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  • Odin
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    • Jan 2004
    • 2545

    #1

    For All Those Idiots Who Think Europe is More "Free" Than The US

    I am definetly not a neo-Con, but I think when one of the most basic freedoms (speech) is infringed upon it says something about the nation.

    http://news.independent.co.uk/europe...p?story=591175

    France to punish homophobic and sexist remarks with jail sentences
    By John Lichfield in Paris

    09 December 2004

    France moved yesterday towards the creation of a new law which would make sexist or homophobic comments illegal and forbid job discrimination against homosexuals.

    After a muddled late-night debate, in which a number of governing-party deputies made starkly homophobic declarations, the National Assembly gave a second reading to a bill that would create a "high authority" to fight discrimination of all kinds. The bill, which will become law if approved unchanged by the Senate, the upper house, later this month, extends existing penalties for racist abuse to all insults made for reasons of "gender or sexual orientation or handicap".

    If the bill is passed, anyone found guilty of making such remarks, verbally or in writing, would risk a one-year prison sentence and a fine of up ?45,000 (£31,000). The law, which would make penalties against homophobia and sexism stronger in France than almost any other EU nation, has been pushed very strongly by President Jacques Chirac.

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    These same laws apply in many other European countries. And are not limited to these fields alone. Immigration, race, history (Holocaust, etc) are other fields that are now limited to only certain types of speech across much of Europe
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  • DaLord
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    • Aug 2001
    • 3318

    #2
    How can it be wrong to make laws that will forbid those kind of things?
    Isn't it because they wanna protect people from those kind of comments?

    Not all people find sexist or homophobic comments funny. Not even close.

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    • ironlung
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      • Aug 2004
      • 1012

      #3
      france is just 1 of the many countries in europe

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      • Damian_Maxcash
        So Fucking Banned
        • Oct 2002
        • 12745

        #4
        I dont agree with the making comments bit, u can say what u like

        But the no discrimination part is cool

        In NZ it is illegal to dicriminate against anybody for any reason

        And that includes positve discrimination

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        • Odin
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          • Jan 2004
          • 2545

          #5
          Originally posted by DaLord
          How can it be wrong to make laws that will forbid those kind of things?
          Isn't it because they wanna protect people from those kind of comments?

          Not all people find sexist or homophobic comments funny. Not even close.
          For one, these laws quickly spill over into speech which even question homosexuality or anything about it. Secondlly, what makes homosexuals special enough to be exempt from criticism? I can call someone a fat whore, or a dirty slut, or a mole faced bitch but if I call a homosexual a poof I go to jail?
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          • Libertine
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            • May 2002
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            #6
            For those idiots who think Europe isn't more free than the US: I live in a country where I can legally fuck hookers while smoking pot and watching beast porn
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            • wes
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              • Apr 2002
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              #7
              Originally posted by punkworld
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              • BRISK
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                • Feb 2003
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                #8
                france is just 1 of the many countries in europe
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                • Sly
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                  • Sep 2004
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                  #9
                  The Parliament must be full of a bunch of panzy assed women. Fuckin' homos.
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                  • WarChild
                    Let slip the dogs of war.
                    • Jan 2003
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                    #10
                    Some people consider homosexuality a genetic defect. A disease if you will. Recently research on rats have produced some controversial results along that same line.

                    The French can outlaw anything they want, but seriously, who take's the French serious anyway? They still celebrate the "French Liberation of Paris". As if anyone believes the French were responsible for driving Germany out of France.
                    .

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                    • - Jesus Christ -
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                      • Mar 2003
                      • 7197

                      #11
                      Those faggot ass homo-cock faggy French fagzor fags!!

                      Amen

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                      • Sly
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                        • Sep 2004
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by WarChild
                        Some people consider homosexuality a genetic defect. A disease if you will. Recently research on rats have produced some controversial results along that same line.

                        The French can outlaw anything they want, but seriously, who take's the French serious anyway? They still celebrate the "French Liberation of Paris". As if anyone believes the French were responsible for driving Germany out of France.
                        Does anybody really even care about the French? They're the French. They have what... French fries and French bread. Good for them.
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                        • - Jesus Christ -
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                          • Mar 2003
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                          #13
                          I love the french... I hate their government.

                          Hell, I hate MY government.

                          Amen

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                          • Beastiepoo
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                            • Mar 2002
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                            #14
                            Amazing how many in the US can't understand the very basic difference between Europe and European Countries.
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                            • - Jesus Christ -
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Beastiepoo
                              Amazing how many in the US can't understand the very basic difference between Europe and European Countries.
                              *cough* EU *cough* euro *cough*

                              Had a little something in my throat.

                              Amen

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                              • Sly
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                                • Sep 2004
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by Beastiepoo
                                Amazing how many in the US can't understand the very basic difference between Europe and European Countries.
                                It seems to me the difference in Europe as a whole and European countries keeps getting smaller, and smaller, and smaller. Wouldn't you say?
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                                • quiet
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Sly
                                  Does anybody really even care about the French? They're the French. They have what... French fries and French bread. Good for them.
                                  and the best cheese and wine
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                                  • Odin
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                                    • Jan 2004
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Beastiepoo
                                    Amazing how many in the US can't understand the very basic difference between Europe and European Countries.
                                    For a start I am not from the US. Secondly would you like me to list the countries with similar laws?

                                    NORWAY,
                                    GERMANY,
                                    SWEDEN,
                                    BRITIAN,
                                    etc etc etc

                                    Some of these laws are not wholly specific to homosexuality alone, but about similar such issues. Furthermore the EU promotes such laws wholeheartedly, so I think it is a fair call.
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                                    • EviLSuperstaR
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                                      • May 2004
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by punkworld
                                      For those idiots who think Europe isn't more free than the US: I live in a country where I can legally fuck hookers while smoking pot and watching beast porn

                                      Hahaha, stupid american idiots again

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                                      • Corleone
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                                        • Apr 2003
                                        • 15262

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by punkworld
                                        For those idiots who think Europe isn't more free than the US: I live in a country where I can legally fuck hookers while smoking pot and watching beast porn

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                                        • Jakke PNG
                                          ex-TeenGodFather
                                          • Nov 2001
                                          • 20306

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Chief

                                          These same laws apply in many other European countries. And are not limited to these fields alone. Immigration, race, history (Holocaust, etc) are other fields that are now limited to only certain types of speech across much of Europe
                                          Immigration? So I can just move to USA? No?

                                          Race? All races are equal in the US? HAhahaha..

                                          History? Atleast europe has one. Holocaust? True, it's horrible..but so is slavery in the usa. Nobody's perfect.

                                          Freedom of speech is MUCH more liberal in europe than in the usa. It's true.

                                          Usa = much more religious and conservative than europe.

                                          Of course, I'm not saying europe is better, but it IS more liberal. Some consider it better, some don't.. but that's the way it is.
                                          ..and I'm off.

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                                          • MaDalton
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Chief
                                            For a start I am not from the US. Secondly would you like me to list the countries with similar laws?

                                            NORWAY,
                                            GERMANY,
                                            SWEDEN,
                                            BRITIAN,
                                            etc etc etc

                                            Some of these laws are not wholly specific to homosexuality alone, but about similar such issues. Furthermore the EU promotes such laws wholeheartedly, so I think it is a fair call.
                                            huh? bullshit.
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                                            • AdultMovies.bz
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                                              • Apr 2003
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                                              #23
                                              Any country is free compared to US, now turn your puter off before Bush imposes a new curfew preventing you from talking on adult chat boards hehe
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                                              • Brown Bear
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                                                #24
                                                My country is better than your country.
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                                                • Manowar
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                                                  • Dec 2003
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by ironlung
                                                  france is just 1 of the many countries in europe
                                                  Britain is doing that kind of thing too.

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                                                  • Mr Dickovitch
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                                                    • Jul 2004
                                                    • 1070

                                                    #26
                                                    The UK is making a similar law so you can't say anything bad about Muslims because it could hurt their feelings. I guess when they are under Islamic law in 50 years they will wish that law didn't go through.

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                                                    • groark
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                                                      • Nov 2003
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by ironlung
                                                      france is just 1 of the many countries in europe
                                                      Rite!

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                                                      • Theo
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                                                        • May 2001
                                                        • 34515

                                                        #28
                                                        USA is more free

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                                                        • chemicaleyes
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by TeenGodFather
                                                          Immigration? So I can just move to USA? No?

                                                          Race? All races are equal in the US? HAhahaha..

                                                          History? Atleast europe has one. Holocaust? True, it's horrible..but so is slavery in the usa. Nobody's perfect.

                                                          Freedom of speech is MUCH more liberal in europe than in the usa. It's true.

                                                          Usa = much more religious and conservative than europe.

                                                          Of course, I'm not saying europe is better, but it IS more liberal. Some consider it better, some don't.. but that's the way it is.
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                                                          • chemicaleyes
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                            USA is more free
                                                            lol
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                                                            • Matt_WildCash
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                                                              • Jan 2003
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                                                              #31
                                                              1 year for calling someone a pillow biter.

                                                              These stupid nations that give our 1 year jail sentences for the smallest crimes are just insane

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                                                              • FreeOnes
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                                                                #32
                                                                france is just 1 of the many countries in europe

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                                                                • Jakke PNG
                                                                  ex-TeenGodFather
                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                  • 20306

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Driven
                                                                  1 year for calling someone a pillow biter.

                                                                  These stupid nations that give our 1 year jail sentences for the smallest crimes are just insane
                                                                  Are you talking about usa?

                                                                  As.. usa is the last country on earth to call other countries legal system insane.
                                                                  ..and I'm off.

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                                                                  • jimmyf
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                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                    • 12651

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by punkworld
                                                                    For those idiots who think Europe isn't more free than the US: I live in a country where I can legally fuck hookers while smoking pot and watching beast porn
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                                                                    • jimmyf
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                                                                      • Feb 2001
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by TeenGodFather
                                                                      Immigration? So I can just move to USA? No?

                                                                      Race? All races are equal in the US? HAhahaha..

                                                                      History? Atleast europe has one. Holocaust? True, it's horrible..but so is slavery in the usa. Nobody's perfect.

                                                                      Freedom of speech is MUCH more liberal in europe than in the usa. It's true.

                                                                      Usa = much more religious and conservative than europe.

                                                                      Of course, I'm not saying europe is better, but it IS more liberal. Some consider it better, some don't.. but that's the way it is.
                                                                      yep it is more liberal, of course they have had a few more years 2 work on it i would say.
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                                                                      • Raf1
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by punkworld
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                                                                        • sacX
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Australian press freedom ranking plummets

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                                                                          • Michaelious
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                                                                            • Jan 2004
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            If I'm correct they are trying to do something similar over here about religious and homophobic jokes in Britain.

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