Solo girl sites - different audiences? - GoFuckYourself.com

polish_aristocrat · 12-08-2004, 07:32 PM

Do you think people who join solo girl sites are a completely specific group, or are some of them surfers who expect hardcore inside the members area and then they get dissapointed since the only action they see is Tawnee Stone kissing Jordan Capri?

PerfectionGirls · 12-08-2004, 07:39 PM

Its an audiences, mostly guys looking for some sort of online relationship. All you need to do is moderate a live cam chat in one of the solo sites to understand.

Some may love the girl and sign up just for her looks, but its pretty safe to say that solo site traffic is pretty close to the same traffic as one might send to a dating site.

My experience is, that once a girl does hardcore in her solo site, the mystery is gone and retention and interest will drop. Its all about the tease with solo sites.

Just my .02

korzon · 12-08-2004, 07:40 PM

they can be all of those

polish_aristocrat · 12-08-2004, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Its an audiences, mostly guys looking for some sort of online relationship. All you need to do is moderate a live cam chat in one of the solo sites to understand.

Some may love the girl and sign up just for her looks, but its pretty safe to say that solo site traffic is pretty close to the same traffic as one might send to a dating site.

My experience is, that once a girl does hardcore in her solo site, the mystery is gone and retention and interest will drop. Its all about the tease with solo sites.

Just my .02

Thanks for the perfect reply

But on the other hand, there are solo girl sites like f.e. www.christineyoung.com - and she does real hardcore....so do you think that simply different surfers join such site?

polish_aristocrat · 12-08-2004, 08:30 PM

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polish_aristocrat · 12-09-2004, 06:28 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
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Olix · 12-09-2004, 06:37 AM

I think you have them both.
Some are expecting hardcore.
Others are like PerfectionGirls told already.

PerfectionGirls · 12-09-2004, 07:50 AM

To answer your question on Christina Young. We use her on our exits to capture some of the hardcore traffic that might find its way to our softer sites. When we filter her with our softer solo site traffic she rocks, but when we put her on our tgps, mixed with our solo site galleries, she does not do nearly as well. So, we have concluded that she does a ton better on with teen hardcore traffic then pure solo site traffic. Its a great site though.

Make sense?

PrivateIvy · 12-09-2004, 07:57 AM

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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
Its an audiences, mostly guys looking for some sort of online relationship. All you need to do is moderate a live cam chat in one of the solo sites to understand.

Some may love the girl and sign up just for her looks, but its pretty safe to say that solo site traffic is pretty close to the same traffic as one might send to a dating site.

My experience is, that once a girl does hardcore in her solo site, the mystery is gone and retention and interest will drop. Its all about the tease with solo sites.

Just my .02

I agree with most of that.... the "fan" audience is very different, but then again that's not 100% of the surfers that join solo girl sites.

I disagree on the hardcore theory .... Before I released my hardcore boy/girl sets, I had many members begging for it. I even had an email once that asked me if I really was a lesbian since they only ever saw me with other girls

I slowly began to release boy/girl sets from softcore up to hardcore and they loved it. I didn't lose members and actually my site then started converting more hardcore traffic.

So yea, the "fan" type traffic is a large majority for solo girl sites , but really I think it depends on the girl too.....

Ivy

PerfectionGirls · 12-09-2004, 08:10 AM

I dont disagree with you at all Ivy. I think nearly every solo site is different and since we (perfectioncash) play the cute, innocent teen roll, once we have gone HC with her, we can never go back... innocents lost so to speak. Hardcore killed one of our solo sites once we introduced it. Girl, girl stuff yes, but boy girl stuff just didnt fly with our surfers.

If does open your traffic options like you mentioned for sure, but the true, diehard teen, solo site surfer is looking for a site somewhere between NN and soft, cute content. Thats been our experience anyways. Notice I said "teen solo site surfer". We are pretty specific on the content of our sites.

Interesting remarks though.... great thread.

MandyBlake · 12-09-2004, 08:49 AM

I know that some will join expecting to see hardcore guy/girl stuff inside. I get those people all the time. They write me saying that they want to cancel because there is no guy/girl. I write them back and say sure I'll cancel your membership, but I never said anywhere on my free preview that there was guy girl. You won't find a picture of me and a naked guy anywhere.
It's annoying!

Vanilla DeVille · 12-09-2004, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by PrivateIvy
I agree with most of that.... the "fan" audience is very different, but then again that's not 100% of the surfers that join solo girl sites.

I disagree on the hardcore theory .... Before I released my hardcore boy/girl sets, I had many members begging for it. I even had an email once that asked me if I really was a lesbian since they only ever saw me with other girls

Ivy

I agree with you, Ivy... once I added hardcore to my site, my sales jumped and retention is better than ever!

polish_aristocrat · 12-09-2004, 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by MandyBlake
I know that some will join expecting to see hardcore guy/girl stuff inside. I get those people all the time. They write me saying that they want to cancel because there is no guy/girl. I write them back and say sure I'll cancel your membership, but I never said anywhere on my free preview that there was guy girl. You won't find a picture of me and a naked guy anywhere.
It's annoying!

Yes, this is exactly what makes me worried.

I am also going to enter the cute, innocent solo teen girl niche and I've been told to avoid hardcore, and PerfectionGirls confirmed it.

But then again, if the member pays full price ( i dont' want to offer trials, so he will pay $29 ) and then he doesnt see any hardcore inside, he might get disappointed and ask for a return or charge back...

12-08-2004, 07:32 PM	#1
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	Solo girl sites - different audiences? Do you think people who join solo girl sites are a completely specific group, or are some of them surfers who expect hardcore inside the members area and then they get dissapointed since the only action they see is Tawnee Stone kissing Jordan Capri? __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

12-08-2004, 07:39 PM	#2
PerfectionGirls Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MI Posts: 4,484	Its an audiences, mostly guys looking for some sort of online relationship. All you need to do is moderate a live cam chat in one of the solo sites to understand. Some may love the girl and sign up just for her looks, but its pretty safe to say that solo site traffic is pretty close to the same traffic as one might send to a dating site. My experience is, that once a girl does hardcore in her solo site, the mystery is gone and retention and interest will drop. Its all about the tease with solo sites. Just my .02 __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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12-09-2004, 07:50 AM	#8
PerfectionGirls Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MI Posts: 4,484	To answer your question on Christina Young. We use her on our exits to capture some of the hardcore traffic that might find its way to our softer sites. When we filter her with our softer solo site traffic she rocks, but when we put her on our tgps, mixed with our solo site galleries, she does not do nearly as well. So, we have concluded that she does a ton better on with teen hardcore traffic then pure solo site traffic. Its a great site though. Make sense? __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

12-09-2004, 08:10 AM	#10
PerfectionGirls Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MI Posts: 4,484	I dont disagree with you at all Ivy. I think nearly every solo site is different and since we (perfectioncash) play the cute, innocent teen roll, once we have gone HC with her, we can never go back... innocents lost so to speak. Hardcore killed one of our solo sites once we introduced it. Girl, girl stuff yes, but boy girl stuff just didnt fly with our surfers. If does open your traffic options like you mentioned for sure, but the true, diehard teen, solo site surfer is looking for a site somewhere between NN and soft, cute content. Thats been our experience anyways. Notice I said "teen solo site surfer". We are pretty specific on the content of our sites. Interesting remarks though.... great thread. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

12-09-2004, 08:49 AM	#11
MandyBlake The one and only! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 17,761	I know that some will join expecting to see hardcore guy/girl stuff inside. I get those people all the time. They write me saying that they want to cancel because there is no guy/girl. I write them back and say sure I'll cancel your membership, but I never said anywhere on my free preview that there was guy girl. You won't find a picture of me and a naked guy anywhere. It's annoying! __________________ Mandy's Playhouse Her First Fat Girl If you're interested in promoting my sites, ICQ me! 178411921