Yes I think now after reading up and finding more about that, why do you feel we should give you special treatment?

I posted a statement, actually a press release, on the board back then because their were untrue accusations being made about my business and I felt the need. A model broke her contract with me , cost me money and because I enforced my contract, she made up reasons and excuses that were untrue. End of story....

Ivy

"We" ? :1orglaugh

Dude I am just stating the obvious, thats all. And she replied :glugglug

It's not special treatment... it's common courtesy and more than that, because I actually was an affiliate it is professional courtesy. Instead of a quick email or ICQ to say hey, you can't use those thumbnails on your site or whatever, you come to the board with "Is PrivateIvy Stealing Your Content? "

Ivy

Thanks for the reply post. The thread hit a nerve and I went off a bit and off topic. The exits argument could go on for ever, you are right.. MP links have been back for awhile. Call it burried!

Looks like all is being resolved between the parties. Ok, a little tense. That's the way it happens sometimes.

High respect for Ivy still intact. I see the logic she used and it is resolved now. Drama good for GFY post count. Ivy makes a good point about resolving things off the boards when possible.

Thanks for the support :winkwink:

For the record, after reading more of this thread that I missed because I was out all evening, my members area is NOT made up of tons of sponsor content. I have over 10,000 images of myself, over 100 of my own videos, my live camshows, etc. etc.

My "Girlfriends" section started in 2002 doing girlfriend gallery exchanges with other models ( you know they feature me to their members, I feature them) It worked really well and when I ran out of time to seek out new trades, I started using sponsor content and conversions were awesome. Until today, I didn't realize how large that section had gotten , LOL and have actually just finished removing all the older galleries.

My own content is what dominates my members area, having been updated weekly since 2002, and that is why my members stay with me and my affiliates enjoy awesome rebills.

And now, I'm done with the drama LOL .... I should have crashed an hour ago , but I'm climbing into bed now so you guys can drama by yourselves :Graucho

Ivy

actually, on GFY someone else came and posted it, mailman had nothing to do with the initial posting here on GFY...

..:eek7

and you only let me see like 6 of them?

how dare you:Graucho

ahhh...but actually, they joined my site, they saw the ref code in my members area that linked to their site to show I was an affiliate , they had an issue, but instead of contacting me , they took it to the boards :2 cents:


Ivy

There it is.. thank you! :)

People always seem to over look that fact with drama threads of WHO started it...

and PlatinumPimp when I said "WE" I was not talking about you and me I was talking about MP and WE as a company.

You know I'm saving a very special "Private" collection just for you :Graucho


Ivy

:Graucho call me :Graucho

Nice responce... :1orglaugh

This has something to do with you and your site and now after claiming "Until today, I didn't realize how large that section had gotten" this is a total cop out...

Pretty lame...

I was supposed to crash and turn this machine off 2 posts ago :winkwink:

Since you say you've only seen 6...here's a special one, just shot last week :Graucho

And I really am getting ready to go to bed !

Nightie Night .....

Ivy

http://www.privateivy.com/pix/Forums...lknerYahoo.jpg

Ahhh how nice your trying to make it a happy thread...

go make another thread to post your pictures in!

Affiliate programs should have specific rules about this because it really is a goldmine. It gives people with small paysites the ability to add oodles of free content for members and it will benefit both parties. Obviously the program giving away the free content has got paying customers looking at their shit, and that can only be good.

But obviously it can be abused. If someone puts up 100 pics and has a tiny text link at the bottom of the page, well then, that's no good, is it?

However, if you make a rule like.. 1 prominent link for every 10 pictures, or 15 pictures, etc. Could work out really well.

Of course, permission should always be required.

Perfect... Im glad thats done with man!

Like I said contact me if you are looking for tip or tools to promote and get better ratios Im here about 24 hours a day!

:thumbsup

Ivy, can't you admit that you cheated and got call on it? :glugglug

Well thats about it... we tried to be diffrent and people loved us for it and others just abused teh shit out of it and now when we find someone who we would have assumed knowed better doing wrong we are basicly forced to change it.. shame really but we will still make sure our good webmasters who send more then 50 clicks in a span of 8 months :glugglug can get hooked up with the good stuff.

http://www.privateivy.com/pix/Forums...lknerYahoo.jpg

http://xs6.xs.to/pics/04500/spooge.gif

well said, and that is exactly how it shoudl be

If I was planning on working with sponsor content in my members area it would work out perfectly...I use sitedepth.com with the upsell banners activated....and each gallery only shows 20 images per page with the upsell banner on top and bottom....so, that would be a perfect scenario for this type of situation

That's my same reaction. Ivy is soooo hot.:thumbsup

back up... she is mine:Graucho

exactly

I would also add:
there really isn't anything wrong with upselling a member to another site because believe it or not, some surfers will be members at more than one site at a time...

I had a friend who used to be an avid porn site fan (quite a time before TGP's and all the free content available now) and he would often have memberships to 3-4 sites at a time. The reason? some had content the others didn't have.

Think of it this way: you have a specialized site dedicated to ebony women and that's pretty much all you have in your site and it's exclusive content, why not offer another site ina different niche to your members? They might not only keep recurring for you for your exclusive ebony content, but might also stick around to that latina site or anal site you upsold them to.

If you have a great site with loyal members, why not use that trust and recomend other non-competing sites to them?

I do agree 100 pics for one tiny text link would be a slap in the face, but a gallery of 20-25 pics with a prominent link shouldn't be much of a problem, but that should be a sponsor's call.

Bottom line: keep in constant contact with your sponsors.

Wow...another naked pic of Ivy...

I guess seeing a nude picture will make me forget that your member area lacks. :glugglug

No hon.. what I mean by childish is that you are so reluctant to just admit you were wrong and apologize.

You say you weren't aware it was stealing to use the thumbnails on your tour. Ok, maybe you didn't know.. but it was up to you to find out what the TOS were.. you were wrong not to do that.. and when you're called on it, you make up all these excuses.. that's the part I found childish.

Nobody's going to hate you for doing something wrong.. but if you don't at least own up to it.. it'll tarnish your reputation for sure.

And you know what else Ivy? I like you.. otherwise I wouldn't spend the time explaining what I meant.

The obvious solution is to watermark (stamp your url on 'em) any content you give away free :)

It isn't rocketscience

I just read this entire thread, it's 4AM on a SUNDAY morning. I think you owe me and the other thread readers some eyecandy now. :Graucho

offtopic: Didn't PI pull some sneaky backstabbing styled shit on another Miss GFY girl? Correct me if i'm wrong, but I remember this.

IVY: I understand where you stand in your last post, but who the hell snags the ENTIRE set and pushes it as his/her own? Then you drop a tiny ass banner at the bottom, which is somehow suppose to "convert" lol
You run your own set of sites, dont act dumb. The stupid/clueless act wont cut it.

It must be nice to be a female webmaster. Even when you get caught with your hand in the cookie jar, all you have to do is post a few pics of yourself naked and half the sheep forget what we were even discussing in the first place. :thumbsup

huh ? what are you talking about ? ? didnt you start bashing here about this without contacting her on your own board ? ? how could the topic starter know of this if you hadn't posted it on the boards ?? ?


:2 cents:

idiot, what are you talking about ? you are a waste of space

:(

wow, glad you quoted all the images, instead of just one

lol..
nice topic

I bet he did not even read the thread :helpme

MP's content IS exclusive, you twit. They shoot pretty much all their own, and what they don't shoot is exclusive. Remove head from ass. Smash head into wall. Reinsert head in ass.

Can I use YOUR content in a tour for my site?

He had nothign to do with the thread... Someone else not even associated with mp (other than posting on their board) did. How does that make it them?

did you actually read the post you quoted ? ? she clearly states that other people have been doing this to her content for years for promoting her and she is ok with that


hating bandwagon bitch

what are you talking about ? ? he was in this thread like right away , and posted a link to the thread HE started about this on his own board that PI doens't read


he started the drama by posting it on his own board without asking PI for some explanation first


if he didn't start that topic how would the topic starter here have known ? ?


face it ladybitch you are just hating here!

HKS is a troll, just ignore him

Well she is NOT usual in that, then. But I shoot content, and I tell you if this were my situation, a c and d would be issued, or prosecution would start, and the penalties for copyright infringement of this type start at $100,000 per image per use. I'm pretty sure if she simply would have asked someone at MP if she could use the content, it never would have been an issue. I'm not hating on Ivy personally, but she DID make a mistake, one that could have potentially seen her facing a court date. Better to have it done with and over here than in a courtroom, no?

Call me a hating bitch if you want, I call it like I see it. :) If I was HATING on Ivy though, one would think I could at least insult her once or twice.

What are you talking about? RICTOR started this thread, RICTOR posted the link. He has no association with MP whatsoever except he posts on their board now and then. Get a clue?

he's the kid with the mom who got called by several gfy members right :1orglaugh

and where did RICTOR get his info from ? ? ? and who was here like right away with a handy link to a thread HE started on HIS OWN BOARD ?? ?



huh ??

Right on :thumbsup :1orglaugh

7 th reply in this thread someone from MP comes with a link to their board bur quickly realises someone outsmarted them and edits the post

now tell me how they are neutral ?


yeah they did NOT ask Rictor to post that here

Pretty obvious that Ivy reads the board because she posted in the thread. However, I do believe if you notice at first, no site names were mentioned etc. I don't see anywhere in the initial posts at all.. Seems to me there was a fair bit of miscommunication, a lot of which could have been simply avoided by her asking permission to use the content. Chances are that she didn't realize people would have the issue they are because SHE doesn't, but her business model doesn't work for everyone. Chances are it was a complete oversight on her behalf, but I also believe that a program that spends tens of thousands of dollars on exclusive content should have the right to defend that, especially in the best interests of their other webmasters. Hopefully all parties can meet somewhere in the middle.

As I said before though, it could just as easily have ended up as litigation. It didn't, so chances are people can still make good by proferring apologies? If that's hating, cuff me :P

you changed your tone now ,

your first posts were 100% hating


MP should have contacted PI instead of taking it to the boards


they took it to the boards no one else

they took it to this board and no one else

asking a middle man to post it here makes you just as 'guilty'