Atypical Monthly Revenues: Independent Designers - GoFuckYourself.com

FuckFind · 12-08-2004, 12:00 AM

Good Month, Bad Month? Mainstream, Adult, Mixed? Discuss.

FF

xxxoutsourcing · 12-08-2004, 12:01 AM

Always busy here and always adding more staff

DX · 12-08-2004, 12:02 AM

so many variables.

ps. fuck outsourcing.

FuckFind · 12-08-2004, 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by xxxoutsourcing
Always busy here and always adding more staff

you don't count stay outta this. I can hire sheep and say "oh well" to good service and turn profits but uhhhhhhhhhh ya i don't want your reputation lol.

FF

newbreed · 12-08-2004, 12:06 AM

See you Saturday?

BTW - Another record month for us...

newbreed · 12-08-2004, 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by xxxoutsourcing
Always busy here and always adding more staff

Any of the new staff speak Enlgish?

edit - FF you fucked up in your thread title, using the word "D*signer" sets off B-Tracker over at there place.

FuckFind · 12-08-2004, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by newbreed
See you Saturday?

BTW - Another record month for us...

Party is Thurs. night

FF

newbreed · 12-08-2004, 12:12 AM

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Originally posted by FuckFind
Party is Thurs. night

FF

Shit... Noted, made a mistake in my schedule...

edit - Answer ur AIM

FuckFind · 12-08-2004, 12:22 AM

so any designers out there going to throw in their 2c on this?

FF

DX · 12-08-2004, 12:31 AM

What do you want... actual numbers?

I don't think any real designer is going to cough that info up... at least accurately.

FuckFind · 12-08-2004, 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by DX
What do you want... actual numbers?

I don't think any real designer is going to cough that info up... at least accurately.

na just like a range, ya know?

FF

Jace · 12-08-2004, 12:36 AM

this has been one of my better months of the year actually...been busy for the last 12 days straight

even had the pleasure of working with dj airek on the latest thing...which was a fucking blast..

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-08-2004, 12:39 AM

Yeah please post some numbers folks.

I wanna hear how broke some of you designers are cuz your so fucken stupid it hurts.

DX · 12-08-2004, 12:42 AM

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Originally posted by FuckFind
na just like a range, ya know?

FF

been doing it for a little while now.. and i'm probably one of a few that have never had a live portfolio... plugged myself.. or shown many people my work.

there are good months... bad months.. really good months... and really bad months... in the end, if you keep the people writing the checks happy, you should come out ok.

how's that for a non-answer? : )

FuckFind · 12-08-2004, 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by DX
been doing it for a little while now.. and i'm probably one of a few that have never had a live portfolio... plugged myself.. or shown many people my work.

there are good months... bad months.. really good months... and really bad months... in the end, if you keep the people writing the checks happy, you should come out ok.

how's that for a non-answer? : )

haha i feel ya bro... i've been doing this for about 4-5 yrs now, but really devoted to it about a year ago.

Shower, brb.

FF

abyss_al · 12-08-2004, 02:19 AM

when i used to do it for fun back a year or so.. it was around 5-10k a month

thewebgarage · 12-08-2004, 02:22 AM

bump for outsourcing

Roald · 12-08-2004, 02:26 AM

This week is awesome sofar, had 2 slow weeks before this one, but that was due to me beeing offline and some personal issues I guess.

FuckFind · 12-08-2004, 02:35 AM

i know they vary, trust me lol..

but whats the "average".... 3k, 4k, 5k, 6k, 8k, 10k, 12k?

FF

Roald · 12-08-2004, 02:36 AM

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Originally posted by FuckFind
i know they vary, trust me lol..

but whats the "average".... 3k, 4k, 5k, 6k, 8k, 10k, 12k?

FF

It all depends ;)

abyss_al · 12-08-2004, 02:36 AM

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Originally posted by FuckFind
i know they vary, trust me lol..

but whats the "average".... 3k, 4k, 5k, 6k, 8k, 10k, 12k?

FF

i'd say 3-5k is average.

FuckFind · 12-08-2004, 02:38 AM

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Originally posted by QuaShe
It all depends ;)

hahahahaah ilove this so far, i'm fully aware of that.... just asking if you added up every month, divided by 12, what would the "average" be.....

FF

sextoyking · 12-08-2004, 02:40 AM

Do normal companies give out gross or net revenues in public??

LOL

Roald · 12-08-2004, 02:41 AM

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Originally posted by FuckFind
hahahahaah ilove this so far, i'm fully aware of that.... just asking if you added up every month, divided by 12, what would the "average" be.....

FF

Mostly every next month is a bit better, but there is a top ofcourse in how much you can handle and stuff like that.

Seriously why you want to know, try it yourslef and lets see if you are still doing it next year. It's a tough biz to be in specially with all the outsourcers and dirt cheap designers around ;)

FuckFind · 12-08-2004, 02:43 AM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
Do normal companies give out gross or net revenues in public?? LOL

ya, called income statement and balance sheet.

all in all i have just been wondering if i'm above the ave. below. the ave, etc. and where the atypically designer stands....

ESPECIALLY in relation to what our deveopment actually brings in, as far as I am concerned or can tell, the value we provide does not reflect the cash we inherit....

FF

sextoyking · 12-08-2004, 02:43 AM

Qua,

yep. Might be a ton of designers out there, but only a "few" companies that can produce high quality designs

FuckFind · 12-08-2004, 02:44 AM

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Originally posted by QuaShe
Mostly every next month is a bit better, but there is a top ofcourse in how much you can handle and stuff like that.

Seriously why you want to know, try it yourslef and lets see if you are still doing it next year. It's a tough biz to be in specially with all the outsourcers and dirt cheap designers around ;)

been designing, 4-5 yrs now.

FF

Doctor Dre · 12-08-2004, 02:45 AM

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Originally posted by xxxoutsourcing
Always busy here and always adding more staff

We care lesss

sextoyking · 12-08-2004, 02:45 AM

Income, balance sheet for public companies.

Private companies, sure the top execs have that info, accountants, etc..

Normal companies never share revenue figures with the public.

Roald · 12-08-2004, 02:45 AM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
Qua,

yep. Might be a ton of designers out there, but only a "few" companies that can produce high quality designs

indeed, thats why I am glad I have a lot of recurring clients ;)

@FF, than why do you ask? Trying to compare numbers?

FuckFind · 12-08-2004, 02:46 AM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
Income, balance sheet for public companies.

Private companies, sure the top execs have that info, accountants, etc..

Normal companies never share revenue figures with the public.

well ya, "normal" didn't imply anything though

. Ya I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers in the thread fellow homies was just curious of where everyone was at.

From what I've seen, people are just getting cheaper and cheaper....and that has done both good and bad for my company.

FF

FuckFind · 12-08-2004, 02:49 AM

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Originally posted by QuaShe
indeed, thats why I am glad I have a lot of recurring clients ;)

@FF, than why do you ask? Trying to compare numbers?

sure, i guess.

I know your damn established and have a lot of respect for ya Quash, overall just wanted to pose the thoughts to other designers and see where we all stood or even felt bout current pricing and whatnot

.

FF

sextoyking · 12-08-2004, 02:49 AM

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Originally posted by FuckFind
well ya, "normal" didn't imply anything though . Ya I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers in the thread fellow homies was just curious of where everyone was at.

From what I've seen, people are just getting cheaper and cheaper....and that has done both good and bad for my company.

FF

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No feathers messed up here, but it's like asking how much revenue ARS or another company makes in 1 month or 1 yr, no one is going to answer.

Not toot our horn, but I would be willing to bet that webinc.com is in the top '2' for design sales each month or yr.

But who really cares right?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 12-08-2004, 02:53 AM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
Do normal companies give out gross or net revenues in public?? LOL

Most designers are not even technically a company.

FuckFind · 12-08-2004, 02:53 AM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
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No feathers messed up here, but it's like asking how much revenue ARS or another company makes in 1 month or 1 yr, no one is going to answer.

Not toot our horn, but I would be willing to bet that webinc.com is in the top '2' for design sales each month or yr.

But who really cares right?

ya, i'd say them and dickmans.

and I def. care. if they are (1) first and foremost providing better service than I can provide, I damn well better be working day and night to get my service levels higher and higher, in terms of both quality and availability, and (2) if they are putting more cash in their pockets at the end of the day, then its more than worthwhile to observe their tactics to consume more market demand.

FF

sextoyking · 12-08-2004, 02:54 AM

Well Alien, might be true,

but if they are an s or c corp, or llc, etc, etc they are a company I suppose

Roald · 12-08-2004, 02:54 AM

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Originally posted by FuckFind
ya, i'd say them and dickmans.

and I def. care. if they are (1) first and foremost providing better service than I can provide, I damn well better be working day and night to get my service levels higher and higher, in terms of both quality and availability, and (2) if they are putting more cash in their pockets at the end of the day, then its more than worthwhile to observe their tactics to consume more market demand.

FF

I think there are a few more really big ones who are booked solid every month and who don't post on the boards

FuckFind · 12-08-2004, 02:55 AM

and I also was wondering more of "Independent Designers" who are totally on their own, but I'm not even really in that category anymore so I guess the thread will just evolve like always heh.

FF

FuckFind · 12-08-2004, 02:55 AM

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Originally posted by QuaShe
I think there are a few more really big ones who are booked solid every month and who don't post on the boards

ya, no doubt.

FF

FuckFind · 12-08-2004, 02:59 AM

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Originally posted by QuaShe
Mostly every next month is a bit better, but there is a top ofcourse in how much you can handle and stuff like that.

thats exactly what has been rolling around my thoughts. I'm overloaded, so hired, now STILL overloaded, but not making "more" than before...so not really stopped, just paused.... and reconfiguring.

FF

Roald · 12-08-2004, 03:43 AM

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Originally posted by FuckFind
thats exactly what has been rolling around my thoughts. I'm overloaded, so hired, now STILL overloaded, but not making "more" than before...so not really stopped, just paused.... and reconfiguring.

FF

well thats the problem you have as a independant designer, unless you are willing to hire an indian dude or something who can work for you for half the price you will have this problem.

Thats the exact same reason why I teamed up with the adullabel.com guys. To have something recurring and as an addition to my current income. Cause another problem is that when I break my arm and aren't able to work I don't make any money. So I am trying to expand and have that problem covered as much as possible

DX · 12-08-2004, 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by FuckFind
i know they vary, trust me lol..

but whats the "average".... 3k, 4k, 5k, 6k, 8k, 10k, 12k?

FF

Somewhere in there is probably a good guess...

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FuckFind Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,188	and I also was wondering more of "Independent Designers" who are totally on their own, but I'm not even really in that category anymore so I guess the thread will just evolve like always heh. FF