Someone always wants to throw shit up about bet, and black named shows awards.

First of all BET is owned by the same company that owns MTV, so if there is anything racists about that then speak with the white guy that owns the station.

It is also funny how you fail to mention whites as taking advantage of welfare as well. You do realize that there are more whites on welfware than minorities right? Just because whenever you see a government assistance news report and they show minorities, that doesn't mean that they are the only ones using government assistance.

Negro college fund is exactly what it is. More whites have the chances and funding to go college, the fund is to help kids whos parents can't write a check go to college to help those numbers.

Go to the campus of a black school and you will see whites that are on FULL MINORITY SCHOLARSHIPS but you never hear about that.

What makes you think that you're more qualified than the black person that was hired over you? Odds you're assuming that and using affirmative action as an excuse.

If you two are both applying for the same job than apparently he/she (affirmative action doesn't only apply/help blacks, it also applies to WOMEN, even white) has the same type of qualifications as you.

P.S. ABC, CBS, NBC don't cater to minorities, they cater to the majority in this country. So you can think of that as White Entertainment Television.

I think he sounds pretty intelligent. I don't agree with the whole "right to be racist" part. :2 cents:

Gonna sleep.

Have fun kids.

Since when should skin color be taken into consideration when awarding kids funds for college.


Fuck and this whole time i thought good grades was what i needed, i should have been working on my tan instead

I would like to make a comment about the 'Hip-Hop' is the most influencal music statement.

I partially agree, but that's the fad of this decade. Everyone wants to be a gangsta, wigga, yigga whatever, it's MTV yadda yadda that passes this along.

But if you think about it, each decade has had it's most influencial style of music, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's... I do believe it's time for this hip-hop fad to end please.. I would like to turn on the T.V and not see a bunch of kids thinking they are the next 50 Cent, screaming yo yo yo homie yo. :1orglaugh

Well said.:thumbsup

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

I am from Canada and we dont have the same problems the US has. So dont tell me to blame my government. I am very open minded and willing to discuss this subject. Prove me wrong (and I always admit when I am wrong) and I will eat my words. ENLIGHTEN me! It's you who thinks you're right and your just defending what you already beleive. You're the fucking problem, not us! So if you have to leave this thread just so you dont get your panties in a knot, then get out of here! Don't leave us with some condenscending remarks about how our way of thinking is wrong.

I think all races are equal, I think discrimination is something our society needs to resolve in order to achieve peace, I think every one has the right to live their life the way they want to as long as it doesnt infringe on their neighbor.

But I also know black people loooove their fried chicken, I know paki peoples houses stink like currey, I think the chinese english accents are funny, I know white people dont know how to dance, I know jews are cheap, I know mexicans cant give directions for shit, etc. That kind of stuff is never going to change, its okay to point it out, our cultures are different, yes. But that doesnt make any one of us any better then the next. So in my humble opinion, if you're offended by me saying to my white friend "whats up nigga" or "quit being a jew" etc then you are the problem.

Hiphop isn't a culture. It's a type of music. Some people take it way too far.

What is terrifying is people that feel it is the job of government to educate people to think a certain way.

50 niggaz, chinks, gooks, spics, cracks, jews and terrorists discussing how we should treat each other.


hip hop is the same shit as rock and roll, disco, etc they're a culture to some people and they're a type of music to others. To YOU it might not be a culture, but say that to the people who eat, shit and sleep hip hop.

I guess I never understood how a few singers could influence people that much into dressing a certain way. Perhaps it is, I just don't get it.

:1orglaugh

jesus christ, you're hilarious.

I agree with you there. :winkwink: It certainly doesnt make sense, but it does to a lot of people.

So if there are more whites than blacks on welfare and living under the poverty line why do blacks always site poverty as the reason for their sky high crime rates?


P.S. ABC, CBS, NBC cater to everyone in the country. Show me one example of one thing ever shown on any of the networks mentioned called "White (fill in the blank)"

So whats the point of this thread : Battuss is a rasist? :)

Nap, very well said except the affirmative action part. Just happened to a friend of mine that was applying for a manager postion. Rumors were going around that they wanted a 'black female' though my friend kept on saying he was more qualified. They never gave him an interview.

The union got involved just a little saying that he never applied according to HR. Funny thing is that he submited his cover letter, resume and all supporting documents overnight just to get comfirmation.

Not to knock down the women who got the position and 20k increase in pay but to overlook another applicant with more experience, higher degree level and glowing reviews in the work place... Sorry to say it still happens even in 2004. :)

I disagree, poverty and lack of education can be a factor that leads to an increased crime rate and more likelyhood of joining a gang but that doesn't mean "hip hop" is harmless. When you have teens who only hears shit about doing drive bys and fucking bitches 24/7 are you really expecting that to not have any influence on them?

fucking indeed !

You are confusing your definitions.
Racism = A feeling of racial, cultural or ethnic superiority over others.

Prejudice= Certain beliefs and attributes that you associate with people of other cultures, races or ethnicites.

Just because you are prejudiced against someone of another race does not mean you are automatically a racist!

IT is NOT the government's role to educate children, it is their role to provide a structure and institutions where learning can take place that can give them a sense of the world and what it has to offer. The job of teaching morals and values is up to the parents. Don't blame the government just because some parent's can't do a good job.

:thumbsup agreed on all points. The only time prejudism becomes racism is when the prejudice is "all chinese people are dumb" or something like that.

I had promised to leave this thread alone; not, on the contrary, to prevent my panties getting bunched (when in fact I wear boxers), but because I feel expressing my opinion here is an act in futility. When I see that I have been grossly misunderstood, however, I must break my promise and clarify myself.

I do not believe the government has the right to brainwash citizens via education or any means. You mistook my use of the word educate for connoting brainwashing. I do believe it is the responsibility of goverment to provide adequate educational facilities, wherein citizens are able to rise above their base instincts, and become a more socially enlightened people.

I still insist that rap or hip hop form a harmless sub-culture. There are many people who would have you believe that movies and music influence people in a negative way. This promotes censorship in a way that can cripple these artistic mediums. If you believe nothing I say, I truly hope someone will remember that watching a movie, or listening to Eminem will not turn you into a modern day Norman Bates. Poverty and lack of adequate education have, throughout history, proven to cause near as much social unrest as the battle between religius faiths. It might be argued that music and movies can actually educate people in a positive way.

This leads me to my last point. Our definition of racism. Maybe I define racism wrongly. My phd is in economics and not social studies (although it is a social science). Racism, to me, is the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races. I feel strongly about this subject because I've had friends killed in the name of racism.

So, I'm not a facist, I'm just someone who thinks racism - in all its many forms - is a bad thing. I'm also not a bible-basher. Believe me, I'm not the world's nicest guy. Among other things, I loan money and erect/rent out buildings -- these activities do not allow me to be entirely pleasant. I also don't like to condescend, but there is no nice way to tell someone you believe them to be wrong.

Let me leave you with something. Babies come into the world as innocent lambs. They know nothing of racism and it's consequences. It is society that teaches racism. Ask yourself, would the world be a better place if our babies were never taught racism? There is nothing wrong with a white guy calling a black guy names, if that is okay with both parties. The problems arise when name-calling is done through hate. Words have a habit of turning to violence.

My point, throughout this, has been remove the hate. It wont happen, I just believe it's what people should strive to achieve.

You are a fucking moron. You are not "enlightend", you don't have all the answers, and you have no clue how pathetic you sound.

you are the problem, your way of thinking breeds this bullshit. "It's certainly not my fault for the way I act. It's his fault, it's the governments fault, it's everyones problem but mine. I have no control over my actions."

And your "holier then thou" bullshit about "your country" not having these problems is about as ignorent as they come. Get a fucking clue. :321GFY If you think for one fucking second anyone is going to believe that only kids in the US are influenced by the negative attitude presented in rap you have another thing coming.

the message the "rap movement" sends is not a good one, for anyone to be listening to. if taken in moderation it is no big deal, but like everything else, alot of people become dependent on it and live their lives around it. REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY ARE FROM.

so again :321GFY

About 38% on welfare are white.
37% on welfare are black.
Looks good for blacks until you take a look at ALL the numbers.
37% of welfare goes to blacks, which only make up about 12% of the US population.
Side note: On average a black will get more money than a white from welfare p/month.

More whites have that chance because there are more whites. Blacks are more likely to get goverment aid than whites.


Its all fun and great while blacks are getting a free ride and are able to yell racism at the drop of a hat just to get thier way. But any negative comments about how everything is gift wrapped and handed over to blacks, then they get angry cause they think it might stop.


Crime rate for blacks is higher
Drug use for blacks is higher
Unemployment level for blacks is higher
Education level for blacks is lower: High school dropout rate higher for blacks
AIDS infection higher for blacks
Teen pregnancy rate higher for blacks
Children in single parent households higher for blacks
The list goes on...

Its time for blacks to get off the kiddie bench and get in the real game. Stop wanting everything spoonfed to them and start acting like productive citizens. And that learning starts at home.

If you want to know where I get my info: http://www.fedstats.gov/

Hey hey hey! Stop talking that REALITY crap.

You MUST BE A RACIST.

Now let me go check out some of my "hip hop culture disks" where the artist can call himself and his friends a nigga repeatedly.



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My open letter To generic racist black person:
Sorry champ. Was your daddy hanged for being black? Do you live in a town full of hicks that want to kill you for being black? Were you a slave? If so then yes you can cry fowl otherwise shut the fuck up.

It pisses me off when people use slavery or discrimination to justify hate.. slaves come in all shapes sizes AND COLOURS get over it.

There was a thread yesterday where a white chick got her ass kicked by a black chick and everyone stood around and watched. Granted it was a school fight and all but everyone was like "hah poor white chick" Reverse it and it probly would have been a hate crime.

Most of the rime racisem is nothing more then an outlet for "hate" and ignorance. If people would take the time to pull there heads out of there asses and edjucate themselves and their children the world would be a better place, but it wont happen in our lifetimes :2 cents:

there not dumb.. they just cant drive :1orglaugh :winkwink:

if hip hop really had influence, kids would kill themseles 100000000 more times then now

I'm betting that your definition of "socially enlightened people" is "people who think like me."
The government does provide adequate educational facilites. You do seem to advocate brainwashing pens, since you feel our present form of education is turning people who don't think correctly out into the world.

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:1orglaugh Says who? Some presenter at the Vibe Awards?

fuck you. now i will never teach you how to spam.

butt! it was a joke!! That post is like a month old!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I guess that is just the way it is.

After all they happened, that should not really be a problem.

Yes, definitely

Shouldn't this have been "50 niggaz, chinks, gooks, spics, cracks, kikes and towel heads discussing how we should treat each other.."

PS Why does all rap music sound the same?

how did i know if i scrolled to the bottom juicy would have a pic here?

It's his personal opinion.