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  • broke
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2003
    • 4501

    #1

    You Euros aren't enraged about the latest UN scandal?

    UN Sex Abuse Scandal Gathers Momentum


    Linked in the past to sex crimes in East Timor, and prostitution in Cambodia and Kosovo, UN peacekeepers have now been accused of sexually abusing the very population they were deployed to protect in Congo.

    And while the 150 allegations of rape, pedophelia and solicitation in Congo may be the UN? worst sex scandal in years, chronic problems almost guarantee that few of the suspects will face serious punishment.

    The problem is simple: The UN often implores nations to discipline their peacekeepers, but it has little power to enforce the rules.

    And when nations are reluctant anyway to contribute soldiers for dangerous missions like Congo, it?s tough to turn the tables and shame them publicly.

    ?The UN goes around trying to cajole countries to provide peacekeepers,? said Edward Luck, a professor at Columbia University?s School of International and Public Affairs.

    ?They?re having a hard time getting any member states to respond, and that doesn?t give the UN a great deal of leverage in these kinds of situations.

    While thousands of UN peacekeepers have served without incident, some have been accused of smuggling weapons and exotic animals, selling fuel on the black market, vandalising aeroplanes, and standing by while mobs looted storefronts ? if they didn?t join in the chaos themselves.

    Other times their inaction led to even more grievous crimes, as when Dutch peacekeepers under a UN mandate didn?t stop Bosnian troops in the enclave of Srebrenica from loading Muslim men onto buses and taking them away to be killed.

    That failure led the entire Dutch government to resign. It brought expressions of remorse at the UN, but no firings.

    In the case of Congo, the accusations seem as bad as anything the UN has ever seen. Women and children have reportedly been raped, and there is said to be video and photographic evidence of crimes.

    Similar allegations have been directed at UN peacekeepers and officials in East Timor. And, in Cambodia and Kosovo, local officials and human rights group charge that the presence of UN forces has been linked to an increase in trafficking of women and a sharp rise in prostitution.

    In a new embarrassment, the UN confirmed yesterday that a UN auditor in the Congolese capital, Kinshasa, had been accused of hiring a prostitute. He comes from the agency that is investigating the latest claims, but isn?t taking part in the probe.

    The Web site for the Congo mission, known by its French acronym MONUC, reveals how bad the problem is but how little can be done. It includes a November 11 report that details the ?sensitisation training? given to 143 South African peacekeepers when they arrived in the city of Goma.

    ?A Power-Point presentation explains ? or reminds ? that the UN considers that any person who is less than 18 years old is a CHILD,? the report said, adding that sex with a minor is child abuse.

    ?No matter whether the child seems to agree to the sexual relation or if the age of the child is not clear enough at the moment of the sexual encounter.?

    The Congo allegations come at a particularly bad time for the UN and its Secretary-General Kofi Annan.

    UN officials have been accused of allowing corruption under Iraq?s oil-for-food program. The refugee chief was accused of sexual harassment and cleared by Annan, which angered UN staff. The UN?s top investigator allegedly recruited and promoted staff based on their ethnicity, but was also cleared by Annan.

    ?The last 18 months have been one of the worst years and a half for the UN of any similar period that I can remember,? said Jonathan Tepperman, senior editor at Foreign Affairs magazine. ?This is the last thing that Kofi needed.?

    In the face of another potential public relations disaster, UN officials have come out early and loud with a denunciation of the severe problems in Congo. They have announced a spate of new investigations and reportedly made the complaint process easier in countries where peacekeepers are posted.

    So-called ?personnel conduct officers? have been sent to the missions in Congo, Burundi, Ivory Coast and Haiti.

    Jane Holl Lute, Assistant Secretary-General for Peacekeeping Operations, warned that the UN may even ?generate new policies? to crack down on sex abuse, though she said it?s too early to say what those policies would be.

    The UN has also named Jordan?s Prince Zeid Al Hussein a special adviser on sexual exploitation with the hope that he can talk to governments and make sure they pursue claims against their soldiers.

    Officials hope Zeid?s background will give him the power he needs in an extremely difficult task. He is one of the few UN ambassadors with peacekeeping experience, from Bosnia in 1994 and 1995. In addition, Jordan is a major top troop suppliers.

    Lute said it?s possible sex abuses had got worse because there are far more peacekeeping missions than there once were. But right now, it must focus on prevention, with its ability to punish so limited.

    ?It?s obvious the measures that we have had in place have not been adequate to deal with the changing circumstances,? Lute said."



    Sad.


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  • Webby
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Oct 2002
    • 14956

    #2
    This is called a "UN scandal"??

    Who are the UN, but the international community - that means just that :-)

    I suppose you could say that only countries who sit on their asses and don't contribute troops to the UN are "innocent".

    Soldiers get up to all kinds of crap under certain conditions - tho little doubt they are in a minority. You just have to look at Iraq to see plenty...
    Last edited by Webby; 12-01-2004, 11:19 AM.
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    • broke
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2003
      • 4501

      #3
      So Webby --

      All US troops actions are made under the direct order of Bush and UN peace keeping troops make their own decisions with no direction from Kofi Annan?

      I thought the 'buck' stopped with the man in charge?
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      • - Jesus Christ -
        Confirmed User
        • Mar 2003
        • 7197

        #4
        Nah... its not fodder agasint bush or the US.

        Why would any of the self-righteous trolls care?

        Amen

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        • EviLSuperstaR
          Confirmed User
          • May 2004
          • 804

          #5
          What does this have to do with Europe? The UN is a global organisation with probably just as many Americans as Europeans...

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          • broke
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2003
            • 4501

            #6
            Originally posted by EviLSuperstaR
            What does this have to do with Europe? The UN is a global organisation with probably just as many Americans as Europeans...
            Ok.

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            • Sly
              Let's do some business!
              • Sep 2004
              • 31376

              #7
              Originally posted by Webby

              Soldiers get up to all kinds of crap under certain conditions - tho little doubt they are in a minority. You just have to look at Iraq to see plenty...
              I never expected something like this to come from you.
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              • perverted and proud
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                • Sep 2004
                • 124

                #8
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                • Ironhorse
                  Pixel Pusher
                  • Nov 2002
                  • 7094

                  #9
                  Originally posted by broke
                  So Webby --

                  All US troops actions are made under the direct order of Bush and UN peace keeping troops make their own decisions with no direction from Kofi Annan?

                  I thought the 'buck' stopped with the man in charge?
                  There are things soldiers do (and have always done) that are neither ecouraged nor condoned by their superiors. Come on, get a clue.
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                  • Fake Nick
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 7708

                    #10
                    it were no UN peacekeepers, it where local civilians HIRED by the UN .. big difference

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                    • - Jesus Christ -
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 7197

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ironhorse
                      There are things soldiers do (and have always done) that are neither ecouraged nor condoned by their superiors. Come on, get a clue.
                      Hes probably refering to prior comments Webby has made in other threads.

                      Amen

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                      • broke
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 4501

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ironhorse
                        There are things soldiers do (and have always done) that are neither ecouraged nor condoned by their superiors. Come on, get a clue.
                        Thanks.

                        I have a clue, but that doesn't stop Euro's from labasting the US President over 'things soldiers do (and have always done)' while ignoring everything else....
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                        • Fake Nick
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 7708

                          #13
                          Originally posted by broke
                          Thanks.

                          I have a clue, but that doesn't stop Euro's from labasting the US President over 'things soldiers do (and have always done)' while ignoring everything else....
                          you dont have a clue ,

                          there currently is an all out civil war in congo

                          the UN hired LOCAL CIVILIANS for some jobs , not military things those fuckin LOCAL CIVILIANS did those crimes ! has nothing to do with Europe or the soldiers of the UN
                          Last edited by Fake Nick; 12-01-2004, 12:47 PM.

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                          • who
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 19593

                            #14
                            Having sex with the local population is better than napalming and bombing them all like certain nations are well known for doing.

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                            • Project-Shadow
                              Confirmed User
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 7340

                              #15
                              No-one gives a toss about the U.N anyway, the U.S made the quite clear..

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                              • - Jesus Christ -
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 7197

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Project-Shadow
                                No-one gives a toss about the U.N anyway, the U.S made the quite clear..
                                Yea.... I guess that's why we consistently pump shitloads of money into it.

                                http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/rls/24236.htm


                                "The United States is the largest financial contributor to the UN and has been every year since its creation in 1945."

                                Amen

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                                • Tipsy
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 6989

                                  #17
                                  Another thread started by someone who is happy to shout as loudly as possible how ignorant they are on most world matters. It always amazes me how many people do that. Still - it's something to laugh or smile at on a boring day.
                                  Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                  • broke
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Aug 2003
                                    • 4501

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Tipsy
                                    Another thread started by someone who is happy to shout as loudly as possible how ignorant they are on most world matters. It always amazes me how many people do that. Still - it's something to laugh or smile at on a boring day.
                                    Shout?

                                    Ignorant?

                                    Laugh?
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                                    • sacX
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                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 2998

                                      #19
                                      It's unacceptable, just like it's unacceptable when the US commits war crimes.

                                      Why shouldn't we be enraged?
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