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sean416 · 12-04-2004, 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
That's fine and dandy and all, but concerts account to less than 9% of music industry revenue. This has and always been the case.

Wanna know who's making money, right now? Usher.

They were the best selling band in 2003, beating cold play, etc. Not to mention this is 30-35 years AFTER they're prime. So hence they have been making all this money all along. The fucking point is that because he has the right knowledge (business sense, etc) he can use it to make the most of his creativety. Meaning, creativity is important but knowledge is still important too. Meaning, before posting dumb ass threads like this do a little research.

bret · 12-04-2004, 08:14 PM

Industry yes. But it is almost 100% of the income most artists receive.

Napolean · 12-04-2004, 08:15 PM

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
Ojay.
This thread is kinda about the music biz n shit.

oh.. sorry

i still stand by my last sentence

The Apprentice · 12-04-2004, 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by sean416
They were the best selling band in 2003, beating cold play, etc. Not to mention this is 30-35 years AFTER they're prime. So hence they have been making all this money all along. The fucking point is that because he has the right knowledge (business sense, etc) he can use it to make the most of his creativety. Meaning, creativity is important but knowledge is still important too. Meaning, before posting dumb ass threads like this do a little research.

Ok, now your just blowing steam.
This is the industry I pay attention to. I can remember most all of Billboards 2003's stats and nowhere do I remember anything about the Rolling Stones.

Also, what category is "best selling band"? I've never heard of such a thing. sounds like your a big RS fan?

I specifically remember The Beatles #1's and 50 Cent hitting record highs of 2003.. WTF, man?

Btw, 2003 in widespead known as the "Queer year in music", it sucked that hard.

The Apprentice · 12-04-2004, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by bret
Industry yes. But it is almost 100% of the income most artists receive.

Until they have to pay back the Concert Tour Advance.

Suprisingly alot of artists dodge paying back these advances all the way to their death, as law states (and with the help of ASCAP) that record companies cannot recoup said advances from publishing royalties.

Casino Bills · 12-04-2004, 08:46 PM

My question is how does a site like www.hush-hush.com stay open? If you look at some of the pictures they have of girls on there web-cams you would swear some of them are 12 and 13 years old. And im not talking about a few pictures im talking about dozens of girls and thousands of pictures.

Im positive i have seen pictures from that site and there is no way in hell the girls are over 16. And if i remember correctly i seen a post about this same subject a long time ago where someone said they where not ingaged in sex so it makes it legeal to display the images and it was public domain content of something of that nature. I didnt understand it then and i dont now.

And hush-hush is not the only site like this, there are tons of them, some of them have direct links to yahoo groups that have pictures of girls on web-cams and once again you would swear they are underage.

Maybe this topic has been covered before, but if you see pictures of girls who you think are underage and on a paysite and they have no 2557's how do they stay open.

bret · 12-04-2004, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
Until they have to pay back the Concert Tour Advance.

Suprisingly alot of artists dodge paying back these advances all the way to their death, as law states (and with the help of ASCAP) that record companies cannot recoup said advances from publishing royalties.

That doesn't make any sense, income is income, what you choose to spend it on is irrelavent. Be it paying back advances, buying a house, or putting it in the bank, income is income.

aico · 12-04-2004, 08:52 PM

There's a great article in XBiz World about copyright infringement that you should read... basically you could be looking at up to $150,000 in Statutory Damages per work infringed, regardless if you made any money with it or not...

The Apprentice · 12-04-2004, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by Casino Bills
My question is how does a site like www.hush-hush.com stay open? If you look at some of the pictures they have of girls on there web-cams you would swear some of them are 12 and 13 years old. And im not talking about a few pictures im talking about dozens of girls and thousands of pictures.

Im positive i have seen pictures from that site and there is no way in hell the girls are over 16. And if i remember correctly i seen a post about this same subject a long time ago where someone said they where not ingaged in sex so it makes it legeal to display the images and it was public domain content of something of that nature. I didnt understand it then and i dont now.

And hush-hush is not the only site like this, there are tons of them, some of them have direct links to yahoo groups that have pictures of girls on web-cams and once again you would swear they are underage.

Maybe this topic has been covered before, but if you see pictures of girls who you think are underage and on a paysite and they have no 2557's how do they stay open.

Man, that's sick. I saw on girl... can't be over 16.

I also saw some amateur shower cam and voyuer pics, obviously not owned by anyone but the creep who snapped the shots.

I think are questions might be a little bit over GFY's expertise. Folks here, mostly deal with TGP's and mainstream porn.

sean416 · 12-04-2004, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
Ok, now your just blowing steam.
This is the industry I pay attention to. I can remember most all of Billboards 2003's stats and nowhere do I remember anything about the Rolling Stones.

Also, what category is "best selling band"? I've never heard of such a thing. sounds like your a big RS fan?

I specifically remember The Beatles #1's and 50 Cent hitting record highs of 2003.. WTF, man?

Btw, 2003 in widespead known as the "Queer year in music", it sucked that hard.

For the record, I am not a rolling stones fan. I dont hate their music, but I dont own any of their CD's or anything like that. I listen to hip hop, usher is one of my favorite R&B singers, but thats not the point of my analogy, it's not the point of this thread, and its just you changing the subject once again.

"Best selling band" means they made the most income. The band made more money then any other band in all of 2003. Yes, they made it from the procedes of their conerts, but I said that just to show you that even if it is only 9% or whatever you said, it still made them more money then a platinum album made any other band in 2003. I am only talking about bands, not hip hop artists or R&B singers. But the point is, that they are fucking rich because mcjagger used his knowledge to capitilize on his creativety. Thats the end of the storey. Don't nag me about the little things, see the big picture for once... ya might learn something!

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
My question is how does a site like www.hush-hush.com stay open?

From what I can tell, they aren't hosted in the US, they don't use a US processor and they dont live in the US, therefor US laws dont apply to them. They are governed by the local laws only. I dont know their local laws, so I can't comment on what the legal age of consent is. However they claim all models are over 16, so I would assume the local law for them is 16 years of age.

However, if you do come accross any sites that questionable, the best thing to do is to report them to http://www.asacp.org/ and they are a non-profit organization who looks into all sites submitted to them and if necessary, they report the to the local authorities.

Project-Shadow · 12-04-2004, 09:47 PM

ZOMG Ignore.

The Apprentice · 12-04-2004, 10:14 PM

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Originally posted by sean416

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Originally posted by The Apprentice

My question is how does a site like www.hush-hush.com stay open?

From what I can tell, they aren't hosted in the US, they don't use a US processor and they dont live in the US, therefor US laws dont apply to them. They are governed by the local laws only. I dont know their local laws, so I can't comment on what the legal age of consent is. However they claim all models are over 16, so I would assume the local law for them is 16 years of age.

However, if you do come accross any sites that questionable, the best thing to do is to report them to http://www.asacp.org/ and they are a non-profit organization who looks into all sites submitted to them and if necessary, they report the to the local authorities.

thanks for that info, but it wasn't my question.

Also, I couldn't narc them no matter how bad the content. It's against my religion.

sean416 · 12-04-2004, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by The Apprentice
thanks for that info, but it wasn't my question.

sorry, I forgot to switch who I was quoting. I knew it wasnt you who asked the question and meant to address Casino Bills with that reply.

12-04-2004, 08:14 PM	#52
bret Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: detroit Posts: 766	Industry yes. But it is almost 100% of the income most artists receive.

12-04-2004, 08:46 PM	#56
Casino Bills Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 102	My question is how does a site like www.hush-hush.com stay open? If you look at some of the pictures they have of girls on there web-cams you would swear some of them are 12 and 13 years old. And im not talking about a few pictures im talking about dozens of girls and thousands of pictures. Im positive i have seen pictures from that site and there is no way in hell the girls are over 16. And if i remember correctly i seen a post about this same subject a long time ago where someone said they where not ingaged in sex so it makes it legeal to display the images and it was public domain content of something of that nature. I didnt understand it then and i dont now. And hush-hush is not the only site like this, there are tons of them, some of them have direct links to yahoo groups that have pictures of girls on web-cams and once again you would swear they are underage. Maybe this topic has been covered before, but if you see pictures of girls who you think are underage and on a paysite and they have no 2557's how do they stay open.

12-04-2004, 08:52 PM	#58
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	There's a great article in XBiz World about copyright infringement that you should read... basically you could be looking at up to $150,000 in Statutory Damages per work infringed, regardless if you made any money with it or not...

12-04-2004, 09:47 PM	#61
Project-Shadow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,340	ZOMG Ignore.