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  • bigdog
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2001
    • 6964

    #1

    blackonblondes?

    any guys still pushing blackonblondes? do they still convert and retain well?
  • The_Oracle_Porn
    So Fucking Banned
    • Dec 2004
    • 563

    #2
    if you got the rigt traffic, theyr good.

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    • SomeCreep
      :glugglug
      • Mar 2003
      • 26118

      #3
      Eh, its hard to promote them when you cant see how much traffic you're sending and how it is converting.

      For those that dont know, they use raw epoch stats and you cant see hits/uniques or conversions. Just sales.

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      • bigdog
        Confirmed User
        • Jul 2001
        • 6964

        #4
        Originally posted by SomeCreep
        Eh, its hard to promote them when you cant see how much traffic you're sending and how it is converting.

        For those that dont know, they use raw epoch stats and you cant see hits/uniques or conversions. Just sales.
        you would think with all the money they have made they could afford a upgrade

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        • SomeCreep
          :glugglug
          • Mar 2003
          • 26118

          #5
          Originally posted by bigdog
          you would think with all the money they have made they could afford a upgrade
          From my experience, it seems they generate so much internal traffic, that they dont need affiliates. Hence, they dont put any priority into their affiliate program.

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          • bigdog
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2001
            • 6964

            #6
            Originally posted by SomeCreep
            From my experience, it seems they generate so much internal traffic, that they dont need affiliates. Hence, they dont put any priority into their affiliate program.
            Yeah you are proably right, but it doesn't take that much work to add a decent affilate script they are leaving money on the table

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            • detoxed
              vip member
              • Jan 2003
              • 17798

              #7
              Originally posted by bigdog
              Yeah you are proably right, but it doesn't take that much work to add a decent affilate script they are leaving money on the table

              Affiliates could actually dilute their traffic sources and cause them to generate less income from internal methods, decreasing profit but increasing sales.

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              • andrej_NDC
                Registered User
                • May 2004
                • 7760

                #8
                Originally posted by bigdog
                Yeah you are proably right, but it doesn't take that much work to add a decent affilate script they are leaving money on the table
                not really, real affiliates do not need tracking of their hits, they know the value of their traffic. If you make 5 sales per submitted gallery for example, who cares about clicks. If you make 10 sales on a SE site where all different sponsors make you 6 sales, who cares about clicks.

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                • RobD
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 687

                  #9
                  bob retains like a mofo
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                  • jimmyf
                    OU812
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 12651

                    #10
                    Originally posted by SomeCreep
                    Eh, its hard to promote them when you cant see how much traffic you're sending and how it is converting.

                    For those that dont know, they use raw epoch stats and you cant see hits/uniques or conversions. Just sales.
                    that's why I quit promoting them along time ago.
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                    • swoop
                      Confirmed User
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 3903

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jimmyf
                      that's why I quit promoting them along time ago.
                      Same. Will hand it to em and someone said it, they do retain very well.
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                      • tungsten
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 10579

                        #12
                        give them a try and see for yourself
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                        • Mefo
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2002
                          • 6169

                          #13
                          yup they still sell

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                          • bigdog
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jul 2001
                            • 6964

                            #14
                            Originally posted by andrej_NDC
                            not really, real affiliates do not need tracking of their hits, they know the value of their traffic. If you make 5 sales per submitted gallery for example, who cares about clicks. If you make 10 sales on a SE site where all different sponsors make you 6 sales, who cares about clicks.
                            still being able to track where sales are coming from is a large benefit

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                            • MandyBlake
                              The one and only!
                              • Nov 2002
                              • 17761

                              #15
                              i've noticed that with epoch stats on another affiliate program. the reason i'd like to know how many hits get there is to make sure i'm doing things right.
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                              • seven
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2002
                                • 2697

                                #16
                                Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                From my experience, it seems they generate so much internal traffic, that they dont need affiliates. Hence, they dont put any priority into their affiliate program.
                                Wrong. Where do you think his internal traffic comes from? I used to promote BOB bigtime and thou I still promote but hardly. Yes, his traffic tracking sucks big time. It's just php affiliate code carry on from page to page, no cookie is set and no ip matching for cookie disabled browsers so suppose surfer goes to join page and then just removes the page name including affiliate id to see what's on his root domain then gets back to join page and join and now that's becoming his internal traffic and you are not getting credit for that signup. Now, surfer visits his site then goes back to touring other sites 5 minutes later/an hour later/2 days later/1 week later/3 month later whatever types in blacksonblondes.com to get back to his site and now that traffic is his internal traffic and you don't get credit for that signup. I think almost 50% of tgp traffic don't join a site 1st time they visit they like to explore options before they pull out the CC so you lose about 50% of signups if you are pushing with tgp traffic unless some of them bookmarked bob with your code inserted in url.

                                That being said BOB used to convert really well once upon a time so promoting even when losing upto 50% signups (not very happily ofcourse.. shrug) was worth it. Now, the conversion is not so hot thou rebills are real good. I promoted BOB on hun for years but stopped couple years ago when BOB got cold for me but ofcourse that could've been just me so try and see for yourself maybe.
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                                • V_RocKs
                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                  • Nov 2003
                                  • 32467

                                  #17
                                  I have sold plenty black on blondes via a teen tgp and it retains VERY good!

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                                  • hova
                                    Traffillionaire
                                    • Jan 2002
                                    • 22430

                                    #18
                                    BOB retains very, very good
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                                    • dcortez
                                      DINO CORTEZ™
                                      • Jun 2003
                                      • 2145

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                      Eh, its hard to promote them when you cant see how much traffic you're sending and how it is converting.

                                      For those that dont know, they use raw epoch stats and you cant see hits/uniques or conversions. Just sales.
                                      That's the main reason, I don't send them any traffic. I need to verify and reconcile stats. Going a couple months without sales, just to realize that a link might not be structured correctly or working does not quite cut it.

                                      If I can't get traffic stats from a sponsor, it's too risky to send the traffic.

                                      Can they not afford the tech or the bandwidth?

                                      -Dino

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                                      • Cash
                                        Click on my TCG signature
                                        • Feb 2002
                                        • 20825

                                        #20
                                        That's why I dropped them, their epoch stats with no clicks, ref. urls, are BS ...
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