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czarina · 12-10-2004, 06:43 PM

I posted earlier, but haven't gotten anything... Please, help! I need a quote asap!
here is my original post:
Hello guys!

I am looking to build a database for my mainstream business with 6 or 7 inter-related tables, each table with about 8 fields.
Some of those fields will be like an "option", registering if the info in it is "category a" "category b", c, d, etc...
Then it needs to calculate at the bottom how many are category a, how many category b, ect.

It needs to have search capabilities.
And it needs the following accessories:
-Calendar
-Calculator
-Post-it Notes with alarm
-Agenda of pending "contracts" with alarm and daily report on those contracts
-Amount in the bank (not really a bank, but there will be a field where we enter which contracts we have been paid for, and how much, and I need it to add up how much money has been entered into the system).

This database needs to be accessed via online and also needs to be able to reside on some desktops when there is no internet access in the area that the person is at.

I need a time frame, and a quote for this. Thanx!

Contact me via email or icq.
email: sales at housewivescash.com
icq: 276-592-701

Czarina

NBDesign · 12-10-2004, 06:47 PM

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RefaStud · 12-10-2004, 06:54 PM

What you really need is not just a DB but an application to go with it. The problem is, you want a DB to reside on a desktop when no internet connection is present. Fine, but how do you plan on updating the main database when changes have been made on the database with no connection. Also what program is going to run on the desktop when no internet is present.

Seems what you need is an mysql version that will run on windows, an app that can connect to it, and a way to sync the databases. does this seem about right?

grumpy · 12-10-2004, 06:54 PM

i send you an icq

czarina · 12-10-2004, 07:07 PM

to begin with, it needs to reside in just 1 computer, until the website is up and running. Once the website is ready, then we would plug it into the server, so several people could access it.
But while it is just on the desktop, it doesn't need to be accessed by anybody else. It is just for the secretary to start working on it and entering the info until the site is up and running.

NBDesign · 12-10-2004, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by RefaStud
What you really need is not just a DB but an application to go with it. The problem is, you want a DB to reside on a desktop when no internet connection is present. Fine, but how do you plan on updating the main database when changes have been made on the database with no connection. Also what program is going to run on the desktop when no internet is present.

Seems what you need is an mysql version that will run on windows, an app that can connect to it, and a way to sync the databases. does this seem about right?

Well if you use access, you can make it so that any updates that you do local can be uploaded to the server database.

But yes, you will need programming either way you look at it.

czarina · 12-10-2004, 08:11 PM

the problem with access is that it doesn't have the post-it notes or the calendar.

I'd rather go with something better than access anyway

Robx · 12-10-2004, 08:15 PM

This looks like a pretty big job.

>> to begin with, it needs to reside in just 1 computer,
>> until the website is up and running.

Plan for tomorrow. Make sure that it is built with your webserver in mind. Do you currently have a Windows or Linux server? If it's Linux, you'll likely want a MySQL database with a PHP frontend programmed from the start.

If it was me, I might recommend putting a small, cheap server in your office so that you have total control over it and then serving the files from there.

Also, whoever programs it for you, make sure that they write nice clean code with ALOT of comments. I'd imagine that you'll want some features added in the future and chances are that the programmer you hire now, won't be around when you need a new feature. It takes a programmer twice as long to debug code from someone else and sometimes longer to add a feature without any bugs.

Last, I would heavily stress test this application. The last thing that you need is to have it go down or slow when you're trying to do some accounting or something.

Just some ideas. Hope they help. Good luck.

jimmyf · 12-10-2004, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by czarina
the problem with access is that it doesn't have the post-it notes or the calendar.

I'd rather go with something better than access anyway

I've seen some very large and powerful app's built with Access.

What you want, you will still need some programing, like the person above said.

when you start giving more than one person access 2 fields and records at the same time, better get a pretty good programer also.

not a piece of cake.

jimmyf · 12-10-2004, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by jimmyf
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czarina · 12-10-2004, 09:40 PM

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giving more than one person access 2 fields and records at the same time

that can be solved by not allowing more than one person to log into the system at one time. Since they will be accessing the system via the website, that can be solved (the access by just one person at a time) with some PHP, so that wouldn't be an issue. I can do that... doing the database is what is out of my reach

venturi · 12-11-2004, 12:16 AM

JimmyF, unless they (MS) have done some very extensive work on Access, it can't handle more than about 250 concurrent users or requests before it lays down and dies.

php/mySQL is likely what he needs, but this is indeed a hefty request and not cheap (unless he hires Indian or eastern Europe programmers). Problem with that is they are notoriously sloppy in their code and can't document the instructions to open a paper bag. Don't get me wrong, there are good programmers in those countries - but my years of experience makes me gunshy as they tend to not think/program in a linear fashion.

It's an interesting project, and I'd be more than willing to take it on but unless he's got some slack in his schedule I'm just too busy right now to take it on and be fair to him on delivery.

If mid/late January works then I could accept this gig.

Regardless, it's a $3K to $5K gig based on what's posted for requirements, and it's going to be a royal pain to implement without a working webserver to build and test.

czarina · 12-11-2004, 11:28 AM

venturi:
A time-frame of 1 month is not really a problem.
I like the idea of having it in Mysql and PHP...

Please contact me so we can talk about it.

Regards!

Czarina

Lifer II · 12-11-2004, 12:14 PM

Hi:

I won't do it, and I don't kow if you found someone that will.

Email me and I will tell you a programmer that might can do it for you.

He's professional and has worked with this stuff for over 20 years which is a long time in this business.

[email protected]

12-10-2004, 06:43 PM	#1
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	Come on guys! I need this database built. How much would you charge me? I posted earlier, but haven't gotten anything... Please, help! I need a quote asap! here is my original post: Hello guys! I am looking to build a database for my mainstream business with 6 or 7 inter-related tables, each table with about 8 fields. Some of those fields will be like an "option", registering if the info in it is "category a" "category b", c, d, etc... Then it needs to calculate at the bottom how many are category a, how many category b, ect. It needs to have search capabilities. And it needs the following accessories: -Calendar -Calculator -Post-it Notes with alarm -Agenda of pending "contracts" with alarm and daily report on those contracts -Amount in the bank (not really a bank, but there will be a field where we enter which contracts we have been paid for, and how much, and I need it to add up how much money has been entered into the system). This database needs to be accessed via online and also needs to be able to reside on some desktops when there is no internet access in the area that the person is at. I need a time frame, and a quote for this. Thanx! Contact me via email or icq. email: sales at housewivescash.com icq: 276-592-701 Czarina

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venturi Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: An Oasis atop a High Desert Mesa Posts: 386	JimmyF, unless they (MS) have done some very extensive work on Access, it can't handle more than about 250 concurrent users or requests before it lays down and dies. php/mySQL is likely what he needs, but this is indeed a hefty request and not cheap (unless he hires Indian or eastern Europe programmers). Problem with that is they are notoriously sloppy in their code and can't document the instructions to open a paper bag. Don't get me wrong, there are good programmers in those countries - but my years of experience makes me gunshy as they tend to not think/program in a linear fashion. It's an interesting project, and I'd be more than willing to take it on but unless he's got some slack in his schedule I'm just too busy right now to take it on and be fair to him on delivery. If mid/late January works then I could accept this gig. Regardless, it's a $3K to $5K gig based on what's posted for requirements, and it's going to be a royal pain to implement without a working webserver to build and test. __________________ I'm not a porn monger. I'm a porn ... STYLIST! Buildit Cheap, build it Fast, Build it Right. - Pick Two.

12-10-2004, 06:54 PM	#3
RefaStud Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 183	What you really need is not just a DB but an application to go with it. The problem is, you want a DB to reside on a desktop when no internet connection is present. Fine, but how do you plan on updating the main database when changes have been made on the database with no connection. Also what program is going to run on the desktop when no internet is present. Seems what you need is an mysql version that will run on windows, an app that can connect to it, and a way to sync the databases. does this seem about right?

12-10-2004, 07:07 PM	#5
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	to begin with, it needs to reside in just 1 computer, until the website is up and running. Once the website is ready, then we would plug it into the server, so several people could access it. But while it is just on the desktop, it doesn't need to be accessed by anybody else. It is just for the secretary to start working on it and entering the info until the site is up and running.

12-10-2004, 08:11 PM	#7
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	the problem with access is that it doesn't have the post-it notes or the calendar. I'd rather go with something better than access anyway

12-10-2004, 08:15 PM	#8
Robx Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The middle of nowhere Posts: 357	This looks like a pretty big job. >> to begin with, it needs to reside in just 1 computer, >> until the website is up and running. Plan for tomorrow. Make sure that it is built with your webserver in mind. Do you currently have a Windows or Linux server? If it's Linux, you'll likely want a MySQL database with a PHP frontend programmed from the start. If it was me, I might recommend putting a small, cheap server in your office so that you have total control over it and then serving the files from there. Also, whoever programs it for you, make sure that they write nice clean code with ALOT of comments. I'd imagine that you'll want some features added in the future and chances are that the programmer you hire now, won't be around when you need a new feature. It takes a programmer twice as long to debug code from someone else and sometimes longer to add a feature without any bugs. Last, I would heavily stress test this application. The last thing that you need is to have it go down or slow when you're trying to do some accounting or something. Just some ideas. Hope they help. Good luck.

12-11-2004, 11:28 AM	#13
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,748	venturi: A time-frame of 1 month is not really a problem. I like the idea of having it in Mysql and PHP... Please contact me so we can talk about it. Regards! Czarina

12-11-2004, 12:14 PM	#14
Lifer II Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: On the Edge Posts: 8	Hi: I won't do it, and I don't kow if you found someone that will. Email me and I will tell you a programmer that might can do it for you. He's professional and has worked with this stuff for over 20 years which is a long time in this business. [email protected]