OWN yourself coz it is. Only when working with affiliates you have to keep in mind that it will only pay off when you hit bigger numbers coz the startup cost is pretty high :2 cents:


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