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dcortez

12-11-2004 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$
Also, under the condition that (for whatever reason) our system can not read the IP at all or the're no relevent data for a particular IP - then it will literally default to the words "YOUR TOWN" or "YOUR CITY" ... this way at least the ad makes sense

For example: "Meet hot chicks in YOUR TOWN!"

:thumbsup

But how would you do that if it is not accurate?

Geo-IP give results for most IPs - wrong results in many cases.

How would you know if you have a good result or a bad result?

If YOU can tell that a geo-ip result is wrong, why can't it?

BTW: I've been using geo-ip for a very long time because it does have its uses, but I only resolve to Country and Canada/USA are combined into one so the problems with north american proxy (aol) users don't impact my success.

I'm sure in time better databases will be available.

It's a great idea, but it's not really new and I'm not sure why there is so much hype about it now all of a sudden.

-Dino

J$tyle$

12-11-2004 02:43 AM

dcortez

Re-read the post you just quoted above.

Re-read it S_L_O_W_L_Y

I already explained how

Re-read it a few times if you don't get it - the answer is there

:winkwink:

dcortez

12-11-2004 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by J$tyle$
dcortez

Re-read the post you just quoted above.

Re-read it S_L_O_W_L_Y

I already explained how

Re-read it a few times if you don't get it - the answer is there

:winkwink:

Sorry, I thought this was a discussion.

My bad.

-Dino

TheFrog

12-11-2004 10:22 AM

good stuff :thumbsup

J$tyle$

12-11-2004 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dcortez
Sorry, I thought this was a discussion.

My bad.

-Dino

It is, but the anwer was right there for you

No need for me to repeat myself when the answer is there in plain sight, right?

:winkwink:

... and we can discuss as much as you want - I'm opinion to your opinion or any facts you wasnt to share. It's why I started this thread.

:thumbsup

The Other Steve

12-11-2004 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dcortez
Sorry, but the '70% ok, 30% not ok is good enough' reasoning does not work for all of us.

This is akin to the popup rationale which suggests that unless a surfer signs up, their experience of your site is irrelevent.

Some of us don't necessarily just funnel our surfers through corrals until they sign up or get lost.

There is no question that acurrate recognition of a surfer's location and geo-sensitive content can be very effective.

But, some sites actually host to communities of surfers who recognize quality of experience and when a site says 'look how sharp our technology is' 70% of the time and 'look at how stupid we are' 30% of the time, that ratio might not be worth the negative impact.

For a 'tag em and bag site' even 50/50 is ok, but I'd like to see at least 90% accuracy before I start tell the other 10% of my market that my technology sucks.

As I understand, there are accurate databases available but they cost real money. This may not even be an issue about using geo-ip, it may be an issue about using the free databases for geo-ip.

:2 cents:

-Dino

BTW: geo-ip gives me the wrong city, wrong state, and wrong country

The solution for you is simple - just don't use those geo-targeted ads.

J$tyle$

12-11-2004 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Other Steve
The solution for you is simple - just don't use those geo-targeted ads.

where were you last night?

you could have saved me a lot of typing!

I'm going to quote this post from now on - over and over again!

LOL

OzMan

12-11-2004 12:33 PM

This thread gets my vote for the thread having the most people that don't read before they post. Props to J$tyle$ for your patience :1orglaugh

Unless you REALLY think that you have a high percentage of return visitors that will never come back if you get their town wrong, give it a shot for a week and see rather than basing it on whether it got YOU correct.

J$tyle$

12-11-2004 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by OzMan
This thread gets my vote for the thread having the most people that don't read before they post. Props to J$tyle$ for your patience :1orglaugh

Unless you REALLY think that you have a high percentage of return visitors that will never come back if you get their town wrong, give it a shot for a week and see rather than basing it on whether it got YOU correct.

Thanks, brotha!

... and very well said!

:thumbsup

Sosa	12-11-2004 07:34 PM

lookin good

Donny

12-11-2004 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sandman!
too bad your database is not too good.
Your way off on my ip and i live in a major city.

I live in Chico, California. If I read an ad that got my location wrong (let's say it said "Special offer for people from San Francisco, California) I'd think to myself, "Hey, what is this special deal they get that I can't have???" and I'd click the fucking link.

Mission accomplished either way.

J$tyle$

12-11-2004 08:22 PM

Always knew you were a smart man, Donovan!

:winkwink:

Newton - XXXAmigoz

12-13-2004 12:18 PM

Truly delightful .. It will generate a lot of interest and returns .. :thumbsup

Dalai lama

12-13-2004 12:21 PM

smitshoek ?

i dont even know that city..

Pornkings

12-13-2004 12:24 PM

Jono to much to read call me when you have time.

I'm always down for increasing rev.

Rich	12-13-2004 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FredIsMe
hey i'm from London, London Canada! What deal do I get?

well, it works.

cherrylula

12-13-2004 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
I live in Chico, California. If I read an ad that got my location wrong (let's say it said "Special offer for people from San Francisco, California) I'd think to myself, "Hey, what is this special deal they get that I can't have???" and I'd click the fucking link.

Mission accomplished either way.

And there are people who have traveled thousands of miles to hook up with ass they met online.

Even if it is an hour away, or 4 hours away, people seriously looking for ass online won't let a few hours drive get in their way.

I have a girlfriend who busted her guy searching google for local girls, and he was searching san bernardino county which is rather large and has many cities. :1orglaugh

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