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|  12-12-2004, 12:25 PM | #1 | 
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				starting an airline??
			 What are the costs associated with starting a small Domestic airline?? International airline??? Im just trying to find out more info on the aviation business.. Is it very profitable? 
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|  12-12-2004, 12:26 PM | #2 | 
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|  12-12-2004, 12:29 PM | #3 | 
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				 | http://www.airpolonia.com.pl/ This is an Airline in Poland which is seeking an investor with 800,000$. They just went bankrupt.   Vanessa | 
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|  12-12-2004, 12:29 PM | #4 | |
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 im sure there are business loans and shit for buying airplanes.. 
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|  12-12-2004, 01:06 PM | #6 | 
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				 | tons of money.  most of the smaller airlines own very few of their planes, or they buy used ones.  I'd imagine the costs would be well over $200million for US Domestic.  I don't know about overseas. 
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|  12-12-2004, 01:10 PM | #7 | |
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|  12-12-2004, 01:15 PM | #9 | 
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				 | a shitload | 
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|  12-12-2004, 01:16 PM | #10 | 
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				 | Richard branson, the BILLIONaire that owns virgin Airlines said on Howard Stern that there's a joke in the airline biz. It was something like airlines turn billionaires into millionaires. If you were serious about it I would say the only profitable approach is a small fleet of corporate jets. | 
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|  12-12-2004, 01:16 PM | #11 | 
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				 | Talk with Richard Branson!!! maybe he can fork over a few mil for sum competition. | 
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|  12-12-2004, 01:19 PM | #12 | 
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				 | LOL I would guess its too much for you.  Each plane is several million, then you gotta contract for the space at the airports, then you gotta hire a bunch of people, and pilots make pretty good money.  Good luck with your venture, please tell us the name of your airline, so we know to be careful. | 
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|  12-12-2004, 01:19 PM | #13 | 
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				 | Shit most of these airlines today arent even profitable! | 
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|  12-12-2004, 01:23 PM | #14 | 
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				 | I would venture to say that a good chunk of the smaller airports/airlines are subsidized by the adjacent city/county.  I know that the one in my hometown is.  They have 4 outgoing flights a day, probably 30 passengers per flight at $100.  That comes out to about $12,000 a day, figure in land, employees, security, upkeep, maintenance, fuel, insurance, etc.  Probably not much profit, if any. 
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|  12-12-2004, 01:26 PM | #16 | 
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				 | howstuffworks.com all your questions will be answered there 
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|  12-12-2004, 01:26 PM | #17 | 
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				 | richard branson started up Virgin australia for only $10M 
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